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Thread: Hard Work vs. Communism

SurgeLestat
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:47 pm
#1


Now that Jedi is just going to as easy to get as all the other there won't be a great sense of acomplishment when completing a Jedi. With that in place new players will find themselves becoming bored of the game in a short period of time. SOE is most likely going to find this bite them in the back. Not only will they be losing new players fast, they have also angered vet Jedi of the game.


With the system as it is right now you have to work hard to get that Jedi of yours done. When you have to work hard for your Jedi you will want to stick around much longer knowing you put hard work into this game.

Message Edited by SurgeLestat on 11-03-2005 11:21 PM



Novas Eked - Elder Jedi
Dravoth Eked - Master Bounty Hunter - <IMP>
Fish-Stick - Crafter
Most Prized Possessions: Full Mandalorian Set,
Black Sun Pilot Helmet, Jetpack, Hologram Collection, and Lava Saber.
-I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Killez
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:50 pm
#2



SurgeLestat wrote:
Now that Jedi is just going to as easy to get as all the other there won't be a great sense of acomplishment when completing a Jedi. With that in place new players will find themselves becoming bored of the game in a short period of time. SOE is most likely going to find this bite them in the back. Not only will they be losing new player fast, they have also angered vet Jedi of the game.
With the system as it is right now you have to work hard to get that Jedi of yours done. When you have to work hard for your Jedi you will want to stick around much longer knowing you put hard work into this game.



work will still be required for jedi

this is the way i see it

you start off as force sensitive once you start you will not automaticly be a jedi you will still have to work to get to jedi

it won't be get force sensitive and bam your jedi, even force sensitives must learn the ways of the force before they are Jedi

ie younglings are force sensitive and start on the path to becoming padawan thru training and hard work



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Even though you are competent,appear to be incompetent,
Though effective, appear to be ineffective.-Sun Tzu

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SurgeLestat
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:54 pm
#3


Yeah they will make the path to Jedi a little hard with some quests.


But what about the million people that are going to respec to Jedi?



Novas Eked - Elder Jedi
Dravoth Eked - Master Bounty Hunter - <IMP>
Fish-Stick - Crafter
Most Prized Possessions: Full Mandalorian Set,
Black Sun Pilot Helmet, Jetpack, Hologram Collection, and Lava Saber.
-I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Killez
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:56 pm
#4



SurgeLestat wrote:
Yeah they will make the path to Jedi a little hard with some quests.
But what about the million people that are going to respec to Jedi?



yeah i know man that really urks me

i feel that only people with padawan or higher (Knight titles etc) should be allowed to get jedi off the bat the others should be required to follow the new path to Jedi



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Killez/Dark Jedi Elder/ONE Empire/Valcyn
Eske Ivip/Master ShipWright/Master Architect/ONE Empire/Valcyn
Deadly'One/Elder Bounty Hunter/Chaos/Tempest
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A miliatry operation involves deception.
Even though you are competent,appear to be incompetent,
Though effective, appear to be ineffective.-Sun Tzu

(gggggggggggggggg]WXgg[w]g]]]g


SurgeLestat
Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:58 pm
#5


I just hope the make some last minute changes to the Jedi respec thing



Novas Eked - Elder Jedi
Dravoth Eked - Master Bounty Hunter - <IMP>
Fish-Stick - Crafter
Most Prized Possessions: Full Mandalorian Set,
Black Sun Pilot Helmet, Jetpack, Hologram Collection, and Lava Saber.
-I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
EmporersFist
Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:01 am
#6






Killez wrote:





SurgeLestat wrote:

Now that Jedi is just going to as easy to get as all the other there won't be a great sense of acomplishment when completing a Jedi. With that in place new players will find themselves becoming bored of the game in a short period of time. SOE is most likely going to find this bite them in the back. Not only will they be losing new player fast, they have also angered vet Jedi of the game.


With the system as it is right now you have to work hard to get that Jedi of yours done. When you have to work hard for your Jedi you will want to stick around much longer knowing you put hard work into this game.





work will still be required for jedi

this is the way i see it

you start off as force sensitive once you start you will not automaticly be a jedi you will still have to work to get to jedi

it won't be get force sensitive and bam your jedi, even force sensitives must learn the ways of the force before they are Jedi

ie younglings are force sensitive and start on the path to becoming padawan thru training and hard work



Jedi is a STARTING CLASS. They are no longer an alpha class. If they do not start with at least a training saber in their hands it will not be long before they get one. The work will be no harder than any other class since Jedi will be no stronger.

Killez
Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:20 am
#7

we will see what is what later on today

i still mantian that Force Sensitive is the starting profession and you will have to complete quest to progess on the jedi path

in star wars you must be Force Sensitive to progess to jedi, but will agree that Force Sensitive/Jedi will be a starting profession you will not start out with a lightsaber

as every class can use melee ranged weapons

Message Edited by Killez on 11-03-2005 11:26 PM



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Killez/Dark Jedi Elder/ONE Empire/Valcyn
Eske Ivip/Master ShipWright/Master Architect/ONE Empire/Valcyn
Deadly'One/Elder Bounty Hunter/Chaos/Tempest
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A miliatry operation involves deception.
Even though you are competent,appear to be incompetent,
Though effective, appear to be ineffective.-Sun Tzu

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syykodisco
Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:31 am
#8

Jedi hard work? What do you consider hard work? I sat on my butt for nearly 2 years to get my jedi and finish the template.


Long and agravating grind? Heck yeah. With all the additional xp required, missing out on hunting with friends, the constant harassment from other players (bounty hunters).. defenately!


Not getting as much as we feel we should get for being faithfull customers and spending all the extra time on our butts behind a computer... Most every Jedi feels this way.


Pre-Cu.. needed a drastic change in Ballance, not a complete combat revamp and cheezy graphics.


Bugs... not fixed


Combat Upgrade.. most didn't like it... countless accounts counceled.


Bugs... not fixed


New "game features".. gonna try it and hopefully like it. This is pretty much the last chance SOE/SWG has with a large ammount of the veterans that love star wars and have stuck it out this long.. but could be great for new players.



The choice is up to each player if they want to pay to play this game, I for one (for some reason) still love this game and am willing to see if this is better then the CU I hated. But once again, Jedi hard work? I would love to see peoples idea of hard work.. my idea is out digging ditches, building houses, serving your country.. law enforcement.... something that is physically or mentally hard, not a game ment for entertainment.





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cydonia
Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:34 am
#9

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SurgeLestat
Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:41 am
#10



Does it not take your mind and consentration to play this game. Takes more brain power to play this game then to work at McDonalds don't you agree? You know that they are dumbing this game down for the people that find this game too complex...


Work (noun)- Physical or mental effort or activity directed toward the production or accomplishment of something (i.e sitting for 2 years working towards jedi). Meaning anything.

Message Edited by SurgeLestat on 11-03-2005 11:55 PM



Novas Eked - Elder Jedi
Dravoth Eked - Master Bounty Hunter - <IMP>
Fish-Stick - Crafter
Most Prized Possessions: Full Mandalorian Set,
Black Sun Pilot Helmet, Jetpack, Hologram Collection, and Lava Saber.
-I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
CYEN
Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:06 pm
#11

I feel for you guys. I was a MBH/MCH in the game. I also started playing on day 2.I was doing a slow grind I wanted one day to be Jedi. I only had 2 boxes opened up. But now that these changes are going to happen I'll likely respec to CL80 jedi I may play till I'm 90 but I can see that I'll get bored of the game. You guys killed alot of critters and really stuck with what has got to be the most boring part of the game period. Just to get your glowy shiney stick. Now after all that time someone like me can come along and just respec to what you guys worked so long for. I bet Jedi just got real cheap on E-bay.



Vigo Carpath
MBH/MCH
Corbantis
Veteran since day 2
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