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Thread: Fixing Master Powers, the simple solution:
Blink ...
So simple ...
Yeah, why is that?
There is no such thing as 'rifle defense' or 'carbine defense.'
There is no 'glowstick defense mod.'
Good idea.
Kiti
Kitibacca wrote:
Blink ...
So simple ...
Yeah, why is that?
There is no such thing as 'rifle defense' or 'carbine defense.'
There is no 'glowstick defense mod.'
Good idea.
Kiti
We have cloak 
That is our "glowstick defense mod"
In all seriousness weNEED to remove the Force Defense AND give Powers an Armor break AND reduce our Action and Force costs by 50% AGAIN! Even then we'd prolly still get dusted my MLS w/ fair saber, 4040 LS dabblers w/Imp. Speed,or someone with Force Feedback but at least it would be somewhat REMOTELY competitive.
All those MLS guys that think Powers should not even be 1/10 of MLS, just shut up. I don't want to hear it. Maybe you can petition for the Master Powers box to cost 100 mil credits on top of 3.2 mil xp. That way, you can shut up about your damn Saber building costs (even I gave up on building a post cu based saber).
Those 3 things would make me happy and would make Powers 100% viable but I know if this was to happen that a collection plate would have to go around to everyone on the server. The collected money would go to an Entertainer in order to build the worlds smallest violin and I would personally play it for all the PO'dMLS users in Theed. "OMG... a fair fight?!?!, I'm out of here"..... "waaaaaaaah".Later on that week, Master Artisan"WAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE" sales skyroket.
It really isn't as simple as that. You have to consider a few things....mainly, enhancer and defender were MEANT to be a Jedi's defense against both Jedi and Non-Jedi. Removing force defenses would counter both enhancer's and defenders drastically, simply becauseforce wielder is really already the bane of an enhancer with force breach. Eliminating force defenses from defender would all but cripple Jedi against force wielders.
Some fixes that WOULD help, would be the following:
-Force "Defense" break would account for the same thing that is available to LS's. Armor break would NOT be useful, as our attacks should bypass armor altogether (see below).
-Allforce attacks should bypass armor like lightning and choke. Right now, both force defenses and armor are crippling our damage, and 95% of our other abilities are useless.
-Improve States to what they should actually do Post-Cu.
-Let us be ranged damage dealers!! This means self-rooting animations NEED to go.
There are probably more, but I gave up on this discipline. These simple fixes would help ALOT and balance quite a bit, but of course they are too oblivious to the matter to realize it.
Message Edited by EstoMax on 09-01-2005 04:57 PM
did you even read the post? thats exactly what i said lol
EstoMax wrote:
Actually, what about removing force defenses from defender, or at least seriously lessening it. That way it is enhancer for JvJ and defender for JvP. Every profession in Jedi is a trade off of another one, you can'talways have everything you want and thats how the devs made it. I'm suprised they didn't implement this in the first place???
Having both Defender and Enhancer as both haveing very nice "force" related defenses leaves powers at a standstill because most people will have one or both. It's almost unfairand not very logical for aMaster weilder to do almost no damage to somebody.
Message Edited by EstoMax on 09-01-2005 04:57 PM
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Yep, I made the same suggestion three months ago in the thread below. It was interesting to go back and look at the suggestions I made in that thread and see that several of them have since been incorporated into our discipline. Now if they would just get to work on the "Big Two" of Force Feedback and Force Defense.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=925189&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Buku
Naritus
Master powers is jedi ranged offense. If powers was to do as much damage as lightsaber then why bother with lightsaber at all if powers is ranged, requires no pearls or crafting? But as you look in the enhancer tree you see force shield and feedback which appear to be jedi abilities to counter jedi powers but defender also has the mod to defend against powers. From my perspective and I am sure I am wrong since very idea I have ever had about this game has never been liked this force defense mod in defender should be in enhancer. Enhancer counters powers and defender counters lightsaber would be a good system to me. As for a force defense mod being ingame at all is beyond me. Now if the defense mod in defender gave that same damage reduction to all damage taken from any attack now that would make defender truly awesome but that will never happen. But then why is it allowed to stop only powers damage? Just my two cents.
my 2 cents :
-Powers MUST get smth. like armor break
- Powers MUST get an "amylet", an "talisman" were pearls/ crustals can be putted in, to increace dmg output.
Hey sorry Melkor, I'm such a dork haha
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Being a master Powers for awhile now, I can see its flaws in Jedi vs. Jedi ( I am not talking about BH at all)
vs DEFENDER
Seriously though, not to dog on the defenders ( everyone is one these days) but defender just seems to much of a "I WIN" discipline...... Jedi should be skillful and there is not alot ofskill involved you just....don't take damage like other professions. Defender should be uber "like it is" against anything non force related. Currently I can throw Improved Lightning Strike and hit for 150points of damage on a masterdefender which is ridiculous. Now something that has little defense at all I can hit for almost 1900points of damage so tehre is a HUGE reduction in master defender. On the other side if I meet up with an enhancer then there is no way that my powers benefit me.
vs ENHANCER
My attacks dont hit hard from them using force sheild.
I give my opponent force from them using force absorb.
I get damage back to me from them using force feedback.
My only hope is force breach which is a joke now because it does not follow its description of removing ALL of the force enhancements at once, or even half of them for that matter. I could waste 25 seconds trying to undoJedi buffs which is pointless and rules this special to be almost worthless at the monent. There is not alot oflove for powers currently in this "balanced" system. Now I don't doubt that the FRS will change that "more for the dark side and less for us lighter folk". Until that comes we as powers users are generally screwed. Either we keep powers with saber and dont have any other options open to us making us have no defense and getting even more screwed, or we rely on powers and have not the dps needed to be effective. One cannot understand being a Powers user until you are one.
It would be like having only Brawler and Marksman as combat professions choicesin this game for non Jediand having Marksman be less effective then Brawler, wouldn't you have something to say about it???
Also it could be yet another tactic of SOE in trying to peo us off into quitting "less Jedi"
Dont worry most people that play this game are dorks, except for me of course
EstoMax wrote:
Hey sorry Melkor, I'm such a dork haha