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There is a little project I was thinking about that might help the jedi. We have been crying for help with no truly hard data to back up our claims. While I was on the beta board I started a post about this but the devs never replied. What I would like to do is get people to help me out by running a series of experiments and help me gather some data so we can crunch the numbers and find out through mathmatics what the true weakness are. This way we can present concrete evidence to the devs and anyone else about how strong the jedi truly are
This will be a big project and I will need a lot of people to help me do this
If I could get the backing of the correspondent it would help alot
The main areas I would like to look at are damage (sabers and powers and longevity of a fight)
To do the first I would like to get the max values for all 5 different gen sabers and the respective class levels. Then I want to look at all the weapons of the respecive class levels and compare them. I did this briefly on the beta boards before they shut down and my unrefined result was that the best lightsaber was 25% weaker than 75% of the weapons of that respective level (weapons were unmoded). I also want to run the numbers with the weapons modded. If anyone has a WS alt and can supply me some numbers that would be great. Also the numbers off dropped weapons would really help

As for the longevity that one is basically how long a jedi can last under normal battle conditions before he looses the abilty to fight/heal vs a normal one. (Note we can not use Bothan, Rodain, and Trando for this due to enhanced recovery stats).
To help me on this one. If I can get people to fight an oponent with you fully temped jedi and let them go till the jedi can not fight further and record the time. Then take an alt or a friend and have him fight the same mob and record teh tim. You can use whatever food/buffs just as long as tehy both have the same ones.. Also remember not to kill the mobs and try to get whatever weapons you are using to the same SAC roughly

I am also open to any other test we can try to determine the actual numerical values

Message Edited by Taqwus on 10-20-2005 05:06 PM

Here is a sample of what I am talking about
Pistols

Alliance Disruptor Pistol
Max 948
Speed
Wound 26.45%

DE-10 Pistol
Max 969.25 slicing cap 929
Speed 1.73
Wound 23%
(max dmg may be based on barrel used)

DL44 XT
Max 948.75
Speed 1.73
Wound 10.35%
SAC 65

Death-Hammer Pistol
Max 709
Speed 1.73
Wound 26.45%

FeatherWeight FWG 5
Max 966 slicing cap: 935
Speed 1.73
Wound

FWG 5
Max 948.75
Speed 1.73
Wound 13.8%


High Capacity Scatter pistol
Max 948 slicing cap: 916
Speed 1.73
Wound 31.05%
SAC 65

Intimidator Pistol
Max 948.75 slicing cap: 916
Speed 1.73
Wound 26.45%

Mod Republic Blaster
Max 948 Slice Cap 916
Speed 1.73
Wound 28.75%

Renegade Pistol
Max 948.75
Speed 1.73
Wound 36.8%

SR Combat Pistol
Max 649
Speed
Wound 19.55%

Carbines

Alliance Needler
Max 678
Speed 1.95
Wound 18.4%

Czerka dart
Max 931.5 slicing cap: 897
Speed
Wound 18.4%

DXR6
Max 888
Speed 2.17
Wound
SAC 82 (same as rifle)

E11 Mark II
Max 1063.75 slicing cap: 1046
Speed
Wound 28.75%
SAC 73

Elite Carbine
Max 1063.75 Slice Cap 1046
Speed
Wound 18.4%
SAC 73

Laser Carbine
Max 857
Speed
Wound 18.4%
SAC 73

Proton Carbine
Max 923
Speed
Wound

ADV Laser Rifle
Max 1184.5 Slice Cap 1183
Speed 2.17 Slicing Cap 2.15
Wound 14.95%
SAC 82

Assault Bowcaster
Max 1184.5
Speed
Wound 28.75%

Berserker Rifle
Max 887.8
Speed 1.95
Wound 40.25%

Heavy Lightning Rifle
Max 1150 slicing cap:1144
Speed
Wound

T21 Rifle
Max 1184.5
Speed
Wound 33.35%
SAC 82

Trandosian Rifle
Max 1163-1184 (seems to be dependent on looted barrel) Slice Cap 1183
Speed
Wound

Tusken Rifle
Max 887.8
Speed
Wound 13.8%

Heavy Weapons

Plasma Flamer
Max 1148.82 slicing cap 1137
Speed
Wound 18.4%

1hnd Melee

RYYK Blade
Max 722
Speed
Wound 33.35%
SAC 75

Stun Baton
Max 876.30
Speed
Wound 24.15%
SAC 65

2hnd Melee

Power Hammer
Max 1184 (min 592.25)
Speed
Wound 23%
Sac 82

Unarmed

Blaster Fist
Max 655.5
Speed 1.73
Wound 29.9%
SAC 65


As you can see most of the weapons have an unmodded cap of 950 which is 25% stronger than the best saber
I would like to get even more data, I do not no anything about slicing or how much damage/speed/sac a PuP can add

List the mins to please...they actually do matter.

I found this on the loot forun
UEST/LOOT/LIMITED SCHEMA

* Alliance Needler Carbine
* Berserker Rifle
* Blackbane Nail
* Blackhand Annihilater
* Blade of Nyenthi'oris
* Bothan Bola Carbine
* Champion's Sword
* CorSec CDEF Carbine
* CorSec CDEF Pistol
* CorSec Scout Blaster
* Curved Nyax Sword
* DC15 Carbine
* DC15 Rifle
* DE-10 Pistol
* Donkuwah Knife
* Executioner's Hack
* Explosive Shell Sniper Rifle
* Fallan Hyper-Rifle
* Featherweight FWG5 Pistol
* Flare Pistol
* Gamorrean Battle-Axe
* Geonosian Sonic Blaster
* Geonosian Sonic Carbine
* Grooved Two-Handed Sword
* Jagged Vibroblade
* Janta Knife
* Janta Staff
* Jawa Ion Pistol
* Junti Mace
* Kalranoos Carbine
* Kaminoan Great Staff
* Kashyyyk Bladestick
* Knuckles of the Katarn
* KYD21 Pistol
* LD-1 Rifle
* Lithitanium Carbine
* Lithitanium Rifle
* Marauder Sword
* Massassi Sword
* Massassi Ink Rifle
* Massassi Lance
* Modified Republic Blaster
* Nak'tra Crystal Knife
* Nightsister Energy Lance
* Nightsister Lance
* Nyax Sword
* Nym's Slug-Thrower Carbine
* Pestilence
* Proton Carbine
* Quicktrigger Countermand
* Rantok
* Razor Knuckler
* RSF Sword
* Scythe Blade
* Shock Lance
* Sinew Wrapped Knife
* Stone Knife
* Tchotchee Pistol
* Tenloss DXR-6 Disruptor
* The Black Falcon
* Trandoshan Hunter's Lance
* Trandoshan Suppressor Pistol
* Two-Handed Kashyyyk Sword
* Two-Handed Sith Sword
* Tusken King's Rifle
* Urnsor'is SoulLeecher
* Vexa Flechette Pistol
* Xris Acid Sword
* Zicx Bug Bomb

AVATAR PLATFORM

* Blackscale "Dosh Special" Pistol
* Blackscale "Hall Sweeper" Carbine
* Blackscale Acid Launcher
* Blackscale Stun Stick
* Ion Stunner Pistol
* Kashyyyk Spiritblade
* Kashyyyk Stalker Pistol
* Trandoshan Laser Rifle
* Trandoshan Hunting Rifle
* UR-G8 Pistol
* Wookiee Heartlance
* Wookiee Toothpick
* [?] [lockbox in wall on Avatar Platform]

NECROSIS

* Bloodshot Ripper
* Covert Retaliation
* Dawnsorrow Rifle
* N-K Executer
* Necrosis Nightblade
* Nullifier X
* Perfectly-Calibrated Pistol

Now if we can get the stats on each I can add them one by one
As I am adding them I am remiving them from teh list also

Message Edited by Taqwus on 10-20-2005 10:39 AM
Edited for the ones I have been able to find

I still need to get the player created weapons

Message Edited by Taqwus on 10-20-2005 01:54 PM

Bumping

Anyone want to help