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Thread: Why do you have problems with mcm's

perfavorebasta
Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:06 am
#1

any Jedi with a good saber and root should kill a MCM/MBH...


I don't have root and I kill them fine. I think that you need 2 things.

1)good saber

2)good knowledge of your skills


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Glenstorm
Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:10 am
#2

im MDef/ Msl / 4400 healer.. no BH has ever killed me after CU one on one.. i did have a 2 hr fight with a really experienced MBH/CM.. never used a holo..



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MasterSad
Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:52 am
#3

Are you telling me you healed all the dots+damage and kept your force force pool for 2 hours AND managed to deal heavy specials to kill him? BS



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Ryle80
Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:58 am
#4

Never been killed by a cm/bh as of yet. But then you know that Orran

Root and fr1 make a huge diffrence against ranged fighters.




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Darkvenegence
Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:59 am
#5

some templates are built to beat them some arent,its as simple as that..not everyone who even knows how to use their template can beatan good MBH/MCMbecause they simply dont have the skills to do it



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Revealing
Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:00 am
#6

aye 2 hours of fighting and no lowering force bar until its empty is BS extreme.

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DarthLukey
Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:34 am
#7

it really depends if u have a good saber and if thebh/cm knows how to use his skills, i have run into about 4 of these and 3 of them went down easily because they just picked up that temp cos they heard they cantake down full temp jedi with it without really learning how to do it. The 4th one wasdifferent tho he knew what he was doing ihad to use1 holo and had tosupress/fr2 out and regen force atleast 3 times, in the end i fr2'd away andlogged because i couldnt beat him, he couldnt beat me and it was getting very boring



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Darkvenegence
Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:47 am
#8






DarthLukey wrote:
it really depends if u have a good saber and if thebh/cm knows how to use his skills, i have run into about 4 of these and 3 of them went down easily because they just picked up that temp cos they heard they cantake down full temp jedi with it without really learning how to do it. The 4th one wasdifferent tho he knew what he was doing ihad to use1 holo and had tosupress/fr2 out and regen force atleast 3 times, in the end i fr2'd away andlogged because i couldnt beat him, he couldnt beat me and it was getting very boring






i hope to god the devs do something to fix this glaring imbalance,i watched a fight between a jedi and a BH the other night and i swear it went on for over an hour,the CU was supposed to be fast paced and more engaging,i dont see how fighting someone till you die of boredom can be considered fast paced and more engaging


also jedi vs jedi fights are over in a fraction of the time,is it just me or is there something seriously wrong with this picture? a jedi vs jedi fight is over in a reasonable time but a jedi vs a normal proffesion goes on for hours because of the resists on the armor they use...messed up





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Willvas
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:00 am
#9






DarthLukey wrote:
it really depends if u have a good saber and if thebh/cm knows how to use his skills, i have run into about 4 of these and 3 of them went down easily because they just picked up that temp cos they heard they cantake down full temp jedi with it without really learning how to do it. The 4th one wasdifferent tho he knew what he was doing ihad to use1 holo and had tosupress/fr2 out and regen force atleast 3 times, in the end i fr2'd away andlogged because i couldnt beat him, he couldnt beat me and it was getting very boring





this is what most of us are talking about....and seems everbody keeps chanting the same old bs comments... " i have never been beat by a bh"


" you dont know your template"


"you are an ebay jedi"


"you suck at pvp"


I laugh at all these comments...


first off i have had my jedi longer then probably 90% of you... i do know how to play my jedi... i have had a template that has suited my playstyle post publish 9 and post cu.... it has always worked for me and if it didnt i usually changed it...


but what i highlighted in red is the USUAL case of the honest jedi or the ones who actually faced a bh who is experienced in pvp and have the best gear....


they will wear you down till you have NO FORCE LEFT....and they dont even need to be MCM...they just need the healing efficiency line...and paralyze....


somebody telling me they last 2 hours toa fight to a mcm and didnt run out of force... this is the biggest brag and joke i have ever heard on these forums... we all know for a fact... you are getting hit for 1500 by an awesome rifle... that is half your health and one of your heals....


you get a bh who is experienced... capped on his speed/accuracy... 8100 resist armor 1100 damage rifle or more.... you will see them hitting you over 1500 damage about every 2 to 3 seconds... lol funny about the guy who said well you just wear down their mind bar...


well your cm/bh's are stupid then... me personally im running low on mind... i paralyze you... i will sit down in front of you gaining my mind back....


and i will literally have a chat... for 30 seconds... get back up and you will die because I KNOW you are getting low on force from healing from my 1500 per shot on you... while you do a measly 400 to 500 damage on me...


idea waste your force power.... no force power=dead jedi....


and eat the right foods... you wont be seeing my mind go down so fast... i have explained this on the bh forums and here about what the best mind foods are....


bottom line if you have not been beaten by one of these guys or they made you run because there is no way you can... knowing you are gonna run out of force even after a holo pop... well then till then... dont come here saying well i havent been beaten.... beleive me i know.. i have killed many many bh's who have come for me... i am not doubting that... but once the bh population starts getting smart... we will see more and more unbeatable bh's





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Ryle80
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:08 am
#10



Willvas wrote:


DarthLukey wrote:
it really depends if u have a good saber and if thebh/cm knows how to use his skills, i have run into about 4 of these and 3 of them went down easily because they just picked up that temp cos they heard they cantake down full temp jedi with it without really learning how to do it. The 4th one wasdifferent tho he knew what he was doing ihad to use1 holo and had tosupress/fr2 out and regen force atleast 3 times, in the end i fr2'd away andlogged because i couldnt beat him, he couldnt beat me and it was getting very boring


this is what most of us are talking about....and seems everbody keeps chanting the same old bs comments... " i have never been beat by a bh"

" you dont know your template"

"you are an ebay jedi"

"you suck at pvp"

I laugh at all these comments...

first off i have had my jedi longer then probably 90% of you... i do know how to play my jedi... i have had a template that has suited my playstyle post publish 9 and post cu.... it has always worked for me and if it didnt i usually changed it...

but what i highlighted in red is the USUAL case of the honest jedi or the ones who actually faced a bh who is experienced in pvp and have the best gear....

they will wear you down till you have NO FORCE LEFT....and they dont even need to be MCM...they just need the healing efficiency line...and paralyze....

somebody telling me they last 2 hours toa fight to a mcm and didnt run out of force... this is the biggest brag and joke i have ever heard on these forums... we all know for a fact... you are getting hit for 1500 by an awesome rifle... that is half your health and one of your heals....

you get a bh who is experienced... capped on his speed/accuracy... 8100 resist armor 1100 damage rifle or more.... you will see them hitting you over 1500 damage about every 2 to 3 seconds... lol funny about the guy who said well you just wear down their mind bar...

well your cm/bh's are stupid then... me personally im running low on mind... i paralyze you... i will sit down in front of you gaining my mind back....

and i will literally have a chat... for 30 seconds... get back up and you will die because I KNOW you are getting low on force from healing from my 1500 per shot on you... while you do a measly 400 to 500 damage on me...

idea waste your force power.... no force power=dead jedi....

and eat the right foods... you wont be seeing my mind go down so fast... i have explained this on the bh forums and here about what the best mind foods are....

bottom line if you have not been beaten by one of these guys or they made you run because there is no way you can... knowing you are gonna run out of force even after a holo pop... well then till then... dont come here saying well i havent been beaten.... beleive me i know.. i have killed many many bh's who have come for me... i am not doubting that... but once the bh population starts getting smart... we will see more and more unbeatable bh's





Fact is i havent lost to a bh post-cu, cept for when i was pvping and a turret incapped me. A rifle hitting a jedi for 1500? Maybe with sniper shot or if the jedi is something like mls/mpowers/healer 4/0/4/0. Only one bh has ever given me problems, but even then i could of taken a holo if i had needed to, in the end i didnt need it and won with about 20% force left.




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-zoe-
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:20 am
#11

Biggest problem I have killing bounty hunters is the lag, when I would KD them then their body would slide 20-30m so instead of ripping them a new a-hole they are getting up by the time i get there.



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BooleScaric
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:21 am
#12






Glenstorm wrote:
im MDef/ Msl / 4400 healer.. no BH has ever killed me after CU one on one.. i did have a 2 hr fight with a really experienced MBH/CM.. never used a holo..





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TheNymon
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:22 am
#13

I have a Jedi and an MCM/BH. I am yet to lose toa Post-CU Saber and have beaten a lot of Pre-CU Sabers. Its not just the healing its the AB Sliced RIS loaded with +25 mods and the BE CM Enhancers. I tend to go for the mind and action drain, keep the burns/poisions on, also always keep the Jedi snared. The burns will tick between 300-400, it keeps the Jedi healing, which pops the mind.


Ruby Bilel helps keep my heals balanced against my mind. If things get messy, I use paralyse to catch a breather when the ticks drop.


Any saber over 650 damage its a tough fight. Over 700 and I generally lose. I find if I last the first 30 seconds, 9/10 times I win. Powers templates, so far have fought one, and lost to that though.





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