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Thread: A Vision of a New and Improved Force Ranking System (FRS) updated 08/23/2005

DarkJediSarah
Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:47 am
#105

as another said where can i buy this game with this changes included


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RoakyLamu
Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:56 am
#106






Glzmo wrote:




























The following isa vision ofaNew and ImprovedForce Ranking System (FRS), that will make the now boring and unrewarding system fun, rewarding and thus desirable to participate in.It will also address concerns of non-Jedi players.


It is no secret that the current FRS is not enjoyable by any players, Jedi and non-Jedi alike - even frustrating for most. Itis even on the verge of completely ruining the Player vs. Player and Galactic Civil Warportion of Star Wars Galaxies, especiallyfor non-Jedi players, just like the Holocron Profession Grinding Madness of late 2003/first half of 2004 did with other parts of the game. Many may not realize it yet, but it may be the single greatest problem this game si facing right now. Simply put, it has to change, and that's what my vision is about.

Enoughof the facts, here comes the grand vision ofa New and Improved Force Ranking System (FRS):


1.Two seperate FRS Jedi factions,Light Jediand Dark Jedi that are notconnected to neither the Galactic Empire nor the Rebel Alliance.

+ This willprevent Force Ranked Jedi from being forced to take part inthe Galactic Civil War
+ It will be more in accord with the Star Wars Universe


2.Members of FRS Dark and Light Jedi factions are permanently attackableonlybyeach other.

+ This will keep Jedi fighting other Jedi, like it was always supposed to be


3. Pure FRS Jedi faction members are not attackable by non-Jedi Knight Rebels, Imperials or Neutrals.
+
This will allow roleplayers and true Jedi to hide and blend in with the crowd, which is not possible with the current perma-overt status.
+ It willpreventmost non-Jedifrom griefing Jedi


4. FRS Jedi cannot attack overts/coverts of Imperial, Rebel or Neutral faction.

+ This will stop the grief that overt playersexperience from constantly being mowed down by Jedi

+ It willreduce Jedi squads in cities looking for overts

+ It will keep Jedi from 'ruining PVP of other players', which is aserious complaint by the non-Jedi community


5.FRS Jedi can still be attacked by Bounty Hunters with missions on them,just like non-FRS Jedi.The higher the Jedi's PVP rating, the higher level the mission, the higher the payout and the higher the PVP ratingrequired by the Bounty Hunter.

+ Only high-level Bounty Hunters will be able to hunt high-level Jedi

+ Only low-level Bounty Hunters will be able to hunt low-level Jedi


6.FRS Jediwill not loose Jedi XP, only FRS XP.

+ This will make it possible to change the template down the road, once the Jedi is bored with his/her current template


7.If a Jedi decides to join aGalactic Civil War(GCW) faction like the Galactic Empire or the Rebel Alliance, he or shewillsuffer massiveJedi XPand Force Ranked XP loss for each death, perhaps even drop down to rank 0 of the FRS, drop out of the GCW faction and instantly have -5000 Faction points for both GCW factions.

+ This will allow Jedi to participate in the GCW

+ Due to the great risk involved to choose a side in the GCW, only few if any Jedi will be doing this

+Dropping out of the GCW and instantly getting -5000 on both GCW factions aftereach GCW death will keep Jedi from re-entering the GCW for some time
+ Due to their rarity, Jedi involved in the GCW will be a pleasant sight


8.FRS Maintenance cost should be lowered and FRS XP gained forincapacitating a Jedi of the opposing side dramatically increased.

+ This would make it morepossible to gain ranks

+ There would only be a need to defeat a few of opposing Jedi a day, not tons


9.Very small amounts of FRS XP will also be gained by incapacitatingother same-factioned Jedi in friendly training duels, with a fixed limit of maximum FRS XP gained from training that can be reached a day.

+This would make training duels fun and a challenge with a small reward

+The maximum training FRS XP cap would prevent exploiting this


10.There will be alternative, non-violentways to gain limited FRS XP each day (for light Jedi at least), that should bealmost enough tomaintain a lower-mid rank, like meditating, missions from an NPC in the enclave that can be solved in both a violent or non-violent manner (negotiations at disputes, for example or special versions of instanced dungeons like the Corvette for groups of Jedi down the road).

+ This will allow FRS Jedi to take a fun break from PVP to advance or keep their rank


11.Another way to gain FRS XP will be to train a Padawan. A Jedi Knight will get the ability to craft a Padawan braid. This braid will be traded to a lower-ranked Jedi. Usinga modifiedinterface used for marriage, thelower rankedmay now accept the braid to be assignedto theJedi Knightas a Padawan.Now thePadawan and Master hunting and training together will increase the Jedi XP output for both parties by an additional 20%. Also, the Master will gain 1% of the Jedi XP the Padawan gains while hunting together as FRS XP. In addition, for every skill theMaster trains his Padawan in, he willgetagood amount of FRS Experience.
The Master/Padawan relationship ends when the Padawan reaches Knight status on his own, the Master ends the relationship with a /releasepadawan command, the Padawan destroys his Padawan braid in the inventory or if the Padawankills the Master in a duel.
+
This will enforce the Master/Padawan relationship that is an essential part of Jedi in all Star Wars movies to date

+ It willbe a greatcontent and encouragementforroleplay


12.Jedi will have the ability to keep and actually wear all styles of Jedi Robes that they have everreceived in the FRS, even if they drop in rank or drop out of the FRS System altogether.

+ Thiswillmake itdesireable to reach every rank at least once.
+ It willgive Jedi that have put effort in the FRS something to show for


13.
All visible modifiers from the robes should be moved to the Padawan box. Special hidden modifiers should bemoved to the rank boxes, if there are any.
+
Thiswill makeJedi robesall the same and thusnegate allreasons to notimplement section 12.

+ It will allow Jedi to wear other clothing without sacrificing anything


14.FRS Jedi will get other rewards that can be bought for FRS XP at a NPC Jedi Master,like tradable Jedi-specific furniture (Statues of famous Jedi, Holocrons, Books with tales of Jedi that can actually be read and contain an interesting short story each), housing (a 1-lot, no maintenance cost very small house placeable on all planets with, even with a minimum of 1km from each other where you can't build now, looking like Yoda's hut), Clothing (Cloaks, hoods for the cloaks, rings, Jedi pendants that can actually be seen,that all give boosts to Jedi toughness or other Jedi-specific stats and can be worn over the robes), Special crystals (like the ones on Testcenter that are color/damage crystal hybrids), new Lightsaber hilt styles.

+ Rewards are always a good thing to keep people playing, especially if they are actually useful
+ It will provide great perks for collectors, roleplayers and powergamers alike


15. Jedi will keep their Knight, Guardian and Master boxes as well as titles, even if they drop in rank or exit the FRS.

+ Again, this will be a permanent reward for people who have put time and effort in achieving high ranks in the FRS

+ It will encourage people to aquire a high (if not thehighest)FRS rank at least once
+It is illogical to loose these boxes and titles


16.Being a Knight will give Jedi alarge boost inall Jedi skill modifiersacross the board,the samegoes forGuardian and Master.

+ This will make these boxes worth achieving
+It will reward people that put effort in becoming a Knight, Guardian or Master by making them noticeably better than a Padawan, or the respective lower Jedi rank, just as itis supposed to be.

Message Edited by Glzmo on 08-07-2004 09:28 AM





Cool, I posted similar stuff in Arjuns feedback thread but you have obviousely put more thought and effort in than I have



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Gaffacas
Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:03 am
#107

This is a GREAT idea!

Why dont we have devswithideas likeyou Glzmo ????


Read this post Devs and learn something



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Avengre
Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:11 am
#108

I'm a non jedi, and i must say Bravo. I hope they heed this, it would make Starwars galaxies just that much closer to actually being "Star Wars"



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bcasey03
Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:27 am
#109

It just pisses me of that the entire Dev team doesn't have half the creativity this one person does.



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JutMan
Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:39 am
#110

Keep it up! Follow the Arjun thread my man! Make a few edits and the DEV's i pray will impliment 90% of what you have here. The thought you put into this is right in line with what the users want and the Jedi want.

Again incredible job!

/cheer

Message Edited by JutMan on 08-11-2004 07:36 PM



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JediMasterCarlito
Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:26 am
#111

I'm 100% behind your proposal.


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Glzmo
Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:35 pm
#112

Thanks for the great feedback, everyone! Keep it coming



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JutMan
Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:31 am
#113

I think we all are hoping the same thing.. Could you post the content under the "fix the jedi" thread if not done so already.



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Glzmo
Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:17 am
#114

Early morning send to the first page.



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SithSaberMaster
Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:43 am
#115

Alot of great idea's, Arjun should sticky this one.



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JutMan
Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:53 am
#116

Afternoon shameless /bump



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sysfailur2
Fri Aug 13, 2004 1:42 pm
#117

Don't like your faction ideas at all... sorry, I got my Jedi to fight along side other Imperials in PVP.



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