Jedi Archive

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crunchy212 wrote:

New jedi system

New topics will be in color main big ideas will be underlined for easy reading.


Long post brace your self.
Will help emersion and less jedi sightings.

The following jedi system is not directly my ideas. Almost all information I have compiled is from various video games books and comic.
I do no take any credit for the ideas in this system. You can give me credit for researching and compiling this info. Please bear with me on spelling and grammar mistakes.

Non FS to Jedi:

Basically for this part I don’t see there really any need to change how u go from Force sensitive to jedi. Basically it’s the same thing you get badges you go to the village grind 6 bars kill Millache(not sure how to spell his name) and you start padawan quest.

Jedi padawan

Ok you finish the padawan trials you receive a way point to the light jedi enclave. When you walk in the enclave you receive a padawan robe and a training saber (random color ). Once you enter the enclave you will not be able to leave until you are taken on as a apprentice. Jedi in the old days learned the ways of the force by dueling other padawan’s . To receive your 1st 50% of the skills in jedi you wish to eventually have, you most continuously duel other padawan’s in the enclave. No visibility will be generated in the enclave. Also if you wish to mingle in the ways of a dark jedi if u death blow 3 or more padawan’s you will be exiled from the enclave and you will be striped away of your robe and your saber you will then go to the dark jedi enclave. You gain a certain amount of experience for winning a duel and less experience for losing a duel. I believe the experience should be considerable small so there isn’t a ton of padawan’s gaining all there skills very quickly. There will be jedi skill trainers all throughout the enclave which u will be taught your 1st 50% of your jedi skills. Lets say like every 2 weeks a group of jedi knights will visit the enclave in search for a jedi apprentice. While the knights are there for 2 days padawan’s will duel other padawan’s to try and impress a jedi knight. On the last day the knights are there they will choose either to pick a apprentice or not pick one and wait till the next 2 or 3 weeks to look for another apprentice. The jedi knights will have the ability to craft a padawan braid which they can in a sense "propose unity" to the padawan. If the padawan accepts he or she will be come a jedi apprentice a new robe will be given and the ability to craft there own lightsaber. The padwan braid will now appear on the person . If the padawan is not asked to become a apprentice 10% of the padawan skills will be lost and they must work hard for the next visit.

Jedi apprentice

Now that the padawan is a apprentice they will now take part of very story driven quest with there master . Sense the old jedi temple believes in learning by doing so will the apprentice. The padawan will now learn the next 50% of his or her skills from the jedi knight. The apprentice will gain experience for killing things in the mission and for completing the mission . Also if the apprentice feels tempted by the dark side they can click on there padawan braid and break unity they will then be able to attack the knight if they strike his master down his robe will be taken and his saber and he will go to the dark enclave. Bounty hunter experience loss will still be there and some of these quest will require you to kill non player characters which will gain you visibility. Apprentices and knights will not gain visibility from each other only from killing non player characters will they gain visibility or if some one else sees them using the force or saber . The jedi knights are there to protect the apprentice and to teach them so if a Bounty hunter comes its there duty to protect there apprentice. When the apprentice has completed all of his jedi skills the apprentice will be brought upon the jedi council which exists in the enclave. Any jedi with the rank of guardian or up will be able to vote on if they think the apprentice is ready for the knight trials. If the apprentices are voted down they will loss 20% of there skills and will have to take part on more quests. If voted yes the apprentice will now take part on the jedi knight trials which they will part take on alone with no help.

Only problem with this is you have to have a knight with the same template as the the apprentice wants to go to. Knight with no powers cant teach a paddie who wants to go powers. If apprentices start going with whatever the FOTM is and the knight sticks with his tried and true, the Knight might not be able to get much apprentices without having to change his template.
Jedi knight

If the apprentice completes the jedi knight trials he will become a jedi knight which is given the knight robe. He or she will now be able to craft a padawan braid he will now look for a apprentice. Knights will gain knight experience which is gained from taking on a apprentice, completing a mission with there apprentice and teaching the apprentice the ways of the force killing Bounty Hunter's. If the knight dies from a Bounty hunter he will loss knight experience this will keep knights from running around town with sabers a blazing. Each rank he gains he will get a new robe. The knight will have to take on a apprentice to really gain experience so if there existing apprentice becomes a knight they will have to choose a new apprentice. You need 6 apprentices to become a master then when you are a master in order to hold rank as a master is to keep taking on padawan’s so there is always that constant flow if a master doesn’t take a apprentice for a long period of time he will loose Force ranking xp and loose of rank and if he persist not to take on a apprentice they will losse other ranks and skills in the Force ranking system.

This wont happen, Dev's already love BH's too much to allow a paddy to have help. Andbh's will cry if they did do this.
Jedi masters

Only thing to mention about masters is you can be on the council and you can choose if a apprentice is ready for the trials(Only 2 people per guild allowed on the council to reduce guilds taking over.)

Like this, but seems like there should be more....
Dark side

Mentioned before if you kill a padawan 3 times you will go to the dark enclave also if u attack your master. As soon as you walk in the dark enclave dark jedi have double experience will be always on for the dark jedi so it’s a easy more deceptive path. The path of a true jedi will be a long and vigorous time . Hence the quick and easy path. You will then be able to be taken on as a dark apprentice .Apprentices will gain experience for killing other light jedi completing missions and eventually when you think you have surpassed your master to attack and kill them . If you kill your master you will be able to do the dark jedi knight trails a bit different from the light knight trails (Dark jedi knight trials would consist of killing icconect people light knight trails will consist of helping people) . Dark side jedi will also have better mods in the power tree in the Force ranking system. Light jedi will get more healer mods in the Force ranking system

This sounds like fun, wonder if there would be any light jedi hehe.
General info

All jedi have the potential to learn a force power or attack which is chosen randomly when you become a knight there is no other way you can learn this skill . Padawan’s need experience for jedi skills, knights need it for knight experience to gain rank both can loose experience for dying by a Bounty Hunter. If a Bounty Hunter attacks, both the apprentice and the knight can attack the Bounty Hunter.

If at any time a master or padawan hasn’t logged in simply break unity and be eligible either to take on another apprentice or eligible to be taken on as a apprentice a message will come up telling you they haven’t logged in and now can break unity.

This not only a jedi idea but all professions pretty much.Tailor can now make weapon holsters straps and clips all weapons will be required to be on one of these when not in combat. After you kill what your attacking you will see a animation that you put your weapon back on your holster or clip or strap .This also opens a cool animation for jedi just like what Yoda does when he goes to fight Dookoo you see him tuck his robe to the side use the force to pull the saber to his hand and ignite it that would be a awesome animation.

Jedi vis

Ok there has to be something done in the department .Im thinking that we cant stop people from getting jedi but there needs to me a equal penalty for both padawan’s and knights . It cant be perma death so don’t even start with that how could SOE possibly just make your char that you have worked for so much gone in a second from some non player characters or Bounty Hunter. What they need to do for padawan is if you get on the terms and you get hunted you will loose a skill or skills depending on how far you are in jedi. For knight when the Force ranking system comes out im thinking if you get killed you loose a Force ranking system skill or skills depending how far in the Force ranking system you are. I think this will make jedi sightings drop like a rock and all jedi to be carful about not to generate vis maybe experience loss could also be in this as well to make it worse . I have mixed feeling’s on if only should occur on Bounty Hunter death or non player characters death id say both to really cut down on the sightings of jedi. Robes gain a jedi vis if seen wearing it.

Knight trails

This idea is a very big mixture of ideas that I’ve seen on the boards. Really only thing I have to say what I think should be changed is after you choose either light or dark your last mission you will be sent to a cave where you will craft unique light saber and robe and cloak. Here all resources with top notch maxed out quality resources will be at your disposal you craft your light saber here with the resources in the cave there is a huge pallet of a huge varied color crystals you can choose from so you can really have your own unique saber. Sabers will be broken into 3 parts top middle and bottom each section there is a varied of looks for that part so you can realy make your own unique saber. Also same as saber you will have tons of resources to make your own unique robe and cloak(that you can wear over robe). There will be a varied amount of test objects you can kill to see if you like your saber and cloak /robe soon as you leave you cant go back in what ever you made is what you keep.(no pearls or damage crystals will be in the cave so you will have to collect your own and put them in your saber.

Force ranking system

Only thing I have to add to this is for each force ranking skill you get , you get another chance to go back in the cave to make your next robe /cloak and another lightsaber if you would like.

Lightsaber skill tree and sabers in general

I think there needs to be a way to craft a very unique saber what we need to have is to have our light saber broken in to 3 sections top middle and bottom. For each section you can choose for a varied amount of different section looks so you can make your own unique saber. Also to make master light sabers a more worth while thing is to have a skill that when you use it almost all incoming ranged attacks will be blocked (cant be stacked with defender skill) this will make a nice substitute if you don’t want all of defender. also Master lightsaber will get a 5th generation saber so they can be up to par with other hybrid professions. One last thing for sabers you will get advanced power attack which will have a warm up timer and cool down timer and improved power attacks warm up will be removed.

Defender

Only thing I see is that all jedi trees have some new skill you can do except the ranged tree in defender. I think we should have some type of skill in there if every other tree does don’t you think . How about a skill that will increase blocking melee blows.

/agree

Healer

At master healer a resurrect ability will be given where jedi players can ..well resurrect another fallen comrade. Also a area heal with a cool animation like in KOTOR how u lift your hand up and purple beam goes to each target around you think that was drain life but instead it will give life to all players near you.

Powers

Only thing I can see here is maybe make force choke a root cause I don’t know about you but when you get choked um well your not going to be running around your going to sit there try to gasp for air. also choke should drain your action as a side affect after the choke tick has gone away for about 30 seconds . To be realistic after you get choked you wont be wanting to do much so I think a action drain would be reasonable. This could be a nice substitute to force sap . Another thing I could see as a enhancement is for force lighting I think there should be a new state affect that is inflected on your target called shock almost like a stun reduce accuracy and defense for a bit. stick your finger in a outlet see if your not dazed ...don’t do that actually don’t need to be sewed

Enhancer

I cant really think of anything to do with enhancer.




General combat

I have to say after playing KOTOR I loved there combat system how melee constantly block other melee attacks . I think in the light saber tree you should get melee block mod that increases the chance of you blocking a melee strike . This will make jedi vs jedi duels or just jedi vs melee or melee vs melee really look like the movies . All other melee professions will get a melee block mod as well

Hope you guys like this idea this is the 3rd time with this idea each time I add more and more ideas from the feed back I get from you guys so please keep this post to the top and post ideas comment and feed back

no flaming as well please

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not fully under standing what your saying but...

you get a saber to use after you finish the padawan quest thats your saber untill you enter the knight trails when you make your own unique saber