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Thread: Top 10 Jedi CU Issues (week of May 9th)

ArianSix
Thu May 12, 2005 11:11 am
#92






MsNiL wrote:

In addition to this I would like to say that Force Wielder's primary defense is Kiting.





That's what I originally thought too, but unfortunately Force Wielder doesn't work this way.


I have a more intracate write-up above, but I'll summarize it real fast with some bullets.


1) Force Wielder range = 30m
2) All primary Wielder attacks have a warm up bar
3) Cannot move during warm up
4) Cannot get hit during warm up
5) Warm up is about 2 seconds


As you can see, Wielder cannot kite. It has to stay in close range and has to actually stand still (without getting hit) in order to launch any of the decent offensive moves.


The only thing I can kite with is Force Hit which, ironically, is a Jedi Initiate skill, not a Wielder Skill.


Force Strike is the Novice Wielder attack and it has a warm up so no moving if you're going to use it. To make matters worse it does less damage than Force Hit (Jedi Initiate skill) which doesn't require a warm up. It also uses more force.


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Farenheit
Thu May 12, 2005 12:18 pm
#93

Song: Please put Vis on that top ten list and hammer them hard.... Many of us are fallign so far in the hole we may never see the light of day again



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chewboywa
Thu May 12, 2005 3:10 pm
#94

I don't really like how force wielder is right now with the "warm up" timer bar for lightning and strike, they don't allow the wielder to attack offensively without having to stand still being a much easier target. Improved force lightning doesn't seem to be accessable, so for now improved lightning area is the most damaging attack aside choke.



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Eshash
Thu May 12, 2005 5:02 pm
#95

The only thing ive evernot agreed withabout Jedi is the Drain force. Wether I have it or not, I hated it before CU and I hate it after. It needs to have a serious cooldown effect or make it so force sheild/absorb/feedback work against it. Maybe feedback would give you the penalty for using the move, absorb would give the attacked jedi force and sheild would block the drain effect. That single move ruined my FUN in the FRS and I unfortunatly will not personally rejoin anything JvJ related until that is changed if it ever is.
Biffhammer
Fri May 13, 2005 1:13 am
#96


Bah, just get em fixed. It shouldn't take this long. besides I'm tired and grumpy, and I need a beer. In fact I think we all should like go to swg and give the devs a few beers too. They really need to loosen up. It's like they have the king kong death grip on all our skills. Why are you guys so compelled to not giving us anything? lol.
Ofee
Fri May 13, 2005 4:20 am
#97






Biffhammer wrote:


Bah, just get em fixed. It shouldn't take this long. besides I'm tired and grumpy, and I need a beer. In fact I think we all should like go to swg and give the devs a few beers too. They really need to loosen up. It's like they have the king kong death grip on all our skills. Why are you guys so compelled to not giving us anything? lol.





Lol if it would help, I would buy.
Salebow
Fri May 13, 2005 4:39 am
#98

Thanks for the update SonG.



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Ryle80
Fri May 13, 2005 4:46 am
#99

Nice list SonG, good to see your on top of our main concerns.




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Wini
Fri May 13, 2005 4:51 am
#100

The force cost on Force armor is a way to high, therefor it is nearly useless in combat.





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Catman-Does
Fri May 13, 2005 5:00 am
#101

*kick kick stab*

Come on SOE listen to SonG!!





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eavaiwimae
Fri May 13, 2005 5:02 am
#102

Oh, they listen, then do the what they want anyhow, Keep up the fight SonG. If anyone can get it done, its you.



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JorvenKain
Fri May 13, 2005 7:37 am
#103

Improved force weaken only lasts for 7 seconds, timer needs to be increased. Also Force Valor requires that you have a lightsabre equipped for it to work. this is unfair to those that go powers & don't take any lightsabre skills. I suggest that a unarmed force deflection be given to force powers that works identically to lightsabre block. Now before anyone starts flaming, remember ther is precidence for this. in Episode 5 when han , leia, & chew are lead to meat Vader. Han pulls a blaster & fires off a couple shots which Vader stops/deflects with only his hands. I think this would be a fairly simple thing to code in (not that I know anything about coding beyond a very basic level) and would go a long way to making powers the equivillent to Lightsabres that the dev's said they wanted it to be. (and be really cool as well )



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LordDesannTIO
Fri May 13, 2005 8:07 am
#104






JorvenKain wrote:

Improved force weaken only lasts for 7 seconds, timer needs to be increased. Also Force Valor requires that you have a lightsabre equipped for it to work. this is unfair to those that go powers & don't take any lightsabre skills. I suggest that a unarmed force deflection be given to force powers that works identically to lightsabre block. Now before anyone starts flaming, remember ther is precidence for this. in Episode 5 when han , leia, & chew are lead to meat Vader. Han pulls a blaster & fires off a couple shots which Vader stops/deflects with only his hands. I think this would be a fairly simple thing to code in (not that I know anything about coding beyond a very basic level) and would go a long way to making powers the equivillent to Lightsabres that the dev's said they wanted it to be. (and be really cool as well )



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that's sound good but what would be the point to grind LS and make a 4th Gen LS with uber resources (expensive) and looting 4 Krayth Pearls or crystals (expensive or time consuming too) and you'll have to be lucky to have good tunes
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