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Thread: I have equipped my flame resistant suit, so I am ready to pose another idea.

Mclearin
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:32 am
#1

If memory serves me correctly, a pearl can be tuned to 120 max dam, and -9 fc, at full potential, or "perfect". As I understand it, a crystal has 110 max damage potential, and -9 fc.


This makes our sabers, if they are perfect with pearls, and a normal color crystal 600 plus the base damage of the saber, or about 750.


What woudl be wrong with raising the potential max damage to 250 for pearls or 230 for crystals, there by making a perfect saber 1250 plus base damage of the saber, close to 1400. Mind you this is on a perfectly experimented saber with perfectly tuned pearls. Thus the average population would probably have closer to a 800 damage saber.


This would bring our sabers more inline with other wepons. I have on one of my tons an ALR that is unsliced and does 1169 max damage, at a fair speed. So a 1400 saber woudl not be out of line considering powerups and slices on other's wepons.


The way I see it, this would not be to terribly over powered (even though I think sabrs SHOULD be terribly over powered), making the saber a viable wepon in the hands of an experianced wielder, who has worked his way up what ever line he likes, one handed, two handed or double bladed.


I have read rumors that they are going to take away our ability to use force type skills while having a wepon other than a saber equipped. It is my understanding that Jedi innate armor does not apply when holding a wepon other than a saber, so running around with a sliced p'uped ALR just won't make up for the damage differential that now exists.


As of now, this is the only thing that truly irks me about Jedi, is the lack of damage potential. it just doesn't compare to other elite professions. I can not speak for the powers line, as I have not tried it, although I woudl assume that if it were more powerful, the favored template would have it instead of LS.


Any way, it is a mere suggestion, subject (unfortunately) to the flames of others.


Thaks for reading.



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acmtalk
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:39 am
#2

No, that would be too umbalanced.. Keep in mind that LS have the Highest elemental dmg, + a very Nice min dmg...



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Mclearin
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:48 am
#3






acmtalk wrote:
No, that would be too umbalanced.. Keep in mind that LS have the Highest elemental dmg, + a very Nice min dmg...






Care to elaborate?


I would like to understand why it woudl be too unbalanced, if you please.



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Jacella
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:50 am
#4

How about raising the base damage by 250 points instead...sounds like that would be more fair.





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kreindhild
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:51 am
#5






Mclearin wrote:

If memory serves me correctly, a pearl can be tuned to 120 max dam, and -9 fc, at full potential, or "perfect". As I understand it, a crystal has 110 max damage potential, and -9 fc.


This makes our sabers, if they are perfect with pearls, and a normal color crystal 600 plus the base damage of the saber, or about 750.


What woudl be wrong with raising the potential max damage to 250 for pearls or 230 for crystals, there by making a perfect saber 1250 plus base damage of the saber, close to 1400. Mind you this is on a perfectly experimented saber with perfectly tuned pearls. Thus the average population would probably have closer to a 800 damage saber.


This would bring our sabers more inline with other wepons. I have on one of my tons an ALR that is unsliced and does 1169 max damage, at a fair speed. So a 1400 saber woudl not be out of line considering powerups and slices on other's wepons.


The way I see it, this would not be to terribly over powered (even though I think sabrs SHOULD be terribly over powered), making the saber a viable wepon in the hands of an experianced wielder, who has worked his way up what ever line he likes, one handed, two handed or double bladed.


I have read rumors that they are going to take away our ability to use force type skills while having a wepon other than a saber equipped. It is my understanding that Jedi innate armor does not apply when holding a wepon other than a saber, so running around with a sliced p'uped ALR just won't make up for the damage differential that now exists.


As of now, this is the only thing that truly irks me about Jedi, is the lack of damage potential. it just doesn't compare to other elite professions. I can not speak for the powers line, as I have not tried it, although I woudl assume that if it were more powerful, the favored template would have it instead of LS.


Any way, it is a mere suggestion, subject (unfortunately) to the flames of others.


Thaks for reading.




just another person who realized after he got jedi that they weren't as powerful as he thought when he was yelling nerf on jedi from his BH toon probly... that's about the only ones who whine anymore.






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acmtalk
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:52 am
#6






Mclearin wrote:





acmtalk wrote:
No, that would be too umbalanced.. Keep in mind that LS have the Highest elemental dmg, + a very Nice min dmg...






Care to elaborate?


I would like to understand why it woudl be too unbalanced, if you please.





A good Lightsaber is well balanced now.. It it can do alot of damage... We are not suppost to riflemen, Jedi's speed+dmg is balanced the way I see.. + all the cool tricks that We can have.



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kreindhild
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:53 am
#7






acmtalk wrote:





Mclearin wrote:





acmtalk wrote:
No, that would be too umbalanced.. Keep in mind that LS have the Highest elemental dmg, + a very Nice min dmg...






Care to elaborate?


I would like to understand why it woudl be too unbalanced, if you please.





A good Lightsaber is well balanced now.. It it can do alot of damage... We are not suppost to riflemen, Jedi's speed+dmg is balanced the way I see.. + all the cool tricks that We can have.




/agree






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DrNeek
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:53 am
#8


A Rifle with a max damage of 1200 would have a minimum damage of 600. That means when someone with that rifle hits a M.Defender, or a jedi with aura on, it will hit for 600 all the time and never come close to 1200.


A saber with 1200 max damage would have a minimum damage of 1050ish, that means would constatly his tremendously hard all the time, regardless of damage.


Once AB'd and KD's, landing a head hit at would hit for 2000 damage, plus 20% because the opponent is KD'd so 2400, minus let's say 30% for what's leftover from the armor and you'd be hitting for 1500+ which means 2 hits and the opponent would be dead.





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Mythrindir
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:53 am
#9

works for me



as long as my laser rifles min is upped to 1100





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SoloBacca1
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:55 am
#10

This idea would make us Incridible... we arent supposed to be that uber... at least stronger then one guy can come and take me down... Fixing Speed, and giving us our ability to loot Pearls that have a higher raiting on tun ing to Uber would be more then enough, on the top of that we all wish to see our special damage type coming back, nowadays its little easier to make a Mandolorien armor that in the old days had LightSaber Defense... Only Boba Fett, could solo a Jedi, because he had the right skills, and components...




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kreindhild
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:55 am
#11






Mythrindir wrote:

works for me



as long as my laser rifles min is upped to 1100







for your bounty hunter alt? what about the pistols, carbines, melee. we would get into who can kd first wins again.





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Mythrindir
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:56 am
#12






kreindhild wrote:





Mythrindir wrote:

works for me



as long as my laser rifles min is upped to 1100







for your bounty hunter alt? what about the pistols, carbines, melee. we would get into who can kd first wins again.






(thats my point)



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Pday
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:57 am
#13

my bowcaster is 698 min, pretty much higher than most post cu jedi and some pre cu jedi have max on sabers.



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