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Thread: Jedi Mind Pool

Soulcaster
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:11 pm
#1

So as a BH i notice the mind pool of the Jedi, just like I do when i PvP. I always try to wear down not only their force but their mind of course, and through lots of hunting i have noticed one obvious difference from jedi to jedi.


This difference is that on some jedi, their mind pool stays relatively high, while some jedi it drops as fast as a normal profession. And this isn't because i am hurting one more than the other, i fight the same and do the same dmg to the jedi that i am comparing here. It seems when some jedi heal, it takes down a lot of their mind, while some jedi it doesn't really at all.


So my question is, is there a skill or something that some jedi have that others dont that prevents their mind from going down so fast when healing? I have also noticed that even with my mind de-buff from CM some jedi still heal their mind so fast, its as if they were sitting down and i neve de-buffed them! What is up with that? How are some of these jedi healing their mind so fast, and others running out of mind right away?


...this seemed to boggle me for a bit, but i dont know a lot about jedi healing, so im asking you guys.



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Mfodish
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:17 pm
#2

We use stims to help us out. Infusion = 10% mind cost Heal: 5% mind cost. Thanks for the total experience devs.../sigh



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EvilAztec
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:17 pm
#3

It's really the same as any profession. Just like some people are good at PvP and some are not. Some people are good at managing HAM and some are not. I have a friend who buffs me and foods available. This, costing alot of credits, is the primary method of survival for many Jedi. Me? I just cloak and leave.



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IBeDaMaster
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:18 pm
#4

Few things. If a jedi is using stim packs they dont effect their mind at all(same with all other professions). If the guy has some really nice foods the debuff's dont effect as much. No there isnt a skill for mind regain and it is possible that anyone uses an exploit for mind regen. Personally my mind drops fast, 98 sac saber, and i always use spiced tea. *shrugs* who knows, all i know is it isnt just on jedi that this happens.



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wintersNight
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:53 pm
#5

if the jedi uses infusion, bad news for him. the better jedi use ruby stims and force heal when they must


I keep ruby bile right next to my stims and only use BoH and spiced tea as a drink. for the rest, i have 2 hot keys attached to different panes. one is for mcm the second is for regular bhs. I hit the hot key depending on the attack


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Soulcaster
Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:12 pm
#6


What is FORCE INFUSION, what skill branch is that under? 4000 of healer? Why do you all keep saying it is bad, whts it do?



And of course i know stims dont use mind, but it just seems that some jedi mind goes down faster than others. I guess they are what someone said, bad at PVP. I mean i know my mind goes down fast sometimes, but some of you jedi are heavy hitters so....




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perfavorebasta
Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:21 am
#7


Kryptis,

you are maybe using the same gun but the damage you are dealing can be very different from jedi to jedi. For example a defender will have more innate armor than a non defender.


In my experience mind is a problem only when I fight bad animals (giant krayts, katarn, Acklay) as I need to use /forceheal quite often.

Fighting a BH I almost never heal, the stimps and the infusion are enough. On the contrary I see the BH that is always on selfheling ...


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Soulcaster
Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:36 am
#8

no all the jedi i fought had defender in their temp. at least 0040. It doesn't really matter though. I just wanted to know if there was a mind regen skill or something



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Thorkahn
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:08 pm
#9

The jedi whose mind drains fast might also be using Channel.


This skill drains the brain big time.



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DianaPrince
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:12 pm
#10


Soulcaster wrote:
So as a BH i notice the mind pool of the Jedi, just like I do when i PvP. I always try to wear down not only their force but their mind of course, and through lots of hunting i have noticed one obvious difference from jedi to jedi.
This difference is that on some jedi, their mind pool stays relatively high, while some jedi it drops as fast as a normal profession. And this isn't because i am hurting one more than the other, i fight the same and do the same dmg to the jedi that i am comparing here. It seems when some jedi heal, it takes down a lot of their mind, while some jedi it doesn't really at all.
So my question is, is there a skill or something that some jedi have that others dont that prevents their mind from going down so fast when healing? I have also noticed that even with my mind de-buff from CM some jedi still heal their mind so fast, its as if they were sitting down and i neve de-buffed them! What is up with that? How are some of these jedi healing their mind so fast, and others running out of mind right away?
...this seemed to boggle me for a bit, but i dont know a lot about jedi healing, so im asking you guys.




No there isn't anything a JEDI can do to keep their mind up. Jedi truly have no skills available to them - they just get fancy names for the same abilities that a regular profession can pick up as well.

But I too have noticed the mind drop on Jedi, some never budge, some mind pools drop fast.

There are 2-3 things I have found when noticing this.

1) Species - some species have mind bonuses
2) Some Jedi would rather have the Regen from Pixie than Booster Blue that does mind. (Pixie takes from mind Regen and gives to Health)
3) How often the Jedi are healing. Defenders tend to heal a bit less, and Jedi with mixed Defender and no Force Armor tend to heal ALOT. Healing sucks a Jedi's mind just like it does a Doctor if not worse.

Next time pay attention to whether they are Zabrak or Human, etc and what spice they might be using and what their possible template is.



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EricAD
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:01 pm
#11

one is probably using force infusion which has a 12% mind cost and one is using a regular (1000-1500) heal which like an 8% ish mind costI think >_<. Plus saber moves also deduct a little mind from what ive noticed.




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Aaron_Oha
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:28 pm
#12

I have master defender. I usually use an aura and an infusion macro. my ham dont move and my minddont move.

the key is the personbeing forced to Heal + Attack cost are greator then they regain the pool. It is usually the mix they food buffs drug and equipment that they select. Most 1 on 1 encounters are settled before they begin unless someone gets bugged or makes a mistake.



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AxlerTwinblade
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:38 pm
#13

Well for me my mind is all dependant on the foods i am on. All the foods i eat are geared for mind regen by a guild Chef. so when fighting, a BH would see my mind dropping significantly if i wasnt on foods. however when i am on foods its capable of staying high and maintaining itself.


Special attacks also count alot here. when your fighting a jedi how much are they swinging at you? i ama MDEF and i have fought a few BH's where i can just sit there and chase them and not swing at all. They dont hurt me, and my mind obviously wont budge.


is there a skill in jedi for mind regen. Nope.



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