Jedi Archive
Thread: The Problem has been solved!!...or didn't you know?
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pagoa
Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:54 am
#1
i am a master bh. that's it, no jedi alt. i have figured out the answer to all your problems regarding jedi that are too strong or bh's with doc/cm alts. the key is to LEARN YOUR DAA M TEMPLATE!!! that's it. the reason bh's pick a doc alt is because they need a master healing prof. they give up alot of offense and skills to gain healing, especially the masters.
the problem with many jedi and bh's is that they spend too much time on the forums crying about how they can't push a few buttons and win every fight, rather than spending that time training with their temp. and when i say training, here's what i mean.... if you are a jedi find some bh's and practice against them. work on managing your force and experement with different strategies. when i say strategies i don't mean combos...i mean strategies over a 30 min fight if that what it takes. examine the foods your opponents are using and time certain attacks at certain times in a fight. there are many different strategies. after every fight sit down, have a drink or a smoke and think about every aspect of the fight and why you lost. DO NOT GO TO THE FORUMS AND CRY!! afterwards go through every food and spice there is, write down the stats and pick the combo of foods that is going to give you the best regens for your template. AND PLEASE!!! if your not using foods in combat yet, you shouldnt even be thinking about whining on the forums yet.
the key to being succesful is to know your template inside out. you have to practice against the profs that give you the most trouble. you have to practice every situation you can, and know your surroundings before a fight.you have to tweek your templates to compliment your fighting style, you have to be able to react to all the situations you can find yourself in. and you have to realize that everyone gets ganked for time to time...it doesn't mean your template sucks, it just means you found yourself in a bad spot, but no worries.
jedi now have cloak which is untargetable, unbreakable, and at the master level they can regain force i believe faster than losing it. bh's have seekers, so when he cloaks, pull outthe seeker and rethink things. for jedi, you have a "get out of jail free" card at the master level with cloak, and for bh's, you have seekers to continually track the jedi when he comes out of cloak and then you start all over and fight him again....and i'l tell you this....it is possible after the fifth or sixth attack to frustrate the jedi into not cloaking again, but finishing the fight once and for all. there is no substitute for training and tenacity. 
pagoa crimia
RemoMoxey
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:04 am
#2
pagoa wrote:
i am a master bh. that's it, no jedi alt. i have figured out the answer to all your problems regarding jedi that are too strong or bh's with doc/cm alts. the key is to LEARN YOUR DAA M TEMPLATE!!! that's it. the reason bh's pick a doc alt is because they need a master healing prof. they give up alot of offense and skills to gain healing, especially the masters.
the problem with many jedi and bh's is that they spend too much time on the forums crying about how they can't push a few buttons and win every fight, rather than spending that time training with their temp. and when i say training, here's what i mean.... if you are a jedi find some bh's and practice against them. work on managing your force and experement with different strategies. when i say strategies i don't mean combos...i mean strategies over a 30 min fight if that what it takes. examine the foods your opponents are using and time certain attacks at certain times in a fight. there are many different strategies. after every fight sit down, have a drink or a smoke and think about every aspect of the fight and why you lost. DO NOT GO TO THE FORUMS AND CRY!! afterwards go through every food and spice there is, write down the stats and pick the combo of foods that is going to give you the best regens for your template. AND PLEASE!!! if your not using foods in combat yet, you shouldnt even be thinking about whining on the forums yet.
the key to being succesful is to know your template inside out. you have to practice against the profs that give you the most trouble. you have to practice every situation you can, and know your surroundings before a fight.you have to tweek your templates to compliment your fighting style, you have to be able to react to all the situations you can find yourself in. and you have to realize that everyone gets ganked for time to time...it doesn't mean your template sucks, it just means you found yourself in a bad spot, but no worries.
jedi now have cloak which is untargetable, unbreakable, and at the master level they can regain force i believe faster than losing it. bh's have seekers, so when he cloaks, pull outthe seeker and rethink things. for jedi, you have a "get out of jail free" card at the master level with cloak, and for bh's, you have seekers to continually track the jedi when he comes out of cloak and then you start all over and fight him again....and i'l tell you this....it is possible after the fifth or sixth attack to frustrate the jedi into not cloaking again, but finishing the fight once and for all. there is no substitute for training and tenacity.
pagoa crimia
dev quote-
"The CU will make battles faster, exciting, and more fun"
45 minute BH vs Jedi battles are mind numbing, SLOW, and down right asinine. That's the main problem. I hate seeing a BH come for me.....not because I might lose, but because that's an hour of my life I won't get back. Doc/CMs just make these fights even longer.
Satdaten
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:09 am
#3
RemoMoxey wrote:
pagoa wrote:
i am a master bh. that's it, no jedi alt. i have figured out the answer to all your problems regarding jedi that are too strong or bh's with doc/cm alts. the key is to LEARN YOUR DAA M TEMPLATE!!! that's it. the reason bh's pick a doc alt is because they need a master healing prof. they give up alot of offense and skills to gain healing, especially the masters.the problem with many jedi and bh's is that they spend too much time on the forums crying about how they can't push a few buttons and win every fight, rather than spending that time training with their temp. and when i say training, here's what i mean.... if you are a jedi find some bh's and practice against them. work on managing your force and experement with different strategies. when i say strategies i don't mean combos...i mean strategies over a 30 min fight if that what it takes. examine the foods your opponents are using and time certain attacks at certain times in a fight. there are many different strategies. after every fight sit down, have a drink or a smoke and think about every aspect of the fight and why you lost. DO NOT GO TO THE FORUMS AND CRY!! afterwards go through every food and spice there is, write down the stats and pick the combo of foods that is going to give you the best regens for your template. AND PLEASE!!! if your not using foods in combat yet, you shouldnt even be thinking about whining on the forums yet.the key to being succesful is to know your template inside out. you have to practice against the profs that give you the most trouble. you have to practice every situation you can, and know your surroundings before a fight. you have to tweek your templates to compliment your fighting style, you have to be able to react to all the situations you can find yourself in. and you have to realize that everyone gets ganked for time to time...it doesn't mean your template sucks, it just means you found yourself in a bad spot, but no worries.jedi now have cloak which is untargetable, unbreakable, and at the master level they can regain force i believe faster than losing it. bh's have seekers, so when he cloaks, pull outthe seeker and rethink things. for jedi, you have a "get out of jail free" card at the master level with cloak, and for bh's, you have seekers to continually track the jedi when he comes out of cloak and then you start all over and fight him again....and i'l tell you this....it is possible after the fifth or sixth attack to frustrate the jedi into not cloaking again, but finishing the fight once and for all. there is no substitute for training and tenacity.pagoa crimia
dev quote-"The CU will make battles faster, exciting, and more fun"45 minute BH vs Jedi battles are mind numbing, SLOW, and down right asinine. That's the main problem. I hate seeing a BH come for me.....not because I might lose, but because that's an hour of my life I won't get back. Doc/CMs just make these fights even longer.
qfe. these fights should be over one way or the other in a minute or less. the only time i have had a fight go that fast was a noob bh. and those are all but extinct. heck just friendly duels with other people these days go 30 min or more.
here is the main problem with the skillset system in MMORPG's is that everyone wants healing. it lets u live longer, and especially in SWG there is no downide to having it really, as you can get a master in a combat profession and be just as good. looking at guildwars, which has a somewhat template idea, about 80% of the pvp characters you see have healing as part of their template. there is NO DOWNSIDE TO HEALING. if we put one in it might get combat sped up. pearls also would help.
ITK5
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:14 am
#4
"there is NO DOWNSIDE TO HEALING"
Pagoa.
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QFE!
Exactly bro..exactly.
Pagoa.
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QFE!
Exactly bro..exactly.
Satdaten
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:20 am
#5
ITK5 wrote:
"there is NO DOWNSIDE TO HEALING"
Pagoa.
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QFE!
Exactly bro..exactly.
hey that was mine lol. give me soem credit.
and in hindsight there is a disatvantage in Guild wars cuz it takes up action that is slow to regen. here it regens faster than u can use it.
Botchie
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:35 am
#6
Simply because of my previous experiences with BHs (before terminal revamp and grieving was alot easier.) I do NOT like them,evenmore so thenBounty hunters don't like us, speacially whenthey come on here flaming our religion and making generally"unkind" remarks.but even though I do not agree with your tenacidity. I do agree with your statement. I am a MLS/ 4xxxHeal/4x42DEF/x4x3ENH and I have spent over a yr(14 months to be exact)from village to 1sp left, trainning and developing my template. using food to help regen rates and stats, tweaking skills, dropping them, regrinding new ones to compliment my fighting style, balancing my def in pve vs my off/healing in pvp. and right now I am very proud of how far I have come and absolutly ADORE my template. and since it's completion I have yet to lose a single BH encounter, not because it is the best template, which I'm sure might even be far from the truth. but because after the months and months of using and tweaking, I am more comfortable with it then ANY bh who grinds out their prof in 3days.
To all you younger jedi out their, you are a jedi, your religion is NOT popular with the state no matter what faction you follow, so be prepared to fight for your life.... train, practice practice practice! build your template towards balance, and get food to pick up the slack. btw ruby bliel+stim Ds = MUCH less force used. Guess thats it. ohhh! and say no to spice!! 
MajesticJester
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:42 am
#7
just get rid of all buffs
doc
food
drugs
there you go problem solved
jcecil
Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:19 pm
#8
The problem is, knowing your template inside and out isn't enough.
Now you also have to know what is broken in the game and what is not. And in this game, it changes on a daily basis.
Learning my template is fun, having to fight against my own template because it's broken (and NOT "working as intended") is not fun.
Now you also have to know what is broken in the game and what is not. And in this game, it changes on a daily basis.
Learning my template is fun, having to fight against my own template because it's broken (and NOT "working as intended") is not fun.
MikeHeXt
Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:19 pm
#9
I have learned my template well. I am undefeated by BH's. Give me my saber damge to what it should be, and I shall be unstoppable.
sanct_squadleader
Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:01 am
#10
MajesticJester wrote:
just get rid of all buffs
doc
food
drugs
there you go problem solved
nah just get rid of ruby bliel
Angamarth
Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:05 am
#12
pagoa wrote:
i am a master bh. that's it, no jedi alt. i have figured out the answer to all your problems regarding jedi that are too strong or bh's with doc/cm alts. the key is to LEARN YOUR DAA M TEMPLATE!!! that's it. the reason bh's pick a doc alt is because they need a master healing prof. they give up alot of offense and skills to gain healing, especially the masters.
the problem with many jedi and bh's is that they spend too much time on the forums crying about how they can't push a few buttons and win every fight, rather than spending that time training with their temp. and when i say training, here's what i mean.... if you are a jedi find some bh's and practice against them. work on managing your force and experement with different strategies. when i say strategies i don't mean combos...i mean strategies over a 30 min fight if that what it takes. examine the foods your opponents are using and time certain attacks at certain times in a fight. there are many different strategies. after every fight sit down, have a drink or a smoke and think about every aspect of the fight and why you lost. DO NOT GO TO THE FORUMS AND CRY!! afterwards go through every food and spice there is, write down the stats and pick the combo of foods that is going to give you the best regens for your template. AND PLEASE!!! if your not using foods in combat yet, you shouldnt even be thinking about whining on the forums yet.
the key to being succesful is to know your template inside out. you have to practice against the profs that give you the most trouble. you have to practice every situation you can, and know your surroundings before a fight.you have to tweek your templates to compliment your fighting style, you have to be able to react to all the situations you can find yourself in. and you have to realize that everyone gets ganked for time to time...it doesn't mean your template sucks, it just means you found yourself in a bad spot, but no worries.
jedi now have cloak which is untargetable, unbreakable, and at the master level they can regain force i believe faster than losing it. bh's have seekers, so when he cloaks, pull outthe seeker and rethink things. for jedi, you have a "get out of jail free" card at the master level with cloak, and for bh's, you have seekers to continually track the jedi when he comes out of cloak and then you start all over and fight him again....and i'l tell you this....it is possible after the fifth or sixth attack to frustrate the jedi into not cloaking again, but finishing the fight once and for all. there is no substitute for training and tenacity.
pagoa crimia
Excuse me, but only specific templates have that. That would be like me saying, "all ranged professions get concussion shot." You only get concussion shot if you take smuggler, you only get cloak if you take powers. Just thought I'd point that out.
Botchie
Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:05 am
#13
seriously tho, I have noticed that once people start talking about stuff like that, your kinda speaking the devils name, even if your joking please stop advocating a change that would only make less sense >.< not to mention hurt us. /Sarcasim on
Goodbye Cooks, Goodbye underworld tree. Goodbye percentage of revenue for SOE, and god forbid! They definitly do not deserve it! /Sarcasim off
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