Jedi Archive

Thread: Bounty Hunters are more powerful than post-CU Jedi can deal with.

Halae
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:14 am
#105


Nomikan wrote:

Every should have known this was coming... Jedi is way too easy to get and when they started removing the risks like pve death penalty the writing was on the wall. it will get worse very soon even the best jedi templates will be on a 1 to 1 standing with the elites.

Jedi will be rare and strong or weak and common we made our bed so now we have to lie in it or move on to another game ...





QFE, this is the only poster who seems to have an un-biased understanding of the situation at hand.

Jedi might have been meant to be stronger in the past, when they were the few, the elite. You could not achieve jedi simply by grinding bols for a couple weeks. I have vague memories of a time where there was no definitive guide to becoming a jedi. Those players were pioneers, they worked hard to discover the inner workings of becoming a jedi.

Fast foward a couple years later, patch after patch has made attaining jedi easier, there is even a step by step guide to becoming one. Comparatively with the old jedi, I would say you now have SOE holding your hand every step of the way towards knight.

Risk vs reward, perma death warranted a lot of power as to make the whole endeavour worthwhile. Now.. wheres the risk? You loose 180k exp, yet you can grind a Tier 4 box in mere hours. Little risk, little reward.

Realise that now at least a fifth of all players own a jedi account, along with their other crafter of MBH toons etc. Everyone who has played long enough will have made enough xp to become an initiate, some people take more time, some people(like I am) simply are not interested and stopped converting FS xp.

Choosing to grind more, faster, doesnt entilt you to anymore power than the others, if it did then trust me it would become Jedi Galaxies. The day SOE makes the jedi majority stronger than the non-jedi minority, there will be absolutely no point to playing any other profession.

You should all consider yourselves lucky to actually be allowed to play a Jedi in a MMORPG, albeit as a status symbol and not the PvP alpha-class most of you are asking for.



HALAE

*edited by admin after cease and desist from the Retard's association of america on the grounds that portraying a mentally challenged person as a jedi was an attack on their intelligence *
_Cicero_
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:32 am
#106

I will give a point to the previous poster, with one exception, many of us could grudgingly accept that were not the alpha but we will never accept that they have made the jedi weaker to balance the game in thier eyes. another poster said it well bring back premium and flawless pearls and that will make quite a difference and in my opinion the jedi tree's as a whole could use some minor revamping.
Sturdune
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:01 am
#107






eviltrandoshan04 wrote:



children children Dont patronize us moron


just because you are a jedi doesnt make you 1.5 times better than everyone else Just because you are a BH doesnt mean you should hold more potential than post-cu maxed mod full template padawan.


you have to understand your template completely and understand your tactics to be 1.5 times better
Tactics become irrelevant once limited by unsurmountable nerfs ( crystal drops)


just because you are jedi doesnt give you the right to have an I WIN button or be able to beat everyone because that is not how the game works,
You regurgitate phrases typical of a Bounty Hunter thart are pointless and irrelevant to the topic


this game wasnt made around jedi, just because you wanted to be a jedi doesnt mean us other people who dont have the time or dont want to should be gimped
Where does this statement come from? you are talking out of your azz....noone said anything to do with this .


that is all Good Stuff!


oh btw sturdone just because we are BH's on a jedi forum doesnt mean we get our own opinion? just because i feel like discussing my opinion to your topic doesnt make it trolling, not everyone is going to agree with you


and i think if you hate BHs so much DONT GET ON THE TERMINALS



Message Edited by eviltrandoshan04 on 09-28-2005 03:36 PM





Every person has an opinion. There are some with good opinions and bad opinions...some are right ...others hold opinions such as yours in this matter.I definitely dont require the likes of you to agree with me I dont think it is appropriate for BH to post in Jedi forumns at all....its like a conflict of interest holding the opininion of your enemy to any standard or value . Most of what you have said doesnt address the topic of the discussion .Please refrain from using my post as a personnalmedium for BH propaganda unless you are going to address the validity of what i have stated. You cant ignore or refute the truth even tho you try to be blind to it

Sturdune
Srider_Killarney
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:09 am
#108

wait till they fix saber speed then they will get owned



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NoviceRangerFlurry
Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:11 pm
#109






Teseus wrote:


I'd like to make a few statements.


Well, I think that SOE is trying to 'fix' the things again... Fix what? The great number of Jedis in game. Look, I am not criticizing the number of Jedis, but looking from an outside perspective, from someone who played since there was almost no Jedi around, its strange to have more Jedis in-game than Doctors, for example. Remember, the Jedi was suppose to be the high-end of this game. And now is very common.


So, the SOE is trying to fix that, transforming the Jedi in a normal profession. Not 1.5x tougher anymore, but possibly 0.9x.


They guy who started the post is correct, the maximun of a MBH is more powerfull than a maximun Jedi (full template pos-CU), or at least equal. Not 1.5x.


I repeat, I think SOE is trying to make Jedi a normal profession, in this way they can balance the game (at their eyes), since Jedi is not a special profession anyway (you can glow in 3 days any char, and can have your Jedi pretty soon, its not hard as in hologrind times).


Of course, its not a wise decision (in my opinion).









Jedi are the so call'ed Alpha class, making BH the second. This is really stupid, as the BH grind is nothing compared to the Jedi and as such making BH the second Alpha class also unbalances the game and destroys the many hours we put in to getting Jedi.


It took me months to get my Jedi, grinding post CU solo, there was a lot more roleplay. The CU caused the Jedi to be come as strong as any other toon and this has destroy much of the roleplay,you might ask why and that is that you can't go and kill stuff solo and lead the hermit life of the Jediin this time frame and as such retaining BH hunting of Jedi to make them less visable is a stupid as can be. Jedi are being forced to be more visable than ever before with them being forced into groups!


It took me a week to grind my BH and no I don't hunt Jedi, he has the most content in the game and that is without hunting Jedi and he's a dam'ed sight stronger and can solo ancients and stuff that my Jedi can't!


This is not balanced....






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Mad_Mick
Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:23 pm
#110

/sigh


ok


post cu jedi got it hard becouse of 2 things


crappy pearls


speed on sabres is borked


once these are fixed ull see a huge difference in your jedi


Neither of them issues got jack to do with bhs





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Sepultura2
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:52 pm
#111

my jedi is MD MLS 3-0-0-0 healing 0-0-0-2 enhancer

BH can barley damage me , i tak them easly , my DPS is 620 only

they cant stand against me for more then 3 min


what's your template guys ? and stats , DPS and so ?



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Venya
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:08 pm
#112

Well.... it beats having to deal with high powered LVAs, Powerhammers, potent DoTs, LS resistant PSGs, and being ganked by TKM or infact a small army before group TEFs were changed (though if you brought your own counter army...lol).



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