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Thread: Will the new FRS be the deciding factor for you?

Daivan
Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:55 am
#1


Let me just preface this post by saying that this is not a complaint or a whine, just a straight up question that I can answer honestly for myself. I'm wondering where the rest of you stand.


Jedi have seen quite an "evolution" of both the player base/community as well as how their skills and roles in SWG play out. We've gained great skills, lost great skills. Some skills have been fixed, others have been broken for quite some time, many "hot fixes" have been added and havent fixed anything. SOE installed the FRS for us tocompete with each other and gain new abilities and develop our skillset....it was ruined by cheaters, I suppose that was inevitible.


The FRS for Jedi was ruined and shut down at the launch of the CU. We were promised a new, revised FRS. We've waited a while now, over half a year by the time this FRS is supposedly supposed to be launched. We're all eager for it, we're all holding our breath, we all can't wait to be knights and start working towards Jedi Master.......which brings me to my question:



If the new FRS is a flop, will you quit SWG?



For me, if the FRS bombs, I'm done. I've waited too long for an uncorrupt, true measure/advancement tool for leveling my Jedi. I'm done with "hot fixes" I'm done with "publishes" and I'm most certainly done with "expansions" that are not worth the $30 or whatever, that I pay for them. I'm done with nerfs, KD bugs, cloak bugs, 13 year old BH's, 13 year old Jedi, sabre exploits, etc etc.


If, however, the new FRS is fantastic, offers very challanging advancement, and is uncorrupt, then this game may have something to offer for Jedi again and I will stay and enjoy what there is to enjoy in the game.


My fellow Jedi, what is your answer to my question?

Message Edited by Daivan on 10-05-2005 09:07 AM

TheCapn2000
Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:57 am
#2






Daivan wrote:

Let me just preface this post by saying that this is not a complaint or a whine, just a straight up question that I can answer honestly for myself. I'm wondering where the rest of you stand.


Jedi have seen quite an "evolution" of both the player base/community as well as how their skills and roles in SWG play out. We've gained great skills, lost great skills. Some skills have been fixed, others have been broken for quite some time, many "hot fixes" have been added and havent fixed anything. SOE installed the FRS for us tocompete with each other and gain new abilities and develop our skillset....it was ruined by cheaters, I suppose that was inevitible.


The FRS for Jedi was ruined and shut down and the launch of the CU. We were promised a new, revised FRS. We've waited a while now, over half a year by the time this FRS is supposedly supposed to be launched. We're all eager for it, we're all holding our breath, we all can't wait to be knights and start working towards Jedi Master.......which brings me to my question:



If the new FRS is a flop, will you quit SWG?



For me, if the FRS bombs, I'm done. I've waited too long for an uncorrupt, true measure/advancement tool for leveling my Jedi. I'm done with "hot fixes" I'm done with "publishes" and I'm most certainly done with "expansions" that are not worth the $30 or whatever, that I pay for them. I'm done with nerfs, KD bugs, cloak bugs, 13 year old BH's, 13 year old Jedi, sabre exploits, etc etc.


If, however, the new FRS is fantastic, offers very challanging advancement, and is uncorrupt, then this game may have something to offer for Jedi again and I will stay and enjoy what there is to enjoy in the game.


My fellow Jedi, what is your answer to my question?




I think you will be hitting the cancel button...




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Wolf24601
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:01 am
#3







TheCapn2000 wrote:



My fellow Jedi, what is your answer to my question?




I think you will be hitting the cancel button...






I agree...he will be hitting that cancel button.


As for me, my goal is to be the last man standing. I want to, by default, become a Jedi master because everyone else quit. By then, SWG will look like one of those post-apocolypse movies, where I'm roaming empty streets (well, NPC filled streets) and wielding the most uber 1337 saber around...since it is the last.


Wolf
Daivan
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:02 am
#4






TheCapn2000 wrote:





Daivan wrote:

Let me just preface this post by saying that this is not a complaint or a whine, just a straight up question that I can answer honestly for myself. I'm wondering where the rest of you stand.


Jedi have seen quite an "evolution" of both the player base/community as well as how their skills and roles in SWG play out. We've gained great skills, lost great skills. Some skills have been fixed, others have been broken for quite some time, many "hot fixes" have been added and havent fixed anything. SOE installed the FRS for us tocompete with each other and gain new abilities and develop our skillset....it was ruined by cheaters, I suppose that was inevitible.


The FRS for Jedi was ruined and shut down and the launch of the CU. We were promised a new, revised FRS. We've waited a while now, over half a year by the time this FRS is supposedly supposed to be launched. We're all eager for it, we're all holding our breath, we all can't wait to be knights and start working towards Jedi Master.......which brings me to my question:



If the new FRS is a flop, will you quit SWG?



For me, if the FRS bombs, I'm done. I've waited too long for an uncorrupt, true measure/advancement tool for leveling my Jedi. I'm done with "hot fixes" I'm done with "publishes" and I'm most certainly done with "expansions" that are not worth the $30 or whatever, that I pay for them. I'm done with nerfs, KD bugs, cloak bugs, 13 year old BH's, 13 year old Jedi, sabre exploits, etc etc.


If, however, the new FRS is fantastic, offers very challanging advancement, and is uncorrupt, then this game may have something to offer for Jedi again and I will stay and enjoy what there is to enjoy in the game.


My fellow Jedi, what is your answer to my question?




I think you will be hitting the cancel button...







Perhaps....but...


Daivan
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:05 am
#5






Wolf24601 wrote:







TheCapn2000 wrote:



My fellow Jedi, what is your answer to my question?




I think you will be hitting the cancel button...






I agree...he will be hitting that cancel button.


As for me, my goal is to be the last man standing. I want to, by default, become a Jedi master because everyone else quit. By then, SWG will look like one of those post-apocolypse movies, where I'm roaming empty streets (well, NPC filled streets) and wielding the most uber 1337 saber around...since it is the last.


Wolf





Wolf - Yeah know many people that say their gonna keep playing until the servers shut down. So don't worry! You wont have to walk the streets alone! haha
BooshkaUK
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:08 am
#6

What would make me quit? I don't think anything would to be honest apart from if my chars got deleted. I enjoy the game, is it buggy? you betcha, is it sometimes a PITA? yup, but i am still having fun doing stuff and chatting with people and the FRS whatever comes of it, ill adapt and go for it head on even if i don't like it 100%



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TraceAntilles
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:14 am
#7

This isn't OUR game to decide how it plays out. Your recourse for a game you don't enjoy is to Cancel.


Just because a game isn't what you expected, or how it used to be, doesn't make it a bad game. It makes you a bad player if you can't learn to adapt.


Same goes with players who plague these forums asking for changes or nerfs cause they can't seem to overcome their enemy.





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Mad_Mick
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:15 am
#8

Well

me ill be doing the knight trials then seeing what the situation is, if its worth my time / effort illl be going for it if not ill be cancelling, with all the waiting we have had i can see an frs that dosent resemble the last one in any respect, but i have 0 faith in soe's ability to implement anything that works first time out.


whatever happens it will change as soon as a way to exploit it is found (give it 1 week max) and probly get pulled for months till somone somwhere figures out a system that will not only work but keep the player base occupied enough to keep em paying.


we will probly end up with a crappy village style frs wi quests/pvp (ie if u are a dark jedi go out and pvp and win against a few light jedi)then a billion xp for a box then another quest staggered over a few weeks to a month to keep the progress so slow its gonna take years to get anywhere. i may be well wrong (i hope so) but im a bit suspicious over all the wait it dosent take this long to look at a system and either chuck it in the bin or say do it.


so yes ill be waiting for it then either cancelling or waiting for the bugs to be worked out then going for it




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Niccolado
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:18 am
#9



Daivan wrote:
Let me just preface this post by saying that this is not a complaint or a whine, just a straight up question that I can answer honestly for myself. I'm wondering where the rest of you stand.
Jedi have seen quite an "evolution" of both the player base/community as well as how their skills and roles in SWG play out. We've gained great skills, lost great skills. Some skills have been fixed, others have been broken for quite some time, many "hot fixes" have been added and havent fixed anything. SOE installed the FRS for us to compete with each other and gain new abilities and develop our skillset....it was ruined by cheaters, I suppose that was inevitible.
The FRS for Jedi was ruined and shut down and the launch of the CU. We were promised a new, revised FRS. We've waited a while now, over half a year by the time this FRS is supposedly supposed to be launched. We're all eager for it, we're all holding our breath, we all can't wait to be knights and start working towards Jedi Master.......which brings me to my question:
If the new FRS is a flop, will you quit SWG?
For me, if the FRS bombs, I'm done. I've waited too long for an uncorrupt, true measure/advancement tool for leveling my Jedi. I'm done with "hot fixes" I'm done with "publishes" and I'm most certainly done with "expansions" that are not worth the $30 or whatever, that I pay for them. I'm done with nerfs, KD bugs, cloak bugs, 13 year old BH's, 13 year old Jedi, sabre exploits, etc etc.
If, however, the new FRS is fantastic, offers very challanging advancement, and is uncorrupt, then this game may have something to offer for Jedi again and I will stay and enjoy what there is to enjoy in the game.
My fellow Jedi, what is your answer to my question?





I will NOT quit, but more jedi who DO quit, more unique will I become!




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VaainEldritch
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:26 am
#10







Daivan wrote:



My fellow Jedi, what is your answer to my question?





If the FRS is abandoned, then yes I will leave.


If the FRS is an unmitigated disaster, by which I mean a flimsy series of bug-riddled "quests" that require grouping, are littered with spelling and grammatical errors, and leave Jedi where they are now in terms of advancement and power relative to other professions, then yes I will leave.


If however the FRS allows a Jedi player to advance, over time, to become even a shadowy reflection of the Jedi we see in the movies and the EU, gives Jedi a cause to join in the battle of Light Vs Dark, keeps the GCW intact by not interfering (this CAN be done by giving Jedi a compelling conflict of their own to fight, participation in which precludes them from GCW affairs), is not hopelessly bugged and broken upon release and offers real value for money, then I'll certainly stay and stay for as long as the servers are up.


From my own point of view, the Dev's have everything to win and everything to lose.


Message Edited by VaainEldritch on 10-05-2005 04:29 PM



Va'ain

Urban Dictionary definition of SMED:

"to interfere with one's gaming enjoyment: To drastically alter an item which is enjoyed by thousands."

TO pull a smed. Jeez, those dev's pulled a smed on swg big time

Daivan
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:27 am
#11






TraceAntilles wrote:

This isn't OUR game to decide how it plays out. Your recourse for a game you don't enjoy is to Cancel.


Just because a game isn't what you expected, or how it used to be, doesn't make it a bad game. It makes you a bad player if you can't learn to adapt.


Same goes with players who plague these forums asking for changes or nerfs cause they can't seem to overcome their enemy.








Thanks for your comments on my opinions.


The question still stands.


Daivan
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:29 am
#12






VaainEldritch wrote:







Daivan wrote:



My fellow Jedi, what is your answer to my question?





If the FRS is abandoned, then yes I will leave.


If the FRS is an unmitigated disaster, by which I mean a flimsy series of bug-riddled "quests" that require grouping, are littered with spelling and grammatical errors, and leave Jedi where they are now in terms of advancement and power relative to other professions, then yes I will leave.


If however the FRS allows a Jedi player to advance, over time, to become even a shadowy reflection of the Jedi we see in the movies and the EU, gives Jedi a cause to join in the battle of Light Vs Dark, keeps the GCW intact by not interfering (this CAN be done by giving Jedi a compelling conflict of their own to fight, participation in which precludes them from GCW affairs), is not hopelessly bugged and broken upon release and offers real value for money, then I'll certainly stay and stay for as long as the servers are up.


From my own point of view, the Dev's have everything to win and everything to lose.



Message Edited by VaainEldritch on 10-05-2005 04:29 PM





I couldnt agree more.
trajen2
Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:38 am
#13

I think we are ALL hoping for a good, better FRS. . .


If it is a quest-based (or god-forbid XP based) system that really only give titles and robes, then a lot of people will walk. . .


If, like others stated, it allows a more dynamic system which allows an increase in power, you will see people embrace it . .


I am generally one of the most patient players and my patience is wearing thin as of late. Lets hope they begin to release some information for us to keep us hoping b/c from my perspective, players are losing all hope and assume it will never come to be.





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It ain't braggin' if you can do it . . ."

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