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Thread: How Many Vets Will Quit If Their Pearls Get Nerfed?

mauvros
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:49 pm
#92






Adefo-Oami wrote:





mauvros wrote:





Adefo-Oami wrote:









I think you need to come off your high horse and listen up about OUR problems. We don't get to hunt for PREMIUMS, we hunt for GOODS, 3 levels below prem. people pay 15 mil for one premium now. I'm well aware of what you had to deal with. but this is the now, that was the then. I've been around in this game just as long as you buddy.



I unlocked July 4th of this year, and i'm not even halfway done my temp yet. I do NOT have a respec, nor have I ever used one in my grind. I've been killing sh!t just like anyone else.



I know the in's and out's of this proffesion. So I think you just need to take a warm cup of shut the hell up.







...and I feel for you new Jedi. I really do. But your fight is with SOE, not Pre-CU Jedi. The moment you turn your frustration to me because you dont have what I have due to SOE is when I get on my high horse.



I think you need a cold cup of leave MY pearls alone!!








I'm turning my frustration to you due to you being an ass to hundreds of people. So I unlocked post-cu...sue me.



I also feel for you, butthings haven't even happened yet, and your freaking out and making threats to quit.



I think that ALL jedi need to stick together, not make a treehouse and put up a sign that says pre-cu jedi only








MY days for wishing for just that have come and gone. This is the Jedi world we live in. Me vs You. Pre vs Post. That is until the both of us completely destroy the game.



United we stand Divided we get nerfed because were to busy fighting each other and not SOE.


MY POINT EXACTLY. Your fight is with SOE, Not people who have what you want. Its a childish game to try to take away from someone else exactly what you want because you cant have it.



MsNiL
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:52 pm
#93





Skwall wrote:


Ok, we can all agree that SOE should allow Premiums drop in about 1/50 or 1/100. That works right? Obviously SOE hasn't re-introduced pearls because that is their way of population control. Times have changed for jedi and now, so has the droprate, they'll get it figured out and implement them in time.


That or we can all get nerfed down to the power of "noob sabers" and jedi can suck as a whole. Because you guys are being really naive if you think that SOE will allow everyone and their mom to acquire sabers to that of pre-CU jedi.



1/10 for both.


Becouse even finding an ancient is tough as h, and tuning it into a perfect tune is even more rare, and you need a good group to do it. Finding a premium do not ensure a good tune at all.


A maxed out lightsaber is not cooler than a regular powerhammer made out of currently dropped components.


So a 1/100... well, then a flawless should be able to get beyond +200 damage... jeez. Talk about impossible to find one.




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MsNiL
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:54 pm
#94







mauvros wrote:

Who fought for us during Perma Death? The people who were killing us??? HARDLY!!
You want the real irony? Jedi fight Jedi and the entire profession goes to $hit. Now thats Irony.




Who cares. Have nothing to do with Jedi nerfing themselves now.


You have two vote's:

A) Fix

B) Nerf (default)


There are no third "Let me keep and nerf the rest".


If you vote that it will default to B.



Only YOU can fight the saber nerf.

Message Edited by MsNiL on 09-23-2005 02:56 AM



--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
magneto2
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:59 pm
#95

its not a saber nerf, its fixing a broke system that doesnt go along with the CU




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mindspat
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:22 pm
#96






MsNiL wrote:







mauvros wrote:

Who fought for us during Perma Death? The people who were killing us??? HARDLY!!
You want the real irony? Jedi fight Jedi and the entire profession goes to $hit. Now thats Irony.




Who cares. Have nothing to do with Jedi nerfing themselves now.


You have two vote's:

A) Fix

B) Nerf (default)


There are no third "Let me keep and nerf the rest".


If you vote that it will default to B.



Only YOU can fight the saber nerf.






What amazes me is how everyoen has their sisters panies in a bunch and they _ HAVE NO CLUE WHAT TO EXPECT!!!


You panzies don't even know what's instore yet you're all whimpering like little brats. In all respect, it will be good to see the forums cleaned up after the children go back to school and stop posting their fits.


I welcome a remke on the build of saber crafting, I would quit the game if it's not implemented.


Also, I AM pre-cu unlock and have decent tunnings. Most perfect saber yeidling Jedi comment 'cs I hit harder then them. It's skill and timing.


Learn how to play or loose and quit.


p.s. if you loose, I'll still let you play with me to learn




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mindspat
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:23 pm
#97






magneto2 wrote:
its not a saber nerf, its fixing a broke system that doesnt go along with the CU






Golly gee, he got it!!!


I wonder if anyone else is able to understad this...?






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Skwall
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:46 am
#98






Jeubac wrote:






Skwall wrote:





Jedi-15 wrote:

first off, i'm a Pre-Pub 9, and i have a very nice saber. that said,


if i'm not mistaken...even with MLS and capped clothing a pre-cu saber will only reach around 750 dps (+/-). I've seen rifles with 1000 dps. What really needs to happen is they need to bring prems back and improve the tunes. To an extent i agree that most post-cu jedi have had the profession given to them but hey, it's soe's **Mod Bot Be-Nice**


enjoy





DPS means nothing, a jedi w/ 700+ damage on their saber will mow down any BH trotting around w/ a rifle, and even then rifles don't reach 1000+ DPS, just 1000+ damage.





Ummmmmmmm dunno what you are talking about. When a MBH/MCM comes at you and slings thyroid rupture/paralyze/fire onto you within a matter of 5 secs and TOTALLY stops all movement by you for 15-30 secs, I don't think you can call that "mowing them down". Even with MDEF the fight can last 20-30 mins (if the jedi is wise enough to carry a holo with them) and then they only have a 50/50 shot at victory.


To say that Jedi with 700+ dmg sabers are killing machines is absurd. NERF the pearls...sure...go ahead. Then look for more NERFS to your precious CM's to follow soon.






I guess I just fight cruddy BHs then...../shrug.


Sure the Dots/Paralyze prolong the fight for the duration of it, but after that, all hell breaks lose



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Skwall
Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:32 am
#99







Duskya wrote:
yea this is what the jedi community is all about now a days. pre cu guys who curse at newbies. this is ridiculous





wrong, more like post-CU jedi nerfing pre-CU jedi.


the same jedi that don't want FRS to be PVP, the same jedi that don't want XP loss, the same jedi that don't.....come in here and think they can change the way things work....



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Tarjan33
Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:33 am
#100

Nerfing old pearls in game is a typical shortcut wich will only come back to haunt the coders later it dont fix any of the problems with sabers speeds etc



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Duskya
Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:35 am
#101






Skwall wrote:







Duskya wrote:
yea this is what the jedi community is all about now a days. pre cu guys who curse at newbies. this is ridiculous





wrong, more like post-CU jedi nerfing pre-CU jedi.


the same jedi that don't want FRS to be PVP, the same jedi that don't want XP loss, the same jedi that don't.....come in here and think they can change the way things work....




yea thats what ur stating out of a few not all post cu are like that i have many post cu jedi friends who work very hard to keep their sabers up to come even close to what i have




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master_finesse
Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:18 am
#102

Holocron grinding was a joke and you know it. The current Jedi system is much harder and time intensive. I've done both so don't try to convince me. Most crafting professions were done AFK. A good amount of the combat was done the same way. The same was true of jedi XP earned. Now a few weeks of double XP is an exception but with the current combat conversion it feels hopeless grinding a jedi.
-Light-
Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:32 am
#103



All Jedi in the Guild that I'm in have access to Server Best Resources and 2 x 12pt Suits, this is to enable our Padawans to have that slight advantage.


We also have implemented a Guild wide Pearl/Crytal Efficency system which allows all Guild members to see what level Efficency (out of 100%) each members sabers are, which strips out skill levels and tapes.


All Guild members no matter what level leave all looted Crystals/Pearls to help members. As they know when they reach Initiate they will inturn get as much help.


We now have Pre CU Jedi Knights with sabers which are not as good as Post CU Padawans.


So it can be done, you just need to get organised and put as much effort into looting and developing a system as everyone on these boards puts into moaning!

Message Edited by -Light- on 09-23-2005 11:37 AM



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paolo_ikro
Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:46 am
#104

I have read lots of peoples posts about this, and my take on it is this...


Leave the Tuned Pearls as they are, and wait for the Pearls to start dropping again. It's that simple, there is no reason to call nerf on each other. If my pearls were nerfed as a result of our community calling for it, I would probably quit, not because of them being nerfed by SOE, but because the Jedi community called for it. What we actually need here is solidarity.


Yes us Pre CU Jedi had it hard, we had XP loss on death, solo grinding, poor resources, VIS from group members etc. We had to hunt for pearls, and I can honestly say I never once managed to get a flawless pearl. I tuned hundreds of premiums, for about 5 decent ones. I took 5 months to get my template done, but that was how it was, and that was my choice - that was my hardship


Now, I understand that Post CU Jedi also have had it hard, lack of decent pearls/crystals amongst other things, the inability to grind solo, the problem with all pearls/crystals, not being on average better than 'good' - this is your hardship. (sorry if I haven't highlighted any other issues)


Both types of Jedi have had it hard, but in different ways


However, you have also managed to get some of the things granted that we strove to get...loss of XP from non BH death removed, the ability to grind in groups without VIS and so on, and for that I congratulate you for it . The problem is this, while you all have had it hard, why do you wish to bring us pre CU down to the same level that you are currentlyin? Shouldn't you/we be asking to have the same benefits that we had in terms of pearls/crystals?


We have, and once the pearl drop is fixed, we will all be in a much better place. It's not long til the problem is fixed (fingers crossed), why not just make the best of what we have for now.


Let's stop nerfing our own profession, we should be much more unified in trying to make the profession better than it currently is. We have problems with Pearls, we have problems with the Enhancer/Healer/Powers trees. We should be asking for this to be fixed, not asking for what little working things we have left, to be nerfed.


Let's try and stick together




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