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Thread: Jedi and constant nerfs/changes

DarkLordXoni
Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:06 am
#1

Anyone else get the feeling that every time a group of Bounty Hunterscomplain about a jedi skill we get a nerf???? I am really getting sick of this, we have to regrind our temp every patch cuz the skills constantly change, im about set to remove my account.....just not fun anymore. nothin to do in game.



This post is meant to share your pain, anger, and feelings towards this subject, plz post


Xoni

Dark Jedi Knight

Server: Gorath





Xoni
Dark Forces
Dark Jedi Knight
Monski
Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:15 am
#2

I hear ya, check out my post. I got a BH also and have no problems what so ever, even with cloakers. Game keeps getting nerfed to hell, and the cry babies always get what they want. It's time to start tearing up other professions that are 'over powered' or have 'I win buttons'. They can nerf us, but they can't fix all the exploits that are already in the game, saber stuffing, etc !!!!
Zodiac-B
Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:24 am
#3






DarkLordXoni wrote:

Anyone else get the feeling that every time a group of Bounty Hunterscomplain about a jedi skill we get a nerf???? I am really getting sick of this, we have to regrind our temp every patch cuz the skills constantly change, im about set to remove my account.....just not fun anymore. nothin to do in game.



This post is meant to share your pain, anger, and feelings towards this subject, plz post


Xoni

Dark Jedi Knight

Server: Gorath








Don't forget about nerf requests from other Jedi too. I just don't understand people. Instead of saying this is too powerful, we should be coming up with ways / suggestions of what needs to be done to balance it out.


Just an example:


Should do-


CM's heal faster than a Master Healer even with just 4000. Can we please increase the effectiveness of a Master Healer?


Reality-


CM's are too powerful, nerf them!


(I know this nerf example is not about nerfing Jedi, but I'm sure you can see what I'm talking about. )

Message Edited by Zodiac-B on 09-24-2005 11:25 AM





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DarkLordXoni
Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:30 am
#4

i agree entirley... but the reality is......Do u think the devs will nerf MCM? rofl probably not...easier for them to nerf jedi



Xoni
Dark Forces
Dark Jedi Knight
SoloBacca1
Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:32 am
#5

Trusting the DEVs is what you fail in my dear Padawan. Welcome to the Jedi Order!




Mossa TheGreat

FIGHT
Light up your Lighter


pussycat
Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:34 am
#6

The situation is dire, indeed.

The only glimmer of hope: FRS comes back, is not all about PVP, and once u can make it to Knight you are uber again... but seriously, I'm not holding my breath for SOE to make the game actually *fun* again.
Zodiac-B
Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:35 am
#7






DarkLordXoni wrote:
i agree entirley... but the reality is......Do u think the devs will nerf MCM? rofl probably not...easier for them to nerf jedi





Remember,the requestwasn't asking to nerf CM, it was to enhance Master Healer to balance itself with CM. No nerf requests, just enhancements.





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SoloBacca1
Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:48 am
#8

Improvements is the key, if I could attack at the rate my Modified Speed is saying... WOOT!




Mossa TheGreat

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Light up your Lighter


DarkLordXoni
Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:36 pm
#9

ya exactly nerf balancing needs to be abandoned.....and they need to fix the bugs and issues that are happening...if my lightsaber speed and accuracy ca's actually worked...omg i would be happy ..i have +25 double bladed ls speed..and +25 double bladed ls accuracy....in ca's..and i dont think they are helping..but its hard to know



Xoni
Dark Forces
Dark Jedi Knight
sidaln
Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:12 pm
#10

ok. i totally agree that nerfing cloak is a big mistake. i just got padawan about 1 week ago and theres no way im ever gona go master saber heal 4xxx enhance 44x4 and defender xx4x, or the enhace 34x2 and defender 4x4x combo. i garuntee 80 percent of jedi have this template thinking they will be the best, when theres no way in hell ,sense theres plenty of other people with better saber damage plus probably smarter than me anyway. Its really stupid to have everyone be the same in the jedi proffessions so i decided to go master powers, master enhancer, heal 4xxx, defender xx1x. now...... there is no way i can straight up beat the template stated first by just straight up dueling like they do. instead i figured, "hery i want to have fun with this, i think it would be cool to cloak and uncloak doing things like stasis and force breach, and even advance force knockdown in the middle of the opposite faction wher there are a ton of enemies standing around not expecting it". i dont care about be the best i know i cant beat the best becaause they exist. i just wanted a template to make me immortal to everdying to kep my diggnitty and be a "ghost" to society. this is basically the kinda fun that a mmorpg should have, but no nerfing prof. will just lead to stupid pointless, lets all be the same bull crap. everyone is different and we all dont want to be alike, everyone needs to have some way of having fun or theres no point in selling the service of this game to its players and i for one think the creators are a joke if they continue this unthinkable nerfing...


sidaln

bloodfin

i have 3 accounts and four players/alts total on bloodfin

including sidaln, pelco, audra, and fatice
Vernos
Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:04 am
#11


Its really getting ridiculous. I hear now they are going to nerf cloak.. I do NOT have cloak and I it doesn't bother me that cloak is a good skill and it has some advantages.It didn't bother me that AI or Clarity 3 force speed 3 was good or whatever. Learn to use the temp if its got a line that has an advantage what's wrong with that. Every profession can grab a line from another tree to make him/herself better in some way take M fencer/pike heal 4 that's an awesome temp non jedi or cm/bh pistols.. Jedi has its great lines but one by one they are being picked apart and nerfed.. Its completely stupid. Why do we all have to be balanced? Learn how to use your temps if u don't like it change it.If Your afraid of someone with a better skill even non jedi dont cry nerf maybe try a different approach or enhancement. I learned how to beat CM/bh just wait on there mind I dont cry nerf. Cloak heck I think its pretty neat. They gave up something to get that maybe a line in defense, you dont know. I know when deciding to grab a line its a tough choice you give up another skill that would be fun.There's safe temps and there's fun temps as well. As far as MLS MD being so awesome.. ITs a nice temp but most likely they gave up suppression (root) or some heals or whatever. I learned to adapt to fighting MLS MD even when they use AI I just wait out the timer..they may use it again if they have enough force I wait out the timer sometimes I have to use a holo but I hardly ever loose to them anymore you just have to practice. This constant nerfing and changing skills is wrong. Some have grinded for weeks or months and than they change the skill..Its not right Im afraid to use my token respec I dont know what they will change its SOO sad and confuseing. Please devs just fix the bugs and exploits make the FRS work again.. Stop killing what we have earned and learned to use .. Enhance jedi enhance others. Why do you always feel the need to destroy or go backwards =( Jedi have had to relearn temps over and over again what was good last month is bad next. If CM heal too good than just make our heals what they once were before you nerfed them.Sometimes when you nerf a skill it makes another skill more usefull.It creates a NEW problem I think thats whats been happening since the CU its a horrible cycle as you nerf one thing it makes another thing to good so nerf that and another is to good. I hope you see the cycle no one complained about CM heals till you nerfed ours. If they complained about ours they can pick up the good heals lines in prof. they made a choice. If you nerf cloak well than heack you have to nerf the non jedi cover right??Now thats not fair,,. Jedi are just to fast nerf it ..Well now doc speed buffs need to be nerfed not fair.. LOL Im soo kidding but you see its completely crazy pretty soon we will all be the same non jedi and jedi. IT will be no adavantage to pick up anything cuz it will be so ballenced it will come down to who hit first. Or who forgot to click something..WE give up something for that line no matter what proffesion you are almost all skills have a counter already although they are getting moved to the grey area as you continue to update..Ifyou continue tofeel jedi are just too powerfull than enhance and remove us from the GCW giveing reg players the option to duel and have fun or something.WE have worked very hard to bebetter than reg professions the grind the village on and on.I think every player would agree that a jediwould have adavantagesother than just looking really neat.I personally would support being removed from the GCW and just fight light and dark to stop the ballencing of us with reg professions its not right.Please stop the nerfs just fix the broken stuff fix the bugs stop already please...



Message Edited by Vernos on 09-24-2005 12:25 PM



DAR'KE - i have only mastered 4 professions...
CH/SCOUT/RANGER/MARKSMAN
...i dropped marksman, the rest was removed from game !
Monski
Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:49 am
#12

/agree


It's always nerf, never balance


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