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Thread: Old Player jedi should have only the best

HanzoRegana
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:42 am
#105

Can no-one here come to an agreement of some sort?




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Noskaj
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:42 am
#106



freak88 wrote:
the biggest funnest part to me about jedi, was making your own saber. no 2 are the same. you get out of them what you put into them. so in this area the real hardcore players are going to have over 700 damage sabers. the whiners will have significantly less, and whining here wont change this .





So you're catergorizing all post cu jedi as 'whiners', and most pre cu jedi as 'real hardcore players'. I don't think you understand the issue.



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iskareot
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:42 am
#107






HanzoRegana wrote:


I think as a whole Pre-CU Jedi have had a way harder grind, but I think Lightsabers should keep some sort of balance.

In the films, would Jedi A's lightsaber cut through solid steel and Jedi B's lightsaber struggle with wood?






The big problem with some of this is that , It is one thing to nerf somthing before you even get it, it is different to nerf somthing you have had and been using over a year... (granted so many things come into play with this but still).


So that you guys know... I have tuned over 200 Pearls easy.... yes 200.. right now I have 75 still that I did not delete or throw out due to the fact at patch 9 they reset them... so in hopes of this again I kept these (non perfect tuned pearls)..


I have spent millions and alot of time with alot of risk trying to get them... I do not FEEL bad about it whatsoever and if anything Im proud I roughed it out and got them when I did not want to.


I think if there is one thing with Jedi that I can say as advice is that you always try to make the best out of a bad situation... it's almost a constant with Jedi to think that way.


(Look at it like this, be glad Decay is gone and Crit Fails on saber crafting is gone..(In the old Crit Fails YOU LOST THE ENITRE SABER AND THE PEARLS INSIDE IT) -- it was not a container you had to add Pearls like you add your refined crystals each gen).... Trust me nothing sucked worse then crafting a Saber and it going poof in the middle of crafting one.



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WarIllusionist
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:42 am
#108






HanzoRegana wrote:
Or this?




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iskareot
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:47 am
#109

And here is the real next big issue.. AT no way would it be smart for the Devs to drop them on the Dragons again...


Here is why..


I LIVE ON TAT...!~


Can you imagine if they brought them back right now?????


It would be utter chaos... in fact the server would crash and Tat would be a trainwreck... I hope they do not bring them back in the game right now just for that reason.


Im on Bria... if they did there would be no joke... 5000 people in the Krayt yards and kill stealing, faction vs faction and who knows what other crap...


Not to mention the server crashing.



(I would be more for the Devs dropping ONE flawless Pearl in every Jedi inventory... at this point then to bring a Mob back in the game like the Krayt that drops it..


Right now the issues that it would bring would be game breaking... no doubt about that.





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romanbeef
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:49 am
#110

Noone wants your sabers nerfed. At least I don't want them nerfed. I do, however feel that there should be an accessable way to get the items Post CU jedi need to make a saber that would allow them to survive a bit better.


My saber has 4 crystals in it that are all 83/83 in it.


not bad, not complaining about it. I make do.


It some folks, not all, feel that seperating jedi into pre and post classess are idiots.


I support what you have and i also support what some are unable to get as well.


As soon as we (as a whole profession) can band together, the sooner the nerfs will stop i think.





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Ihareo
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:56 am
#111






HanzoRegana wrote:
Can no-one here come to an agreement of some sort?






We could. But that would involve comprimise, and that's somthing too many people are unwilling to do.



The Old timers think they have a right to be better because they put in more work.


The newbies think the old timers should have their sabers nerfed so they won't be as powerfull.



What the old timers don't realize is that things change. It's nessecary.


What the newbies don't realize is that they too will eventually reach that same power level because it's somthing that comes only with time.



The old timers are angry because they had to slough through broken promises, XP loss, hell and a hand grenade only to be mediocre, and now that the mediocrity is leveled out, every one and their dog can get Jedi for a smile and a handshake.


The Newbies are angry because they have inherited this jumbled and disrespected messthanks tothe old timers a$$hole behavior.



We're all to blame for somthing, and we'd all be better off if we just agreed to disagree, and decided to work together as one.




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MickGrey
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:58 am
#112


iskareot wrote:

Why should I get nerfed because you think its "Ok" to take away all of that effort I used then?

Instead of worrying about what the Old Knights have... you should actully try worrying about what you have and trying to make it better... Nerfing us or wanting to take away my items I earned (In a time that it was hard and had risk mind you) is not going to get you anywhere and actully make this worse between our class.

What more of you newer Jedi should be worried about is how you can make YOUR Jedi better and do not concearn yourself with my pearls and saber..






OK guys, here's the deal: We're not asking for your pearls to be taken away or nerfed.

The above poster makes a good point... except I'm NOT hearing calls for nerfs (except from the haters of Jedi). What the post-CU Jedi are asking for is the same opportunities you had. Is that too much to ask for?

Instead, some (not all) of you pre-CU Jedi arguing that ONLY YOU are entitled to a weapon that's even remotely on par with a BH's. Furthermore, many posters (including this thread's OP) continue this argument to the point of insulting post-CU Jedi by calling them "ebayers" and other names.

If you want to keep your Premium Pearls in your pre-CU saber, fine. Keep them. I'm happy for you. But lumping all post-CU Jedi together in the same category and calling them ebayers/double-xpers/grenaders or other names really don't help advance your case.

The message subject "old player jedi should have only the best" could easily be misinterpreted by some as meaning "only old player jedi should have the best". And that's exactly what some of you have been saying on the Jedi forum lately. Can you see why we're upset now, especially in light of Tigg's post this week?



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iskareot
Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:18 am
#113






MickGrey wrote:




iskareot wrote:

Why should I get nerfed because you think its "Ok" to take away all of that effort I used then?

Instead of worrying about what the Old Knights have... you should actully try worrying about what you have and trying to make it better... Nerfing us or wanting to take away my items I earned (In a time that it was hard and had risk mind you) is not going to get you anywhere and actully make this worse between our class.


What more of you newer Jedi should be worried about is how you can make YOUR Jedi better and do not concearn yourself with my pearls and saber..









OK guys, here's the deal: We're not asking for your pearls to be taken away or nerfed.

The above poster makes a good point... except I'm NOT hearing calls for nerfs (except from the haters of Jedi). What the post-CU Jedi are asking for is the same opportunities you had. Is that too much to ask for?

Instead, some (not all) of you pre-CU Jedi arguing that ONLY YOU are entitled to a weapon that's even remotely on par with a BH's. Furthermore, many posters (including this thread's OP) continue this argument to the point of insulting post-CU Jedi by calling them "ebayers" and other names.

If you want to keep your Premium Pearls in your pre-CU saber, fine. Keep them. I'm happy for you. But lumping all post-CU Jedi together in the same category and calling them ebayers/double-xpers/grenaders or other names really don't help advance your case.

The message subject "old player jedi should have only the best" could easily be misinterpreted by some as meaning "only old player jedi should have the best". And that's exactly what some of you have been saying on the Jedi forum lately. Can you see why we're upset now, especially in light of Tigg's post this week?





Ok then I tell you what , if they had the same risk involved and cose factor then maybe it would work..


But right now taking down a Krayt is a Joke.. and what is worse is the mere fact if they did this (or gave this chance) Freaking Tat would be a wreck and we all know it.


Now its too late for all of this Jazz... Im actully more for them dropping a Flawless Pearl in every Jedi Inventory more so...so that it does not abrupt game play.


When you say the "Same opportunities you had", this has alot of baggage with it... so this can not be the same actully... due to the great CU... I mean you cannot put back in the risk.. or cost, or rare drops like that... (Waiting two hours for Krayts at one time even)-- could you imagine that right now???? omg.... what a wreck.


So this will not work... it's way past the safe mark now actully.


On Bria I swear we gained 2000 Jedi...in the two month time span with all the respec crap, if they were to activate the Dragons I would lose Tat as a home... no way would anything load in my house lol.


I think at this point we drop the Pearl issue and move on to getting things fixed THAT WE KNOW ARE in game.. skills , and function... then get loot fixed.. (at a time we have to cut the string and fix what we can vs fix a looted item)... For now.


Soon enough they will have a fix and the only safe one will be making sure premium crystals drop on all kinds of mobs vs Pearls on Krayts... having one mob dropping what 2500 people need per server is a crash waiting to happen.



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In the context of new development methods adopted within the past year by the studio responsible for Star Wars Galaxies, which a year ago saw several drastic changes to the game-world's overall experience, SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes."
iskareot
Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:20 am
#114

I also want to add that you guys talking to me right now in this thread are not morons..


We are having a civil discussion and as you can see this does not happen alot as of late...


I have been a cheerleader for Jedi longer then most of you have been Jedi and you may know this... it has been just as hard for me watching us go downthis road with this class -so at least with that said, know we may agree on that.



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In the context of new development methods adopted within the past year by the studio responsible for Star Wars Galaxies, which a year ago saw several drastic changes to the game-world's overall experience, SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes."
Atlas120
Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:30 am
#115







wackie wrote:


Has anyone check out the registered date on all these negative replys ... there all form 2005 lol ... i got the noobs angry... boo for me





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wackie
Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:36 am
#116

Stay on the subject, please..



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GeckoFighter
Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:17 am
#117






wackie wrote:

i saw a post about pre cu saber, Some are saying to nerf it, but if only the Noob jedi realize that we been thur hell with grinding and tuning pearls to only have the best, not to mention the 3 revampes we when thur also..


SO i say let the old jedi have alittle edge in the game..






its a nice thing to put out, and a new thing to hear deffinatly






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