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Thread: MLS questions

jlutz11
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:40 pm
#1

I have been planning for a long time to make my temp MLS/Mdef, 003 Healer, and 0002 enhancer. Now that i have actually started the paddy trials, i am wondering if it is really that smart to get MLS.Would it be just as good to get 0044 or somthing like that? What are the benifits to MLS? I know you get saber block +25, you get more saber specials, but is there really any reason to get MLS?


The new temp im looking at is Mdef/Menhancer and 0404 or 0044 saber. or even possibly not getting saber and going with 4400 powers.


I know you guys are tired of answering temp. questions, but i could use some help deciding on weather or not to get MLS










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Venya
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:44 pm
#2

Speed and accuracy. And you get more Experimentation points to use on a saber.



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Ohopo
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:47 pm
#3


If you go ME/MDEF ls 0404 or 0044 you are screwed. No healing is pretty bad... if you JUST want to rely on AI then any ME can kill you




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jlutz11
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:49 pm
#4


i forgot to ask about this......



with pearl and crystal drops the way they are should that affect my decision to get MLS? Can you really have a good saber with the pearls and crystals that are in game now?


Those of you that are MLS...what kind of damage are you doing with your saber? I dont care about you guys with pre-CU sabers...we all know you have uber sabers. I'm interested in what kind of damage i could expect to do if i was MLS.



thanks











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jlutz11
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:51 pm
#5






Ohopo wrote:


If you go ME/MDEF ls 0404 or 0044 you are screwed. No healing is pretty bad... if you JUST want to rely on AI then any ME can kill you






with Mdef and ME I wouldnt think i would have to worry too much about healing. I will have great defense, channel, meditate, FA, and force run if i need to get away. This temp. seems like i could take a huge amount of damage and keep on going. Am i wrong?










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Ohopo
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:54 pm
#6






jlutz11 wrote:





Ohopo wrote:


If you go ME/MDEF ls 0404 or 0044 you are screwed. No healing is pretty bad... if you JUST want to rely on AI then any ME can kill you






with Mdef and ME I wouldnt think i would have to worry too much about healing. I will have great defense, channel, meditate, FA, and force run if i need to get away. This temp. seems like i could take a huge amount of damage and keep on going. Am i wrong?





in a big group duel, you will get drained pretty fast. in a 1 vs 1, you turn AI on, I stasis you, AI is 30 seconds long Stasis is 40. 1 power hit and you are gone. If wont work 1st time just rinse/repeat.




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Cyborg-Shoryuken
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:56 pm
#7

No matter how much defense you have these days, your healing ability is the determining factor. Lookat all of those reg. proffesion templates that can either hang or destroy most jedi templates, they all consist of either doc or CM.


Defense just makes it a little harder for you die, but you will die. Healing actually keeps you alive.





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Chris-DaMan
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:57 pm
#8






jlutz11 wrote:





Ohopo wrote:


If you go ME/MDEF ls 0404 or 0044 you are screwed. No healing is pretty bad... if you JUST want to rely on AI then any ME can kill you






with Mdef and ME I wouldnt think i would have to worry too much about healing. I will have great defense, channel, meditate, FA, and force run if i need to get away. This temp. seems like i could take a huge amount of damage and keep on going. Am i wrong?





youre wrong. no healing means no matter what, youre screwed. maybe with cloak or something you could get away but youll never win.


you really really need healing. and you really really should take aura.


and my personal advice would be. either go mls or master def, but not both. if you go both youll lack some important stuff always.


oh and if you go powers go master, cloak only or none in my opinion.


jlutz11
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:58 pm
#9

ok point taken.....


but back to my origional question. Is it worth getting MLS?










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Chris-DaMan
Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:02 pm
#10

in my opinion you cant really ask if its worth getting mls. it always depends on the template as a whole
Ohopo
Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:03 pm
#11

If you got a pre-cu saber (or at least pearls) and/or good skill tapes,then 0404 is enough,

If you got a crappy saber... then MLS is the only way to go man




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NHGLethos
Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:09 pm
#12

To be perfectly honest, to know what is good for you, it really helps to off played atleast half of the combat proffessions (if not all of them), ranged and melee to fully realise what kinda of role best suits you. Then only can you decide what kinda of jedi template works for you, and try build ones whichperformsthe same (or simular) role your (one of) favourite template does.


Jedi has become very close to the same abilities normal proffessions have, except a few unique... most which are in master boxes, so its i feel its important to pickup atleast a few of these abilities, which only jedi can get, otherwise the time spent getting to the final goal of full template is not worth it, for most.


It's your choice weither to go with unique or a "popular" template... one you will take time to learn, but could very well suprise your oponent(s) with unusual combinations of skills, or the other you know will work, but it might mean more will know ways to counter your effectiviness.


If it helps makes your decision easier, when i was re-deciding my jedi template a few months back, i used the character builder over at www.bloodfin.org and to the best of my knowledge itskept upto date quite regularily.




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HarlequinMK19
Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:28 pm
#13


Master Lightsaber =


-More speed and accuracy.


-More special attacks for chaining together combos. In the post-CU world, where high quality pearls and crystals are virtually non-existant, you're going to need all the damage output you can get.


-Better experimentation, which means a better saber.


-Advanced Saber Throw is a ranged knockdown...incredibly useful for dealing with all kinds of opponents, and it's actually pretty powerful too.


-Ability to land all states (not that they matter terribly much), as well as have two AoE attacks.


One of the above posters said it best. If you have a pre-CU saber or 4 pearls/crystals tuned to 110+ dmg/ -9 FC, you can get by with say, 0/4/0/4. The lack of accuracy and speed can be made up for with CA's. However, if you don't have access to the aforementioned items, and you want to be a saber-fighter, well, MLS would do you well.


Oh, and by the way, you NEED healing. ME/MDef may sound like a nice idea, but it doesn't work. If you can't heal, you'll die. Plain and simple.



Message Edited by HarlequinMK19 on 09-16-2005 06:46 PM



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