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Thread: My Suggestions for new POWERS Skills
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Soulcaster
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:10 am
#1
Since everyone is talking about having Force Cloak moved to the Master Powers box,I will take this into consideration and from that, suggest some new changes for Powers users. Here are my ideas:
*1st off, my idea calls for the implimentation of a NEW Powers Tree. Keep the current one and call it DARK FORCE POWERS, and create a new one that is LIGHT FORCE POWERS. Rebels can use ONLY Light Force Powers and Imperials can only use Dark Side Powers. Furthermore, i will throw out the idea that NEUTRAL Jedi will be able to learn from BOTH powers trees, however you need to choose faction to be in the FRS, so obviously only jedi not interested in the FRS will be allowed to remain neutral and have skills from both trees.
DARK FORCE POWERS TREE (the current powers tree):
Force Cloak: Moved to Master box (not my idea, just something going around the forums)
Force Drain: Located in x4xx (where cloak was) This skill allows the Jedi to steal Health AND/OR Force from another Jedi to replenish himself. My recommendations, maybe take 500 health and 200 Force away from the opposing jedi to replenish yourself. This will give powers users the ability to heal a tiny bit without the necessity of having to have HEALER in their template...but at the same time, still not as strong as having 4000 healer, of course.
LIGHT FORCE POWERS TREE (the new powers tree):
Force Cloak: This is also a Light Jedi skill, but is also in the Master Box.
Force Choke: Same as the dark side power, Master Powers Box Skill too
Force Sense (4000 branch): Perhaps this skill is unlocked at the 2000 level. This skill will allow Light Jedi to find out if a BH has his mission, as well as be able to determine which Jedi in the FRS is after him. The Jedi can use this skill once every 20 minutes, and it will ONLY reveal the BH or Jedi name if that mark is withing 100m of the Light Jedi using this skill.
I kind of just wung this idea out there. Not entirely sure how the new FRS and duel exploit will pan out in the future, but i thought this might be a cool light jedi skill.
Force Aura (Toggle On/Off): Perhaps learned at the NOVICE Light Force Power Box. This skill will enhance the CTRL L (player light) 10x. Making a remarkibly bright area around the jedi.
Jedi Mind Trick (0400 branch): This skill will put another player in a daze(makign them frozen). As well as make them instantly intimidated and stunned. Perhaps at the 0200 branch, this skill will have a 40% or 50%success rate, and frozen in place for 5 seconds while at the 0400 skill box this skill will have a 100% successful attack ratio, and a long cool-down timer, and will freeze a person for 10 seconds.This will ONLY be useable on other NON-Jedi, and an attack on the target will brake the daze. This skill is not as strong as stasis, but similar to paralyze from a CM.
Beast Control (0040 branch): This would be at the 0020 level. Not really sure if i like this skill, but i'll throw it out there. This will give the jedi to call upon a nearby animal to assist in an attack. This will take 1 of the nearest (within 100m) highest CL animals and will attack the target that is attacking the Jedi for 15 seconds. Will also have a long cooldown timer. But this could be handy while grinding and a BH rolls up with ur mission.
Force Pull (0040 branch also): This would be at the 0040 level (above beast control). This skill will work much like Disarming Shot from pistoleers. This skill will make a character not only not be able to shoot for 3 seconds...BUT this skill will disarm a player COMPLETLY. The character will have to go in the inventory and re-equip the weapon. This skills works much like some SW games, where u can pull pistols from stormtroopers hands, wielding it and thenusing it against them!Force Push (0004 branch): This entire branch will be the same as the current powers branch 0004. With Force Knockdown, etc.
My main line of thinking behind these Light Force Powers tree i created, is that Light Jedi are focused more on the defensive, and dark jedi powers are more of an offensive skill set. So Light Jedi sill have Force Choke at the master level (just like Luke used in the movies onthe gamorean guards), but the rest of the skills are focused more on defensive. Perhaps you guys can help me out with some more ideas?
I really just think that there should be *2* Powers trees...a light and dark jedi side. And I DONT think light jedi should have Force Lightning.
RebelArchAngel
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:12 am
#2
its supposed to be a dark side tree pretty much... but the light jedi get choke and we get only 2 abilities? we need no skill changing... nmaybe a little lower force cost or some extra damage but we dont need new skills or some removed
CabraofGorath
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:14 am
#3
and move lightning into dark powers and remove the self root and warm up timer.....NO CHOKE FOR LIGHT JEDI 
Soulcaster
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:16 am
#4
Luke used force choke. You have allow light jedi to use force choke. Its in the book and movies. Its one of those NEUTRAL skills...although i admit it seems pretty dark....
RebelArchAngel
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:27 am
#5
WHY THE HELL ISNT IT JUST ONE TYREE?!?!?!?!? u r totally gipping us... let every jedi have all the skills... come on man... i mean oh yea... i get cloak and another skill... grerat... i spent like 89 sp on 2 skills... yay for me!
Dbizzle5
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:29 am
#6
Soulcaster wrote:
Luke used force choke. You have allow light jedi to use force choke. Its in the book and movies. Its one of those NEUTRAL skills...although i admit it seems pretty dark....
Yep. The thing is Powers arent light nor dark it is who they are used by, and how they are used.
RebelArchAngel
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:31 am
#7
Dbizzle5 wrote:
Soulcaster wrote:
Luke used force choke. You have allow light jedi to use force choke. Its in the book and movies. Its one of those NEUTRAL skills...although i admit it seems pretty dark....
Yep. The thing is Powers arent light nor dark it is who they are used by, and how they are used.
thank u.. i couldnt find the words a minute ago
Soulcaster
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:35 am
#8
While thats true, i just think that there should be benefits and differences for being a light and dark jedi. Do you really want all jedi to have the same skills? Do you really want light jedi to use red sabers, black robes, and force lightning? There are distinguishing light and dark jedi skills in almost (if not) every SW game there is. Light jedi have certain skills, dark jedi have others. Even in the movies there is talk about light jedi never falling and learning the dark jedi powers. Clearly there are different skills, and i think there should be in the game as well.
I personally want some uniqueness in the game and i think it would be cool to impliment these new skill ideas. Im sick of seeing the above (light jedi looking and acting like dark jedi). I realize sure thats not everyong...but i just think there should be a distinct difference.
RebelArchAngel
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:36 am
#9
Soulcaster wrote:
While thats true, i just think that there should be benefits and differences for being a light and dark jedi. Do you really want all jedi to have the same skills? Do you really want light jedi to use red sabers, black robes, and force lightning? There are distinguishing light and dark jedi skills in almost (if not) every SW game there is. Light jedi have certain skills, dark jedi have others. Even in the movies there is talk about light jedi never falling and learning the dark jedi powers. Clearly there are different skills, and i think there should be in the game as well.
I personally want some uniqueness in the game and i think it would be cool to impliment these new skill ideas. Im sick of seeing the above (light jedi looking and acting like dark jedi). I realize sure thats not everyong...but i just think there should be a distinct difference.
all powers jedi shoudl yes... plz... this is not a good idea for all... its a nerf to imps and a advatange to rebs.. .stop plz... we r fine... we neee no skills taken or given
Soulcaster
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:38 am
#10
I REALLY dont see how you think this is a nerf for imp and an enhancement for rebels....
RebelArchAngel
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:47 am
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Soulcaster wrote:
I REALLY dont see how you think this is a nerf for imp and an enhancement for rebels....
impoerials have 2 specials... rebel have wat 10 or more...
sounds fair to me... /sarcasmoff
_Saevio_
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:54 am
#12
light jedi = healer
dark jedi = powers
This idea will never happen under the current skill-tree setup. If anything needs to happen to powers, it just needs a tune up. Some ideas that I've had about how powers can be a bit better that would really compliment some of the better powers skills and abilities. Force push for instance is a big one that should be in game, but isn't
xxx4 Powers :PsychokinesisI &III - Force Throw/Improved Force Throw should be changed to Force Push/Improved Force Push. Basicly these skills would literally push your target a calculated distance away from your character, obviously the improved version would push farther and have a higher probability to actually connect. Perhaps both skills could have a percentage chance to knockdown, slow down, dizzy or even stunyour target which would be a resulting state effect from the initial force push.
x4xx Powers : Subjugate I & III - I honestly don't know how effective Mind Blast really is but in my mind Powers, being of mosty dark jedi nature should have some kind of life siphon skill. So I would replace Mind Blast/Improved Mind Blast with Life Siphon/Improved Life Siphon. Basicly Life Siphon would take health away from the target while it heals you over time, so Life Siphon would almost work like an infusion. Improved Life Siphon would work more like a heal, instead of causing DOT to your target it would just do damage once, but substantially more damage than the original Life Siphon, and then it would return the damage stolen and heal your character, just like the original Life Siphon, however the improved version would be all at once instead of over time.
These are just a couple of initial changes I've been thinking of, as for moving Force Cloak to the master box.... hmm, it would seem many want that, but then what would go in it's place? Surely you have to have an ability in the tier 4 box, and since there's no original skill for that particular tier, I ask then what should replace it if it were to be moved. Also, it would seem force lightning may need some tweaking as well, as far as the force cost : damage ratio goes.
RebElimanter
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:26 am
#13
Even though i would rather see lower force cost and more damage i would like to see like advanced force lightning like vader adn the emporer have 6 bolts that would be nice to see =)
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