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Thread: JEDI ARE UBER

Crash752
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:30 am
#92






lovisa wrote:





Crash752 wrote:


LOL. Anypistoleer would sell their soul for a PSG bypassed 600+min damage weaponwith 200+ elemental damage that is unmitigated by defenses. You don't even have a clue how damage works in this game.








agree with you there


i allways get agged if i help mates grind even if they have nice wepons like capped dmg and such







The thing people have to remember with your lightsaber damage is that it is for PVP and high end PVE. A capped damage rifle will most likely outdamage you in low level PVE fighting. But in high end PVE and PVP that rifles damage gets mitigated down to the min damage. Jedi sabers have close damage ranges and also the highest elemental damage (which is unmitigated by ranged/melee defenses).





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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:33 am
#93






jobothehobbit wrote:

yeah right, Mdef/MLS and took on an avatar guard CL82 in a starport, used a 698 mx damage saber, AB KD and the usual attacks and a 2 month old BH comes in and was able to outdamage me and my UBER Saber. The BH had a Sac and Damage capped scatter pistol and just wasted the guard, granted he couldn't tank it but the point is Swordsman and ARfilemen are supposed to be the Nuke class and I got outdamaged by a BH against an NPC. How about at least giving us teh damage that most others proffs are cpabale of.

Joe





Now I'm totally with you in saying that some Jedi disciplines need serious help, but keep in mind....



BH's are supposed to be a tank class and he couldn't tank the mob.





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lovisa
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:35 am
#94






Crash752 wrote:





lovisa wrote:





Crash752 wrote:


LOL. Anypistoleer would sell their soul for a PSG bypassed 600+min damage weaponwith 200+ elemental damage that is unmitigated by defenses. You don't even have a clue how damage works in this game.








agree with you there


i allways get agged if i help mates grind even if they have nice wepons like capped dmg and such







The thing people have to remember with your lightsaber damage is that it is for PVP and high end PVE. A capped damage rifle will most likely outdamage you in low level PVE fighting. But in high end PVE and PVP that rifles damage gets mitigated down to the min damage. Jedi sabers have close damage ranges and also the highest elemental damage (which is unmitigated by ranged/melee defenses).







offcourse it is like that



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WookieOgre
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:44 am
#95






Crash752 wrote:





lovisa wrote:





Crash752 wrote:


LOL. Anypistoleer would sell their soul for a PSG bypassed 600+min damage weaponwith 200+ elemental damage that is unmitigated by defenses. You don't even have a clue how damage works in this game.








agree with you there


i allways get agged if i help mates grind even if they have nice wepons like capped dmg and such







The thing people have to remember with your lightsaber damage is that it is for PVP and high end PVE. A capped damage rifle will most likely outdamage you in low level PVE fighting. But in high end PVE and PVP that rifles damage gets mitigated down to the min damage. Jedi sabers have close damage ranges and also the highest elemental damage (which is unmitigated by ranged/melee defenses).








Yes you are right and wrong. Right that the high min damage is best, wrong that non-Jedi can't get a weapon that can rival high end sabers.


Elemental damage does not scale with our damage modifers. In the combat spam it adds at most 100 extra damage. So a high end saber would be say 620 min damage + 100 extra damage.


Are you saying you can't get a weapon more than 620 min damage? If that's the case then you need to shop around.


btw, Jedi will be outdamaged even with perfect saber in PvE if the player is using a nuking weapon. Rifles or Swords will match a good saber. Now you might say Armor break make up for in PvP.....nope 75% AB resists basically removes that and in PvE you will still be outdamaged since the Ranged will have the benefit of the AB on their damage when you both fire at the same thing.


imhigh2
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:50 am
#96






CURBhater wrote:
That lightsaber sucks if you mean its 698 damage with elemental included




LOL, noob, thats his max dam w/o elemental dam. And fyi it looks like a precu sdaber to me.



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jobothehobbit
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:54 am
#97


no my max on that saber is 698 not including my elemental (Bane's). But still, I was outdamaged by a scatter pistol that is easily purchased. My saber isn't exactly a weak one, there are a bunch that are in fact better but weak (of course by Light saber standards) it is not. The problem is my rifleman, swordsman and smuggler do more damage and that is teh problem. MLS should be in with the Nukers and Medf should be ( as it is) in the tank class with TKM. Powers (which I do not have) should be stronger then it is and Saber should definitely be stronger. Of course once they fix the LS speed bug we may actually be where we are supposed to be. But until then they will keep nerfing us.

Joe



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vnicula
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:00 am
#98

next time look in combat window.
you'll probably understand why you were outdamaged when you'll see a pistoleer/bh can spam specials every second.



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