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Thread: A perfect way to (re)introduce all named color crystals and flawless pearls: Chu-Gon Dar Cube!

MasterGettingOnTerms
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:55 am
#105

very good idea



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TolaGarf2
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:57 am
#106

This does sound like a great idea I must admit. Only a few things about it that doesn't sit right.. It's basicly a complete ripoff from Diablo 2, and it would actually require the player to own Trials of Obi-Wan expansion in order to make use of this, which is rather unfair to those who do not wish to persue that. It should be available to everyone, no matter if they have expansions or not.





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Evilpoke
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:58 am
#107

Very nice, elaborate, yet simple way to make things interesting.



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JediMasterCarlito
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:58 am
#108



jihn wrote:


Glzmo wrote:

Jedi have been long asking for named color crystals of all colors so they won't be forced to choose between a crystal of the color they like or a crystal that does more elemental damage. They were hoping for the nice, blue Kenobi's Legacy color Crystal in the expansion named after Obi-Wan Kenobi, but got only a lava lamp-like crystal who's place in the Star Wars universe is disputed instead.
Another thing that Jedi have been asking for are krayt dragon pearls and crystals with all the quality ratings that were lootable pre-CU and the developers have stated that they were looking for a good way to reintroduce them to the game.
Also, Jedihave beenlacking real content, especially since the Force Ranking System has been removed.


+ There is a relatively simple solution to all these problems. As we know, the Chu-Gon Dar Cube can transform three items into one other item with the help of the Force. Seeing as it is using the Force to create items, it would be just logical if it would be able to produce things like Force crystals.

- Put 3 regular color crystals of the same color in the Chu-Gon Dar Cube to yield a named color crystal of the same color.
Possible recipes:
3x blue color crystal => Horn’s Future (blue named color crystal)
3x dark blue color crystal => Kenobi's Legacy (dark blue named color crystal)
3x light green color crystal => Kit’s Ferocity (light green named color crystal)
3x dark green color crystal => Qui-gon's Devotion (dark green named color crystal)
3x light purple color crystal => Bane’s Heart (pinkish purple named color crystal)
3x dark purple crystal => Windu's Guile (deep purple named color crystal)
3x red color crystal => Maul's Vengeance (red named color crystal)
3x dark red color crystal => Kun’s blood (dark red named color crystal)
3x yellow color crystal => B’nar’s Sacrifice (yellow named color crystal)
3x dark yellow color crystal => Ulic’s Redemption (dark yellow named color crystal)
3x orange yellow color crystal => Bondara’s Folly (orange named color crystal)
3x brown color crystal => Quintessence of the Force

- Put combinations of 3 different color crystals into the Chu-Gon Dar Cube to get named crystals of different color variations.
Possible recipes:
1x dark green crystal + 1x blue crystal + 1x dark blue crystal => Sunrider's Destiny (teal color crystal)
1x dark green crystal + 1x light green crystal + 1x blue crystal => Dawn of Dagobah (greenish-blue color crystal)
1x light purple crystal + 1x dark purple crystal + 1x blue crystal => Gallia’s Intuition (pink color crystal)
1x yellow color crystal + 1x dark yellow color crystal + 1x orange color crystal => Prowess of Plo Koon
1x light purple color crystal + 1x blue color crystal + 1x dark blue color crystal => Mundi’s Response
1x blue color crystal + 2x dark blue color crystal => Strength of Luminaria
2x blue color crystal + 1x dark blue color crystal => Baas’ Wisdom
(1x orange color crystal + 1x yellow color crystal + 1x red color crystal => Lava color crystal)

- Put three of a lower quality rating damage crystals into the Chu-Gon Dar Cube to get one of a higher quality rating.
Possible recipes:
3x fair damage crystal => good damage crystal
3x good damage crystal => quality damage crystal
3x quality damage crystal => select damage crystal
3x select damage crystal => premium damage crystal
3x premium damage crystal => flawless damage crystal

- Put three of a lower quality rating krayt dragon pearl into the Chu-Gon Dar Cube to get one of a higher quality rating.
Possible recipes:
3x fair krayt dragon pearl => good krayt dragon pearl
3x good krayt dragon pearl => quality krayt dragon pearl
3x quality krayt dragon pearl => select krayt dragon pearl
3x select krayt dragon pearl => premium krayt dragon pearl
3x premium krayt dragon pearl => flawless krayt dragon pearl

+ In addition to the aforementioned Chu-Gon Dar Cube recipes, change the certification requirement for all (former) FRS robes (they all have the sameskill modifiers anyway)to Jedi Padawan and allow Jedi to choose from a list of all models when meditating at a force shrine. This would finally allow Jedi to be more diverse, with an option of many different looks in addition to the looted cloaks that come with the expansion.

Granted,the abovewouldn't fixall theJedi issues, besides fixing the pearland crystal problem as well as providingmuch neededcontent.However,these little things could be done to let those devoted Jedi playersand those striving to be-long timeveteransand newer players alike - know you care about them as well as make them happy andkeep their loyality in the future.

Besides that, it would give all those Jedi and the ones striving to be Jedi a really good reason to get a Chu-Gon Dar Cube and thus buy the expansion, as well as keep them busy for a long time.

Message Edited by Glzmo on 10-21-2005 05:04 AM





not bad, but what about the ppl who wont have ToOW as the Chu-Gon Dar Cube isent tradable? No offence, i like ur idea, but if its not attainable for all the players without havin the expansion, i hope it never happens.



Actually that is the whole idea behind this as you can tell. You can't make a "business proposition" to a company for them to invest time in if it does not benefit them. Making a change like this would entice Jedi and potential Jedi to buy the expansion if they were on the fence about it. So from a business standpoint, it makes great sense.

This is definitely an idea I can back! Great job!




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KurttHalcyon
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:06 am
#109

I love this idea, and I'm not even a Jedi yet!!!


I think you'd have to make the Crystal/Pearl conversion a Jedi only function of the cube, because then you'd have everyone hunting for crystals and pearls to try and make money. Or, alternativley, you could make the finished Crystal/Pearl bio-linked (if thats possible).





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Lolindir
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:10 am
#110

Yet another great though out post by Glzmo. Love the idea.

And to you that say this isn't the right time to post this, why?
Just because very many of use are upset (me included) doesn't mean others have to stop thinking about how to make this game better.

This is actually the best time to post it! It will make us think of some thing else than all the "bad" things and think a little positive. It truly is needed...



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snipaho
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:13 am
#111

Awesome idea.



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THEsmuggla
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:17 am
#112

i hope Tiggs will read the post because this post is COnstructive, everyone AGREES, everyone behave in a good and polite manner

TheBrewer
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:49 am
#113


yup, great idea.

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keloch
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:54 am
#114



Glzmo wrote:

Jedi have been long asking for the currently unused color crystals of all colors named after famous Jedi masters so they won't be forced to choose between a crystal of the color they like or a crystal that does more elemental damage (regular color crystals add 25% elemental damage to the damage of the saber, while named color crystals like Sunrider's Destiny and Bane's Heart add 30% elemental damage to the damage of the saber). They were hoping for the nice, blue Kenobi's Legacy color Crystal in the expansion named after Obi-Wan Kenobi, but got only a lava lamp-like crystal who's place in the Star Wars universe is disputed instead.
Another thing that Jedi have been asking for are krayt dragon pearls and crystals with all the quality ratings that were lootable pre-CU and the developers have stated that they were looking for a good way to reintroduce them to the game.
Also, Jedi have been lacking real content, especially since the Force Ranking System has been removed.


+ There is a relatively simple solution to all these problems. As we know, Trials of Obi-Wan will introduce the Chu-Gon Dar Cube, which can transform three items into one other item with the help of the Force. Seeing as storyline-wise it is using the Force to create items via set recipes, it wouldn't be far fetched at all if it would also produce things like Force crystals.

- Put 3 regular color crystals (adding 25% elemental damage to the lightsaber) of the same color in the Chu-Gon Dar Cube to yield a named color crystal (adding 30% elemental damage to the lightsaber) of the same color.
Possible recipes:
3x blue color crystal => Horn’s Future (blue named color crystal)
3x dark blue color crystal => Kenobi's Legacy (dark blue named color crystal)
3x light green color crystal => Kit’s Ferocity (light green named color crystal)
3x dark green color crystal => Qui-gon's Devotion (dark green named color crystal)
3x light purple color crystal => Bane’s Heart (pinkish purple named color crystal, also lootable from Necrosis)
3x dark purple crystal => Windu's Guile (deep purple named color crystal)
3x red color crystal => Maul's Vengeance (red named color crystal)
3x dark red color crystal => Kun’s blood (dark red named color crystal)
3x yellow color crystal => B’nar’s Sacrifice (yellow named color crystal)
3x dark yellow color crystal => Ulic’s Redemption (dark yellow named color crystal)
3x orange yellow color crystal => Bondara’s Folly (orange named color crystal)
3x brown color crystal => Quintessence of the Force

- Put combinations of 3 different regular color crystals (adding 25% elemental damage to the lightsaber) into the Chu-Gon Dar Cube to get a named color crystals (adding 30% elemental damage to the lightsaber) of different color variations.
Possible recipes:
1x
dark green crystal + 1x blue crystal + 1x dark blue crystal => Sunrider's Destiny (teal color crystal, also a quest reward in Aurilia)
1x dark green crystal + 1x light green crystal + 1x blue crystal => Dawn of Dagobah (greenish-blue color crystal)
1x light purple crystal + 1x dark purple crystal + 1x blue crystal => Gallia’s Intuition (pink color crystal)
1x yellow color crystal + 1x dark yellow color crystal + 1x orange color crystal => Prowess of Plo Koon
1x light purple color crystal + 1x blue color crystal + 1x dark blue color crystal => Mundi’s Response
1x blue color crystal + 2x dark blue color crystal => Strength of Luminaria
2x blue color crystal + 1x dark blue color crystal => Baas’ Wisdom
(1x orange color crystal + 1x yellow color crystal + 1x red color crystal => Lava color crystal (also obtainable via quest/loot))

- Put three of a lower quality rating damage crystals into the Chu-Gon Dar Cube to get one of a higher quality rating.
Possible recipes:
3x fair damage crystal => good damage crystal
3x good damage crystal => quality damage crystal
3x quality damage crystal => select damage crystal
3x select damage crystal => premium damage crystal
3x premium damage crystal => flawless damage crystal

- Put three of a lower quality rating krayt dragon pearl into the Chu-Gon Dar Cube to get one of a higher quality rating.
Possible recipes:
3x
fair krayt dragon pearl => good krayt dragon pearl
3x good krayt dragon pearl => quality krayt dragon pearl
3x quality krayt dragon pearl => select krayt dragon pearl
3x select krayt dragon pearl => premium krayt dragon pearl
3x premium krayt dragon pearl => flawless krayt dragon pearl

+ In addition to the aforementioned Chu-Gon Dar Cube recipes, change the certification requirement for all (former) FRS robes (they all have the same skill modifiers anyway) to Jedi Padawan and allow Jedi to choose from a list of all models when meditating at a force shrine. This would finally allow Jedi to be more diverse, with an option of many different looks in addition to the looted cloaks that come with the expansion.

Granted, the above wouldn't fix all the Jedi issues, besides fixing the pearl and crystal problem as well as providing much needed content. However, these little things could be done to let those devoted Jedi players and those striving to be - long time veterans and newer players alike - know you care about them as well as make them happy and keep their loyality in the future.

Besides that, it would give all those Jedi and the ones striving to be Jedi a really good reason to get a Chu-Gon Dar Cube and thus buy the expansion, as well as keep them busy for a long time.

Positives:
+ Much needed content for Jedi, without detracting from the needs of the rest of the game or other profession at all
+ Choice of saber color without sacrificing competitiveness
+ Wonderful way to reintroduce premium and flawless pearls/crystals
+ Wonderful way to introduce all unused named color crystals
+ Diversity in appearance through free choice of Jedi robes and color crystals
+ Makes the game interesting
+ More accessible loot, yet still hard enough to collect
+ Puts and end to the ridiculous price gouging in auctions, thus improve the game's economy by deflating inflated prices to a tolerable level
+
Does unbalance Jedi compared to regular combat characters (as tests with perfect sabers on Testcenter2 during the TOOW beta have undeniably proven)

+ Makes players happy
+ Encourages Jedi players to stay with SWG (Here comes the money!)
+ Encourages Jedi players that weren't planning to buy the expansion to change their mind and buy it (Money talks!)

Message Edited by Glzmo on 10-21-2005 03:22 PM






the only problem with this is the jedi not wanting to buy ToOW, with this idea they will be forced to it..



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Sorotia
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:05 pm
#115

awesome idea would make me actually want to get toow right now im never gonna get it because i could care less about the cloaks or pos lava crystal.
eddytheone
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:12 pm
#116

/sign Man your a freakin genius!




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Zenirvana
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:23 pm
#117

Great idea. This is something I would get excited about. I am not looking forward to paying money for an expansion that has a lava saber in it. But I woud pay money for the chance to get my hands on a Kenobi's Legacy. I worked for a corporation for over seven years and found as long as the company is making money you don't matterand the moment someone who makes decisions finds a way to save or make money that doesn't include you you're gone. Which makes me wonder about SOE.The loyal paying customer has been here trying to voice their ideas for improvement for a long time now yet I never saw one post asking fo a lava saber?



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