Jedi Archive
Thread: Saber block should be higher against 1v1, reduced against multiple opponents.
85% pre-CURB meant I was unkillable to Ranged unless they had somekind of exceptional rifle. I will be the first to admit, with devs saying Padawans are not supposed to be all powerful.....block needed to be nerfed.
The only way the devs are going to introduce high block like 80% again will be with very high ranking Jedi. IMO if Jedi are truely supposed to be balanced to other professions block did need to be reduced to 25 (I even think less as +25 from xxx4 Defender is really goodwhen combined with +25 from MLS as NO other profession in the game can make a profession completely miss 50% of the time reguardless of Accuracy/Defenses).
The boat has sailed and is not coming back. What we should be asking for is some kind of reflect skill, that was something Jedi were actually known for in the movies and IMO wouldn't create balance issues (as long as it's a small percent chance, kind of like Critical shot). It can be a MLS skill that needs to be activated like Aura.
In my opinion Valor should be in the LS tree anyway, not defender
I can see why its in defender, its a 'defence' after all, but i really think that saber block is a skill for Lightsabers, lightsaber skills should be in MLS not defender. MDEF should grant skills that are of use to any template, as it is valor is only of use if you combine LS with DEF, most do yes, but there are some powers/def combos too, giving them a skill like this is pointless IMO.
Moving valor to LS xxx4 or MLS would not be unbalancing because of the offensive reduction it causes and would open a place in DEF for a more general defence skill.
My pre-conceptions about where valor should be located aside, I am of the opinion that the percentage chance to block should be increased. This is mainly because of the offensive reduction it causes. Unlike the old system where you could block 80% of incoming ranged attacks and still maintain full offensive power the introduction of valor means that you need to sacrifice your offence for greater defence. 80% block and 60-70% damage reduction seems fair IMO.
I also like the idea of reduced effectiveness vs more attackers, very 'star warsy'
Sorry for my slightly off topic start 
eternalfool wrote:
In my opinion Valor should be in the LS tree anyway, not defender
Moving valor to LS xxx4 or MLS would not be unbalancing because of the offensive reduction it causes and would open a place in DEF for a more general defence skill.
My pre-conceptions about where valor should be located aside, I am of the opinion that the percentage chance to block should be increased. This is mainly because of the offensive reduction it causes. Unlike the old system where you could block 80% of incoming ranged attacks and still maintain full offensive power the introduction of valor means that you need to sacrifice your offence for greater defence. 80% block and 60-70% damage reduction seems fair IMO.
I also like the idea of reduced effectiveness vs more attackers, very 'star warsy'
Sorry for my slightly off topic start
i wouldn't really think moving valor - lightsaber would be a good move its effectively giving m saber 50 block for free, in defence if you want more block you take that skill, just my opinion
Gohma_Manovich wrote:
eternalfool wrote:
In my opinion Valor should be in the LS tree anyway, not defender I can see why its in defender, its a 'defence' after all, but i really think that saber block is a skill for Lightsabers, lightsaber skills should be in MLS not defender. MDEF should grant skills that are of use to any template, as it is valor is only of use if you combine LS with DEF, most do yes, but there are some powers/def combos too, giving them a skill like this is pointless IMO.
Moving valor to LS xxx4 or MLS would not be unbalancing because of the offensive reduction it causes and would open a place in DEF for a more general defence skill.
My pre-conceptions about where valor should be located aside, I am of the opinion that the percentage chance to block should be increased. This is mainly because of the offensive reduction it causes. Unlike the old system where you could block 80% of incoming ranged attacks and still maintain full offensive power the introduction of valor means that you need to sacrifice your offence for greater defence. 80% block and 60-70% damage reduction seems fair IMO.
I also like the idea of reduced effectiveness vs more attackers, very 'star warsy'
Sorry for my slightly off topic start
i wouldn't really think moving valor - lightsaber would be a good move its effectively giving m saber 50 block for free, in defence if you want more block you take that skill, just my opinion
Its effectively giving MLS 50 saber block, not for free but for 60-70% offensive output reduction.
Uhm.... I think that this just went way up up up and over alot of people's heads. Judging by the responses so far.