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SeraphDauthi wrote:
What the he!! is a rebel "Veteran Sith Hunter"???
I saw an NPC with this tag on in Keren.
Isnt it true that there can only be 2 Sith? So I am thinking that this verteran wasnt very successful considering that both Darth and Palpy are alive and well. =P
Any thoughts?
lol no idea.. i never got that
SeraphDauthi wrote:What the he!! is a rebel "Veteran Sith Hunter"???I saw an NPC with this tag on in Keren.Isnt it true that there can only be 2 Sith? So I am thinking that this verteran wasnt very successful considering that both Darth and Palpy are alive and well. =PAny thoughts?
Been wondering about that myself....
SeraphDauthi wrote:
Isnt it true that there can only be 2 Sith?
No.
the "rule of two" was not an absoloute, and like all rules, was frequently broken, consider the following:
The Prophets of the Dark Side were not founded by Palpatine himself; instead, he took a Sith cult isolated on a remote world and a wayward Jedi with a gift for prophecy and the dark side, and combined them to create an order in his service. The Prophets themselves were a small Sith splinter group, like the much older Sorcerors of Tund, founded by Darth Millennial, a Sith apprentice who lived some time after the Battle of Ruusan. Darth Millennial disagreed with Darth Bane's philosophy of the "Rule of Two", where the Sith would have only one master and one apprentice at a time. Instead, he preferred the ideals of Lord Kaan, who espoused a "Rule by the Strong" model where a number of weaker Sith would fight amongst themselves for supremacy. Millennial fled from his Master to create this "ideal" order, while the true Sith Order continued under the rule of Millennial's former Master and his new apprentice.
Darth Millennial eventually settled on the distant world of Dromund Kaas, a world that, like Korriban and Malachor V, was located within the boundaries of the original Sith Empire. The world was covered in bogs and swamps, and was filled with hostile native life transplanted there from other worlds, including Dianogas, a swamp-adapted version of Wampa, and Vornskyr. On this hostile and foreboding world, he established his own derivative of the Sith religion, which came to be known as the "Dark Force." On this isolated planet, this cult survived for almost 1000 years, diverging from traditional Sith teachings and plumbing the depths of the dark side in many ways. Rumors and isolated reports of a world with a surviving Sith cult slowly filtered out over the centuries, but were never substantiated.
During his tenure as Supreme Chancellor, before becoming Emperor, Palpatine rediscovered this world as the Clone Wars led to expansion into many parts of the galaxy that were lost or forgotten. Never one to discard a potentially valuable resource, this cult was quickly turned to the service of a true Sith Lord and all references to the system were deleted from official records by the Sith Lord Count Dooku. The Dark Force cult became Palpatine's Prophets of the Dark Side, and he instituted as the Prophets' new leader the Dark Jedi Kadann. Palpatine gave the Prophets of the Dark Side what they craved most: power. They had a chance to be more than an isolated cult on a forgotten world; they could work behind the scenes on the galactic stage, ensuring more power for themselves (and their Master). Dromund Kaas went from being the home of the Dark Force cult to being the training world of the Prophets of the Dark Side.
The Emperor's Secret Order of Prophets of the Dark Side was a hierarchical organization composed of eight ranks. They are listed here in ascending order.
First Initiate
Second Circle
Third Circle
Fourth Circle
Inner Circle
Emperor's Hand
(NOTE: This rank is a completely separate and distinct position from the title of Emperor's Hand which belonged to such Imperial agents as Mara Jade.)
Emperor's Eyes
Emperor's Voice
Emperor's Reach
Example: Maarek Stele
Lesser Prophet
Examples: Argor, Lord Cronal (AKA "Blackhole"), Gornash, Merilli, Sariss
High Prophet
Example: Jedgar
Supreme Prophet
Examples: Darth Millennial, Kadann
The Emperor's Other Servants
The Prophets of the Dark Side were the largest and central body of the Emperor's Force-using servants, but not everyone who called Palpatine "Master" was a member of their order (although, the story of Maarek Stele seems to indicate that it was from the Prophets that these other bodies were sometimes recruited from). Besides his own personal apprentice in the ways of the Sith, Darth Vader, the Emperor also had the Inquisitorius, a secret arm of Imperial Intelligence that was composed of Dark Jedi who pledged their service to him in exchange for their own lives, as they helped him hunt down and turn or destroy the remaining Jedi in the galaxy. He also had his "Emperor's Hands," those servants who acted as his eyes and ears throughout the Empire, reporting only to him, with no formal title or rank, their very existence as servants known only to a handful of his closest confidants, such as Grand Admiral Thrawn. Lastly, he even had the Imperial Royal Guard who were recruited from the Stormtrooper Corps because of their strength, size, intelligence, and Force-sensitivity. After Palpatine's resurrection, his primary Force-wielding minions were the Imperial Sentinels, the Imperial Royal Guard, a variety of Dark Side Adepts, and a cadre of seven Dark Jedi who were little more than extensions of the Emperor's will, and were called the "Dark Side Elite."
Since early in his reign, Palpatine had a dream of establishing a galactic government without a need for a vast fleet, and without a need for superweapons. His ideal was to create a government of the dark side, where citizens obeyed because they were controlled to obey by the Force, and where all those strong in the Force served him through the dark side. He slowly worked on a prototype of this model at the planet Byss in the Deep Core over a course of many years, with many of his Dark Side Adepts, Force-sensitives who used the Prophets' homeworld of Dromund Kaas. Gwellib Ap-Llewff and Savuud Thimram were two of his Dark Side Adepts who resided on Byss helping his plan come to fruition. Under this plan, the Skywalker bloodline would be the new nobilitiy, while the Dark Side Adepts would be courtiers and minor nobles, helping their immortal Emperor rule the galaxy. After the Emperor's death, many of the adepts fled to Byss, to seek refuge from the civil wars tearing the Empire apart.
The Dark Side Adepts on Byss also were responsible for many of Palpatine's more "routine" work in the dark side. Trained alchemists using ancient Sith techniques prepared strange poisons and serums for the use of Imperial Intelligence and even Darth Vader himself, and followed their master's instructions to create the Imperial Sentinels, giant mute warriors who acted as imposing guards throughout Byss.
Betrayal has always been a hallmark of the dark side. Palpatine's first death at the hands of Darth Vader was followed by another death from his own ranks. Two of his Dark Side Adepts had betrayed him while he was recuperating from another death aboard the Super Star Destroyer Eclipse. A conspiracy within the Dark Side Adepts led to the sabotage of Palpatine's cloning facilities, greatly limiting his ability to be reborn after death. This forced Palpatine to seek out a new host body, and the unborn child of Han and Leia Solo, Anakin, was his intended target. This placed him once again in direct confrontation with Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa Solo in a final battle he would not survive. As he died, Byss died with him as the Galaxy Gun superweapon misfired and its awesome firepower engulfed the dark world.
When Byss was destroyed by the Galaxy Gun superweapon, all the Dark Side Adepts on the planet were instantly killed. This devastated their numbers, as most of their members were on the world at that time.
Most of the Prophets of the Dark Side who had gone into hiding after the Battle of Endor retreated to their training world of Dromun Kaas, although they fared no better. Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade encountered the planet at roughly the time of the Emperor's rebirth, and destroyed the enclave of the Prophets of the Dark Side on that world as well. With Byss utterly annihilated and their training grounds purged, no members of the Prophets of the Dark Side are known to have escaped the events of the year 10 ABY. If any did, they have not made themselves known to the galaxy at large.
Message Edited by Quiet420 on 09-01-2005 11:25 PM
I'm getting use to it though.
The minute I see a freaking smurf though ...............
Quiet420 wrote:
SeraphDauthi wrote:Isnt it true that there can only be 2 Sith?
No.
the "rule of two" was not an absoloute, and like all rules, was frequently broken, consider the following:
The Prophets of the Dark Side were not founded by Palpatine himself; instead, he took a Sith cult isolated on a remote world and a wayward Jedi with a gift for prophecy and the dark side, and combined them to create an order in his service. The Prophets themselves were a small Sith splinter group, like the much older Sorcerors of Tund, founded by Darth Millennial, a Sith apprentice who lived some time after the Battle of Ruusan. Darth Millennial disagreed with Darth Bane's philosophy of the "Rule of Two", where the Sith would have only one master and one apprentice at a time. Instead, he preferred the ideals of Lord Kaan, who espoused a "Rule by the Strong" model where a number of weaker Sith would fight amongst themselves for supremacy. Millennial fled from his Master to create this "ideal" order, while the true Sith Order continued under the rule of Millennial's former Master and his new apprentice.
Darth Millennial eventually settled on the distant world of Dromund Kaas, a world that, like Korriban and Malachor V, was located within the boundaries of the original Sith Empire. The world was covered in bogs and swamps, and was filled with hostile native life transplanted there from other worlds, including Dianogas, a swamp-adapted version of Wampa, and Vornskyr. On this hostile and foreboding world, he established his own derivative of the Sith religion, which came to be known as the "Dark Force." On this isolated planet, this cult survived for almost 1000 years, diverging from traditional Sith teachings and plumbing the depths of the dark side in many ways. Rumors and isolated reports of a world with a surviving Sith cult slowly filtered out over the centuries, but were never substantiated.
During his tenure as Supreme Chancellor, before becoming Emperor, Palpatine rediscovered this world as the Clone Wars led to expansion into many parts of the galaxy that were lost or forgotten. Never one to discard a potentially valuable resource, this cult was quickly turned to the service of a true Sith Lord and all references to the system were deleted from official records by the Sith Lord Count Dooku. The Dark Force cult became Palpatine's Prophets of the Dark Side, and he instituted as the Prophets' new leader the Dark Jedi Kadann. Palpatine gave the Prophets of the Dark Side what they craved most: power. They had a chance to be more than an isolated cult on a forgotten world; they could work behind the scenes on the galactic stage, ensuring more power for themselves (and their Master). Dromund Kaas went from being the home of the Dark Force cult to being the training world of the Prophets of the Dark Side.
The Emperor's Secret Order of Prophets of the Dark Side was a hierarchical organization composed of eight ranks. They are listed here in ascending order.
First Initiate
Second Circle
Third Circle
Fourth Circle
Inner Circle
Emperor's Hand
(NOTE: This rank is a completely separate and distinct position from the title of Emperor's Hand which belonged to such Imperial agents as Mara Jade.)
Emperor's Eyes
Emperor's Voice
Emperor's Reach
Example: Maarek Stele
Lesser Prophet
Examples: Argor, Lord Cronal (AKA "Blackhole"), Gornash, Merilli, Sariss
High Prophet
Example: Jedgar
Supreme Prophet
Examples: Darth Millennial, Kadann
The Emperor's Other Servants
The Prophets of the Dark Side were the largest and central body of the Emperor's Force-using servants, but not everyone who called Palpatine "Master" was a member of their order (although, the story of Maarek Stele seems to indicate that it was from the Prophets that these other bodies were sometimes recruited from). Besides his own personal apprentice in the ways of the Sith, Darth Vader, the Emperor also had the Inquisitorius, a secret arm of Imperial Intelligence that was composed of Dark Jedi who pledged their service to him in exchange for their own lives, as they helped him hunt down and turn or destroy the remaining Jedi in the galaxy. He also had his "Emperor's Hands," those servants who acted as his eyes and ears throughout the Empire, reporting only to him, with no formal title or rank, their very existence as servants known only to a handful of his closest confidants, such as Grand Admiral Thrawn. Lastly, he even had the Imperial Royal Guard who were recruited from the Stormtrooper Corps because of their strength, size, intelligence, and Force-sensitivity. After Palpatine's resurrection, his primary Force-wielding minions were the Imperial Sentinels, the Imperial Royal Guard, a variety of Dark Side Adepts, and a cadre of seven Dark Jedi who were little more than extensions of the Emperor's will, and were called the "Dark Side Elite."
Since early in his reign, Palpatine had a dream of establishing a galactic government without a need for a vast fleet, and without a need for superweapons. His ideal was to create a government of the dark side, where citizens obeyed because they were controlled to obey by the Force, and where all those strong in the Force served him through the dark side. He slowly worked on a prototype of this model at the planet Byss in the Deep Core over a course of many years, with many of his Dark Side Adepts, Force-sensitives who used the Prophets' homeworld of Dromund Kaas. Gwellib Ap-Llewff and Savuud Thimram were two of his Dark Side Adepts who resided on Byss helping his plan come to fruition. Under this plan, the Skywalker bloodline would be the new nobilitiy, while the Dark Side Adepts would be courtiers and minor nobles, helping their immortal Emperor rule the galaxy. After the Emperor's death, many of the adepts fled to Byss, to seek refuge from the civil wars tearing the Empire apart.
The Dark Side Adepts on Byss also were responsible for many of Palpatine's more "routine" work in the dark side. Trained alchemists using ancient Sith techniques prepared strange poisons and serums for the use of Imperial Intelligence and even Darth Vader himself, and followed their master's instructions to create the Imperial Sentinels, giant mute warriors who acted as imposing guards throughout Byss.
Betrayal has always been a hallmark of the dark side. Palpatine's first death at the hands of Darth Vader was followed by another death from his own ranks. Two of his Dark Side Adepts had betrayed him while he was recuperating from another death aboard the Super Star Destroyer Eclipse. A conspiracy within the Dark Side Adepts led to the sabotage of Palpatine's cloning facilities, greatly limiting his ability to be reborn after death. This forced Palpatine to seek out a new host body, and the unborn child of Han and Leia Solo, Anakin, was his intended target. This placed him once again in direct confrontation with Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa Solo in a final battle he would not survive. As he died, Byss died with him as the Galaxy Gun superweapon misfired and its awesome firepower engulfed the dark world.
When Byss was destroyed by the Galaxy Gun superweapon, all the Dark Side Adepts on the planet were instantly killed. This devastated their numbers, as most of their members were on the world at that time.
Most of the Prophets of the Dark Side who had gone into hiding after the Battle of Endor retreated to their training world of Dromun Kaas, although they fared no better. Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade encountered the planet at roughly the time of the Emperor's rebirth, and destroyed the enclave of the Prophets of the Dark Side on that world as well. With Byss utterly annihilated and their training grounds purged, no members of the Prophets of the Dark Side are known to have escaped the events of the year 10 ABY. If any did, they have not made themselves known to the galaxy at large.Message Edited by Quiet420 on 09-01-2005 11:25 PM
Cool bro, where did you get this?
I agree except one thing, just like a Dark Jedi who finds and studies a "Sith Holocron" and gleams some Sith teachings, the Prophets of the Dark Side were wannabe Sith, better than say Mellache, but not close to the level of the two remaining. Although they continued Dark Side studies they eventually diverged so much from Sith teachings they became simply Dark Siders IMO.
Only Palpy and Vader were the reamaining true disciples of the Sith being trained and versed in all Sith knowledge and having and especially on part of Palpy who had an all encompassing knowledge. And thus being of Darth Bane's lineage is the only of the Sith.