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Thread: We need to unchange somethings to SAVE the JEDI profession.

Srider_Killarney
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:36 pm
#1

check it out the more and more they make it hard for jedi to get vis and for BH to kill them the weaker our profession has gotten. It is a downward spiral and it is fed by the whining of our padawans. The devs listen to them and are not listing to the knights and older jedi. Vis and bounty hunters are a much needed thing for balancing the amount of jedi. It all started going down hill when they took away group teff, if a jedi attacks a bounty hunter then all in the group should be able to attack on both sides. This is called pvp and it is fun, so why take it out? Now we have lost group vis??? what is the fun in that you don't even have to sneak around anymore and keep your saber hidden from others. These things were put there for a reason, who said to change them??? We need to rethink this and stop giving into the whining paddies. We had it hard grinding our padawans no one had it harder then preCU jedi and group teff. Lets bring back group vis and hopefully group teff and we can better control the JEDI population and make it more fun to grind and be a jedi.



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Zodiac-B
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:45 pm
#2






Srider_Killarney wrote:

check it out the more and more they make it hard for jedi to get vis and for BH to kill them the weaker our profession has gotten. It is a downward spiral and it is fed by the whining of our padawans. The devs listen to them and are not listing to the knights and older jedi. Vis and bounty hunters are a much needed thing for balancing the amount of jedi. It all started going down hill when they took away group teff, if a jedi attacks a bounty hunter then all in the group should be able to attack on both sides. This is called pvp and it is fun, so why take it out? Now we have lost group vis??? what is the fun in that you don't even have to sneak around anymore and keep your saber hidden from others. These things were put there for a reason, who said to change them??? We need to rethink this and stop giving into the whining paddies. We had it hard grinding our padawans no one had it harder then preCU jedi and group teff. Lets bring back group vis and hopefully group teff and we can better control the JEDI population and make it more fun to grind and be a jedi.






I completely agree there needs to be more risk to receive more rewards, but obviously you haven't fought solo with a 187 max damage LS post-CU. Pre-CU with doc buffs, no problem. Took awhile, but no problem. Post-CU, the mobs regenerate faster than new paddies can hit them.


Bring back the Saber and RobeTEF. Allow Jedi to wear cloaks over our robes to conceal ourselves would be a good start. But us going out to solo is not an option Post-CUand therefore we cannot be forced to do so.


One more note. Saber / Robe TEF should only be enabled in static cities.

Message Edited by Zodiac-B on 09-17-2005 05:50 PM





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fouchin
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:48 pm
#3

i think something needs to be done about all these we used to have to walk up hill both ways in the snow jedi and balance this game. the way that sit and whine about how things used to be is just ruining the game for me. i could care less that things are no longer uber for you and your jedi. if you took up jedi to be uber in pvp and nothing else than you dont know what it means to be a jedi and you got it for the wrong reason.



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syykodisco
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:49 pm
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I bet that little mouse wheel in your head is smoking. Are you kidding? "Vis and bounty hunters are a much needed thing for balancing the amount of jedi". Once again are you kidding? This DOES NOT control the ammount of jedi, only the amount that are more powerful then another. If you want to"balance the amount ofjedi", give people other "A" class professions to pick from. To me this sounds like the typical make me more uber then anyone else post. Get over your self. I have played over 2 years, grinded holos, did the village... and I strongly disagree with your statements. Not everyone likes to PVP, not everyone thinks that it is fun. Oh and for your general information, there are no longer jedi knights, EVERYONE is a "paddie". It disgust me that my so could peirs are this ignorant.



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Nogginz
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:56 pm
#5


Hi there, a good post and a very valid point indeed. I would just like to say however that I am a Jedi of just less than three weeks old and almost finished my template. I am however all for group visibility that you were describing as well as the BH who can hunt me (and kill me). It brings great enjoyment to the game with the greater risk involved. please understand that I am a fairly Noobish Jedi but that is not my problem nor do I think that it is most post-cu Jedi problem. The problem I believe to be is the lack of decent pearls on the servers. I am telling you right now that the last 39 Krayt dargons that I killed (with friends) from the graveyard not one single pearl was looted (I have created a ticket regarding this so am yet waiting to find out if this is a big) I have however looted pearls elsewhere but proved very hard to find. Out of the 63 pearls I have tuned and 37 crystals the best I have got was a crystal that reached 99dmg and -3 force cost, another one was a 47 damage with -8 force cost. Do you see my point? I am all for your Jedi visibility and do think that pearls should not be easy to come by but at least possible, look at the 1230 + posts on Tiggs' thread regarding this and the number of ppl who have got the same problem as me, I shall copy and paste the post that I place on another thread;


"Mate, dont waste your time tuning these crap pearls/crystals that are post-CU. If you take a look at the +1230 posts on Tiggs' three paragraphs of lies stating that todays pearls are still posbbie to tune good, you will clearly see this is not the case. I myself have tuned over 63 post-cu pearls and about 37 crystals and not one of them was a decent tune. Likewise for the 1230+ ppl who left threads on the post regarding pearls from Tiggs.


Out of all those ppl would you not think that at least one person might have got a decent tune from all ofthe post-cu pearls they tuned ? if you want a decent saber either spend 200million in buying pre-cu pearls (oh, that are also conveniently bugged just now thanks to another bug) or build a timemachine and go back before CU and loot pearls then, at least they were possible to get.


Good luck, please read Tiggs' post and leave feedback, it is the only way the Devs will ever come to their senses. It aint fair that the max dps a post-cu Jedi can get is approx 380 while a BH can get approx 580dps. And yes I am saying that from first hand experience, I was a BH only 4 weeks ago and looted enhanced power cells every second day that had approx 184 damage and -8 SAC. This loot was easily obtainable and could/can be made into deadly weapons..... Alarm bells are ringing, please post and leave your thoughs, "




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Zodiac-B
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:02 pm
#6

My last statement about this. Fighting solo is boring and doesn't represent an "MMORPG" in any way shape or form. The whole reason for the CU was to re-introduce group fighting. Group vis is not coming back, nor should it ever. We're here to have fun (at least some of us). Think of what is the most fun for "everyone" and then introduce your ideas. Solo fighting is slow, boring, and makes people quit.





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Srider_Killarney
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:05 pm
#7

If you guys want to flame take it else where, please. I said nothing about making my jedi uber, my jedi is already uber. I am saying that it is more fun to be a jedi when it is hard to grind and bounty hunters are powerful. But my main point is every time the make jedi easyer to grind jedi lose power we get nurfed alittle more. We need to make jedi hard to grind, and of corse every paddy out there will argue to the death of this until he is done. But regardless it needs to be hard to grind a jedi. I am curently working on grind another jedi on bria, so don't tell me anything about since I am done now make it hard crap. plain and simple make jedi grind harder, and more PVP based. If you don't like PVP don't be a jedi becaus thats what a jedi is.



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seline
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:07 pm
#8

I'm not involved in pvp, I do not want more risks and I'm hella good and happy with my jedi..


You worry about yourselves.





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TraceAntilles
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:37 pm
#9

The Dev's play this game just like anyone else. If they can't manage situations, they nerf it.


I am not so sure anymore that they listen to complainers on this board.


I think they just can't stand to play the game they made.


They are the gods of this game and have the ability to change as they see fit.





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TheGreatFreyr
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:42 pm
#10

i say give jedi hit to creature modifier *like precu* and make it so we shouldn't grind in a group. and maybe keep changing how to get jedi or maybe change it and not tell anyone how to become jedi *like it was at the start of this game*



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P__Day
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:00 pm
#11






fouchin wrote:
i think something needs to be done about all these we used to have to walk up hill both ways in the snow jedi and balance this game. the way that sit and whine about how things used to be is just ruining the game for me. i could care less that things are no longer uber for you and your jedi. if you took up jedi to be uber in pvp and nothing else than you dont know what it means to be a jedi and you got it for the wrong reason.





i wanted jedi because of the risk and the reward, nothing else, i want both the risk and the reward back.
ThorianYork
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:16 pm
#12

Couldnt agree anymore




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