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Thread: pls read and think about it before you flame
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aniba
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:23 pm
#1
hello ill start this off by saying yes im a bh 
im not saying that you guys dont have some valid issues and yes some of you might call me a troll but you know what ive checked the forums every day for news on 2 items first is the ch item that gives you the boost in the cl of the creatures you can control nothing yet the other is the new carbine or bh rifle now there are many posts most report that a low stat version of the weapon is found i agree we need to look harder possibly the good one or a schematic is out there but ive seen many many many jedi trols there whining about saber stats ok i get it your sabers have lower stats on them and in the case it is everytime you whine about them your comparing the sabers to the bhs weapons that you fight ok heres where im sick of it and cant take any more just be HONEST about it posting 550-650 dmg with 150 or 200 elemental damage even vs the stats on a bhs rifle or carbine just isnt a very good comparison if your gonna whine about it then state all facts after you do armor break youll hit most bh for at least 900-1100 dmg possibly more while i can get a top of the line alr with 495-1184 dmg dmg pup it and im only doing about 300-500 dmg to the jedi depending on template now if you want to go further and say well bh can root jedi and stay out of their range yes that can happen but jedi has a better root than bh its called stasis i believe anyway the point here isnt to compair every bh ability throughout every template to jedi and all of their template possibilities but can you pls at least look at all the facts before posting about how bad you have it and hey if you wanna trade the whole dmg after armor numbers id be happy to accomodate you
im not saying that you guys dont have some valid issues and yes some of you might call me a troll but you know what ive checked the forums every day for news on 2 items first is the ch item that gives you the boost in the cl of the creatures you can control nothing yet the other is the new carbine or bh rifle now there are many posts most report that a low stat version of the weapon is found i agree we need to look harder possibly the good one or a schematic is out there but ive seen many many many jedi trols there whining about saber stats ok i get it your sabers have lower stats on them and in the case it is everytime you whine about them your comparing the sabers to the bhs weapons that you fight ok heres where im sick of it and cant take any more just be HONEST about it posting 550-650 dmg with 150 or 200 elemental damage even vs the stats on a bhs rifle or carbine just isnt a very good comparison if your gonna whine about it then state all facts after you do armor break youll hit most bh for at least 900-1100 dmg possibly more while i can get a top of the line alr with 495-1184 dmg dmg pup it and im only doing about 300-500 dmg to the jedi depending on template now if you want to go further and say well bh can root jedi and stay out of their range yes that can happen but jedi has a better root than bh its called stasis i believe anyway the point here isnt to compair every bh ability throughout every template to jedi and all of their template possibilities but can you pls at least look at all the facts before posting about how bad you have it and hey if you wanna trade the whole dmg after armor numbers id be happy to accomodate you
wickie
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:25 pm
#2
aniba wrote:
hello ill start this off by saying yes im a bh
youmightaswelljusttakethespacesoutbetweenthewordstoobecauseihavenoideawhatyoujustwrote
becauseihavenoideawhatyoujustwrote
OldBen1
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:30 pm
#4
wow did anyone else get that? 
not trying to be mean or anything but i really didnt understand what the argument was? could you rephrase it please?
not trying to be mean or anything but i really didnt understand what the argument was? could you rephrase it please?
maverickjones
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:32 pm
#5
actually jedi sabers have been lowered to whiffle bats since bh complained and losers in pvp whined.
you are right it isnt even compare a saber to a bh weapon, but alot of jedi were once bh or made their alts bh. so, we (majority) know what we used to do and can do. bh wepaons can do bout 1600 pts in 6 secs to a 333x defender...i know. my saber with AB and head hit(mls) did 840 dam. problem is ab stays for 25-30 secs and gone....your wep never dips in power. you kite at 65m we get 32m. you dabble we dabble. you food we food. it comes down to how your temp is built and for what purpose.
I think our sabers should have more block and more damage, maybe with new crystals and pearls well see.
otherwise, this complaint is old, old, old. you have beaten a dead horse bury it
you are right it isnt even compare a saber to a bh weapon, but alot of jedi were once bh or made their alts bh. so, we (majority) know what we used to do and can do. bh wepaons can do bout 1600 pts in 6 secs to a 333x defender...i know. my saber with AB and head hit(mls) did 840 dam. problem is ab stays for 25-30 secs and gone....your wep never dips in power. you kite at 65m we get 32m. you dabble we dabble. you food we food. it comes down to how your temp is built and for what purpose.
I think our sabers should have more block and more damage, maybe with new crystals and pearls well see.
otherwise, this complaint is old, old, old. you have beaten a dead horse bury it
Message Edited by maverickjones on 10-29-2005 12:32 AM
ghettochilde
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:36 pm
#6
aniba wrote:
hello ill start this off by saying yes im a bh
Ok ill respond to two of your points, that I could actually see.
Maybe the new BH carbine is dropping with as good of stats as it should, but BH's have several choices of weapons. Jedi have ONLY sabers, so if good pearls aren't dropping, we are screwed. We can't just switch to a different weapon with higher damage, we're stuck with what we have.
And Stasis is not a better root than BHs have, at least in the combat sense. You can root us from far away and continue to attack us. If we Stasis you, we cannot attack you because as soon as we do the Stasis breaks and you are free to move again.
Not intended to be a flame, just imparting some knowledge, hope that helps you understand those two issues a little better.
aniba
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:41 pm
#7
heres the deal im not complaining that bh have it hard against jedi my complaint is more along the lines of the beating of a dead horse im sick of seeing you jedi on the bh forums on a thread about a weapon im looking to find all saying that the craptastic version is just as good as your sabers are its not anybody who thinks it is = is an idiot plain and simple and if you wanna get into the whole situation and argue that its hard for jedi you just said what your saber does 840 dmg on a bh after armorbreak well its one of the lowest sabers ive seen in a while and of course you compared the bhs weapon against a non full template jedi its cool that all i get is full templates cause the last 16 were full templates # 17 was in a house and it was another 12 back before i saw another non full template but thats not the point against a full template with defender in it which 90% of jedi templates have my gun dmg puped after i eat foods does a mere 500 dmg tops more like 350 normaly so like i said in the post id trade after armor dmg anytime o and if you wanna flame my gun its 2.27 base speed 495-1184 dmg and 82 sac thats my alr my carbine is 1.91 base speed 434-1063 dmg and 73 sac if you dont know you simply cant buy better weapons
wickie
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:44 pm
#8
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aniba
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:45 pm
#9
yeah i see the stasis issue i didnt know that it broke on dmg most of the time its /stasis /cloak and /frs run but on the other point what im saying is even with your only goods crystals you r sabers do alot more dmg than the dmg capped weapons sliced and with a pup i know a guy who attained jedi about 4 days ago hes already got a 600 dps saber tuning only a few pearls 
aniba
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:47 pm
#10
wickie would you pls just shut up your the reason i havent gone jedi i mean for cryin out loud people are discussing game related issues could you not just spam stupid posts cause whatever stupid reason you have
OldBen1
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:49 pm
#11
okay please use periods. your friends either rich or lucky. and we dont all use sabers what about us power users. and what does it matter, who cares about what people are whinning about its not going to change anything in game just make you look foolish.
maverickjones
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:53 pm
#12
actually you ahve to tune **edit**loads of pearls and ass loads of crystals to get good stats.
""against a full template with defender in it which 90% of jedi templates have my gun dmg puped after i eat foods does a mere 500 dmg tops more like 350 normaly""
this is how it is supposed to be. a bh isnt supposed to take out a jedi like another non-jedi profession. never ever ever. becasue you and hundreds of other bh cant do it because of FULL TEMPs you would have our vuanted profession dumbed down to your level? hell no. work hard get a jedi and then make your alt into another BH. DONT go up against full temps or you will die, casue obviously you dotn know how to fight WITH YOUR bh very well or you wouldnt lose to jedi so much or quit and find another mark. there are bh out there can can and do go toe to toe with full temps and win occasionally. you are looking for an easy way out and u wont find it. jedi marks are pvp, so if dont liek or suck in pvp dotn take jedi missions.
""against a full template with defender in it which 90% of jedi templates have my gun dmg puped after i eat foods does a mere 500 dmg tops more like 350 normaly""
this is how it is supposed to be. a bh isnt supposed to take out a jedi like another non-jedi profession. never ever ever. becasue you and hundreds of other bh cant do it because of FULL TEMPs you would have our vuanted profession dumbed down to your level? hell no. work hard get a jedi and then make your alt into another BH. DONT go up against full temps or you will die, casue obviously you dotn know how to fight WITH YOUR bh very well or you wouldnt lose to jedi so much or quit and find another mark. there are bh out there can can and do go toe to toe with full temps and win occasionally. you are looking for an easy way out and u wont find it. jedi marks are pvp, so if dont liek or suck in pvp dotn take jedi missions.
OldBen1
Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:57 pm
#13
I have to disagree with improved infusion improved aura and improved armor i must say i get hit for about 800-1200 damage depensing on the weapon of course, now when i was mpow with no defender lets just say ouch lol. and not all of us have ab so u have to take that into account whoever started this post on the jedi forum even though you are complaining about jedi comming to your forums lol.
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