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Thread: hear you go ranger changes,
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omni38
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:44 am
#1
it looks like they are more suited for pvp now.
Ranger Enhancements
When Han Solo, Chewbacca, Ben Kenobi, a boy and two droids made their way from the Mos Eisley cantina to Docking Bay 94, a darkly clad figure in the shadows pointed in the direction to the same docking bay. Shortly after, 30 stormtroopers tried to stop the heroes of the rebellion from escaping!
Set in a science fiction landscape, the Ranger Profession is being seen in the light of an exciting new vision. Rangers are being migrated from a resource harvesting profession to a clandestine spy-ops themed profession. To this end, various changes are being made to the ranger skills as well as the currently prerequisite Scout profession.
Changes to the Scout Profession:
In preparing to re-envision the Ranger profession, there have been some changes made to the Scout Profession and the existing Ranger skills:
When Han Solo, Chewbacca, Ben Kenobi, a boy and two droids made their way from the Mos Eisley cantina to Docking Bay 94, a darkly clad figure in the shadows pointed in the direction to the same docking bay. Shortly after, 30 stormtroopers tried to stop the heroes of the rebellion from escaping!
Set in a science fiction landscape, the Ranger Profession is being seen in the light of an exciting new vision. Rangers are being migrated from a resource harvesting profession to a clandestine spy-ops themed profession. To this end, various changes are being made to the ranger skills as well as the currently prerequisite Scout profession.
Changes to the Scout Profession:
In preparing to re-envision the Ranger profession, there have been some changes made to the Scout Profession and the existing Ranger skills:
A New Beginning
The new vision for Rangers is a bold and exciting new move for the profession. These new Rangers are geared for stealth and combat, able to hide and conceal themselves in both urban and wilderness environments. They can set special traps and create potent new explosives and traps.
The new skill lines for Ranger will be "Hiding & Concealment", "Stealth & Subterfuge", "Anti-Personnel Devices & Traps" and "Pursuit & Countermeasures".
Let's take a closer look at the new skill set:
Hiding & Concealment
Planet specific Camouflage-Kits will remain in the game, working in conjunction with the camouflage skills in this new skill line. As one cannot walk about in urban environments wearing a twig hat to blend in, we have made a distinction between urban and wild environments for concealment purposes.
Urban environments are defined as areas where there is a certain level of structural density and anywhere that is specifically designed as a city region. Wilderness environments are every else.
Camouflage skills only concern themselves with stationary concealment. Concealed movement is available in the Stealth & Subterfuge skill tree. Concealment is always subject to detection, taking into consideration skill modifiers of the person hiding and the person seeking.
Certain actions will automatically reveal a camouflaged (hidden) Ranger (like moving about, for instance) and some actions will not be possible at all under camouflage, requiring the Ranger to first reveal themselves. As the Ranger's skill in Hiding & Concealment improves, their camouflage skills will advance as well, relaxing some of the restrictions of the lower hiding skills.
Skills:
Skill Modifiers:
Schematics:
The H.E.P has a power source with a maximum capacity determined by one of the experimentation lines. The power rating essentially determines how many seconds the H.E.P functions before shutting down. Once the device is shut down, it instantly recharges the power cell. When this happens, the maximum power level is permanently reduced by a small amount. Eventually the H.E.P power cells become degraded to a point where they can no longer power the device and it must be replaced. Shutting down the device before it is completely drained will preserve more of the power capacity than if one were to allow the cells to drain completely.
The second experimentation line for this device determines the effectiveness of the H.E.P. The effectiveness of the H.E.P is compared to the effectiveness of a Chaff Flare that might be deployed around a stealthy ranger in an attempt to uncover him. More effective H.E.Ps will stand up better against Chaff Flares, but will last for shorter periods of time.
Stealth & Subterfuge
Stealth skills will facilitate concealed locomotion at a reduced movement rate (IE sneaking). Stealth attempts have a higher chance of failure if the Ranger has not been previously camouflaged. If you have not been previously camouflaged, a camouflage kit is required for being stealthy. The exception to this rule is stealth in an urban setting, which is facilitated by a Holographic Energy Projector. (See above).
During stealth, periodic checks are made that may render the ranger visible. Thus, caution must be exercised when one moves about. For instance, sneaking into a building whilst disguised as a tree (as one is, when camouflaged) would immediately expose the ranger, for example.
Various planet specific camouflage kits are granted throughout this skill tree.
Skills:
Stealing -With this Stealth skill modifier, Rangers may attempt to steal from any humanoid that they could attack under normal circumstances. The Ranger must be camouflaged or in "stealth mode" to attempt any theft. A botched stealing attempt will, at the very least, cause the Ranger to be revealed and to lose a measure of faction, if applicable. A successful stealing attempt will net either cash or loot items. Stealing objects from an NPC does *not* modify in any way the loot/cash the NPC drops when slain under normal circumstances. PvP stealing is supported by the system, but it is limited to only specially marked "steal-able" items. Steal-able items are clearly marked and currently only take the form of special mission and/or event objects. Steal-able objects are issued to players under the similar circumstances as other PvP events/missions/quests. PvP stealing is only possible versus players that one could already attack (factional enemies for instance) under existing rules.
Skill Modifiers:
Anti-Personnel Devices & Traps
This skill line provides schematics and skill modifiers that allow the Ranger to set traps aimed at NPC humanoids as well as other player characters in a PvP setting. Traps can be placed on the ground and are visible to everyone (unless they are concealed using the Conceal Device skill). Traps have a limited life-span and will be removed from the game at the end of their lifespan. Also, only a limited number of traps may be placed in a given area. Traps may never be placed within city limits.
Concealed devices can be detected and disarmed with the Detect Camouflage and Disarm Device skills from the Pursuit & Countermeasures skill line.
Anti-Personnel devices are either detonated remotely, via timer or proximity trigger. Device bodies and triggers are combined in the inventory (drag & drop) to create a complete trap.
These traps are technologically advanced "smart" traps that can be programmed and shaped to deliver their payload in various ways. Once successfully triggered, a trap will deliver its payload to all attackable targets in the surrounding area. Traps can also be "shaped and targeted" at one specific person, using a Bio Signature Sample (see the Pursuit & Countermeasures line).
All trap bodies and triggers use the Anti-Personnel Traps skill modifier for both assembly and experimentation. Trap bodies have a "Power" experimentation line that determines the power of the trap effect. Triggers have an "Accuracy" experimentation line that determines the reliability of the trigger to detonate the trap.
Schematics:
Skill Modifiers:
Pursuit & Countermeasures
This line contains skills and schematics that aid the Ranger in ferreting out other Rangers as well as detecting and disarming anti-personnel devices. Detecting concealed persons/objects is determined by checking the conceal skill vs. the detect skill + a slight random factor to ensure that no conceal/detect is 100% certain.
Skills:
Schematics:
Bio sensor samples decay within a short amount of time. The length of time that a sample is preserved within the probe is determined by the crafting process.
well another game changing nerff. GOD i love SOE......
Arcadias
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:02 am
#2
omni38 wrote:
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well another game changing nerff. GOD i love SOE......
Uhmmm.... where?
StarDryfter
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:39 am
#4
Arcadias wrote:
omni38 wrote:
[...]
well another game changing nerff. GOD i love SOE......
Uhmmm.... where?
Sounds cool as heck for the "new ranger" but I believe the OP was just speaking of the ONE line of Force Cloak now in line with the new concealment portions of the game.
Pootle
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:43 am
#5
Also expect more and more BH's to have Ranger skills to detect cloakers as it seems that currently they have Explore 4 and Carbines 4 as the new pre-req for Ranger.
So in addition to the direct nerfs to Cloak you are now going to have a big number of BH's that can force Cloak to drop making it even more useless
cloudwalker1
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:03 am
#6
one of the devs stated that a ranger wont be able to detect cloakers, just other rangers and riflemen
Naeho
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:08 am
#7
Simple, just hunt on a planet that only Mrangers have the camo kits for 
Hence no BH ganking u, and if one does it'll mean they wont do much dmg
Hence no BH ganking u, and if one does it'll mean they wont do much dmg
Pootle
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:13 am
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cloudwalker1 wrote:
one of the devs stated that a ranger wont be able to detect cloakers, just other rangers and riflemen
have they? the last I saw was that Rangers are getting motion detecters that because they are machines the Jedi cannot mind trick them into thinking they are not there
Naeho
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:15 am
#9
Yeah but Cloak is a mind trick, the skills used by Ranger and riflemen arent they are just camoflage kinda.
least ranger will now have a purpose in PvP
least ranger will now have a purpose in PvP
Pootle
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:22 am
#10
Naeho wrote:
Yeah but Cloak is a mind trick, the skills used by Ranger and riflemen arent they are just camoflage kinda.
least ranger will now have a purpose in PvP
Yes I know Cloak is a mind trick as I put that in my previous post, also along with the fact that one mechanisism that Rangers will use to detect people is a motion detector which cannot be fooled by mind trick.
Motion Sensor Beacon: Set up in the world to alert the ranger of humanoid movement in an area. When used in conjunction with a bio signature sample, only the targeted humanoid will set off the beacon.
On the other hand tho the Jedi could use a mind trick to both fool the Ranger into thinking that we are not there along with mind tricking him into thinking that the motion detector is not reporting anything to him when it is.
You can look at it both ways really, but the more mind tricks a Jedi is doing would make it harder to maintain the illusion, so if they had to convince the Ranger of multiple things like being invisible, motion detector not displaying anything, motion detector's alarm not going off etc.... then there would be a chance that Cloak would fail
Message Edited by Pootle on 09-22-2005 01:24 PM
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