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Thread: State of the Jedi Profession: NGE Conversion
Rugburn wrote:
lmao... Somehow I see Jedi getting a new correspondent.
We don't want one. If they replace Bac, I say flame him as a faker unless he takes up the torch.
Summed up my feelings exactly.
Took me about one year to complete the FS grind with occasional breaks and I finally unlocked about a month ago. I started grinding my temp at the computer (no raytt trials) I didnt mind that I was only getting 1k xp a kill and that my next tier four box would be 1.6 million xp. I worked up to this grind, and embraced it.
Now the template that I researched for hours, reading nearly every sticky on the Jedi forums is all being washed away in the great wave that is the NGE. No longer will I duel another jedi and have to wonder "What attack might they use" or "What template are they" because all the diversity has been sucked out of our profession.
I never once complained when I fighting pre-cu jedi about thier sabers having higher dmg and lower fc. I found it challenging searching for pearls and crystals either in the market or in the world to enchance my saber and possiblely become stronger.
I know multiplepeopleon my server and not one of them has approved of the NGE. One of my guildmates just finished the FS grind after failing the Capture the Commander quest multiple times and now that he unlocks he is greeted with the worst "enchancement" to grace SWG yet. So he has now had about 2-3 days to enjoy his work knowing that in about 4 days anyone can respec to the same profession as him and not have to ever make the countless trips across dathomir losing swoops and barcs to the NS. They never have to go throught the monotous grindof killing piket after piket. Also all the FS grinders out there now get nothing for their work, "Sorry guys you got 23 of the 24 boxes now but guess what you dont need that last box. We will just give it to you, along with the profession you worked so hard for broken and watered down.
This NGE completely blindsided the community. 36 profession shaved down to 9 andthatis an enchancment? Never was this featured in the "In concept" logs like the CU was, but yet somehow it will be ready in 14 days since the anoucement. This "enchancement" as already (before its even lauched)destroyed the community that played it. I lost count of the people that I said this was it for them im not sticking around for this NGE.
Like I said...The old armorsmith corrospondent made a post like this (a little harsher), and the next day his corrospondent status was taken away and he wasnt even given blue glowy.
ill just state as simple as possible
-> FACT: SOE and Lucas Arts will like, cheat, and steal. (you cannot ban me for this because it is true and any moron can prove this 1000x over)
-> FACT: SOE and Lucas Arts only care about one thing, money. FACT #2 is that they know nothing of how to make money or else none of this crap would ever have happened.
-> FACT: We were duped into paying 30 dollars for this expansion and you bait and switch us. This is illegal. This was obvious. And this could go to court. And we would win, regardless of the TOS. It is still illegal to bait and switch products.
-> FACT: SOE and Lucas Arts have betrayed their loyal customers, outright lied to them on many occasions, and have reduced our game to a pokeyman version of star wars.
-> FACT: SOE and Lucas Arts could have been sitting on 2m + subsribers if they would have revamped the first version of this game by simply fixing a few bugs that they never tried to fix and change a few stats on melee stackers, increase viability of ranged classes... and made reaching jedi a secret and completely different for each player (random quests, billion xp for example) and a few other things and the first version was perfect, fun, exciting, and they destroyed it.
-> FACT: Most of us are not 13 and we do remember this crap when we are consumers in the real world. Think i would buy another sony product? you think i will ever trust lucas arts again? This is the biggest game conspiracy ever by a game manufacturer. Someone needs to go to jail over this or pay a huge fricken fine.
-> FACT: Unless drastic things change very very soon. SWG will be a ghost town.
^ I agree ^ Great points Ezkiel.
Ezkiel wrote:
I 100% agree Bac
The way I see it the new jedi isnt balanced. My guess is Devs are gunshy with jedi because int he past Jedi have been powerful, and now they have done the oppisite to us. We are a step above trades combat wize. Lets recap what we have lost in the name of balance
1. any form of innate armor. Our only defense is a cnerter of being that we have to queue up and use instead of a special attack.
2. loss of effective root ability so we cant hold targets in place even for 5 seconds. this means we have to chase them all over h3ll and back to hit them. meanwhile getting kited. we have saber block you say? yes but guess what, if we use it we have to key ti up into our "specials" slot and thus no center of being or special attacks. This means Jedi is dogmeat in any pvp situation
3. our pearls and crystals we spent months gathering, killing for and speding millions of credits on are now dust. They are equivelent to a good pearl you can loot off a meatlump.
4. and lastly our actual wepaon damage. We cant even seem to autofire in this new version so we have to click every single attack. our attacks max speed is 2 attacks per second, while ranged get autoattack of 4 times per second. not to mention a ranged gun is twice the damage of a converted lightsaber. twice damage times twice the speed means the ranged folks will crank out 4 times the damage into our unarmored bodies.
This is the deathknoll for this popular star wars class. When new players come they will find it not onyl difficult to just play, but down right weak. it will be nothing like Kotor, or jedi outcast or any other game involving jedi. For goodness sakes SOE at least balance us. Im not asking to be more powerful, I just want a fighting chance!
Ezkiel wrote:
I 100% agree Bac
The way I see it the new jedi isnt balanced. My guess is Devs are gunshy with jedi because int he past Jedi have been powerful, and now they have done the oppisite to us. We are a step above trades combat wize. Lets recap what we have lost in the name of balance
1. any form of innate armor. Our only defense is a cnerter of being that we have to queue up and use instead of a special attack.
2. loss of effective root ability so we cant hold targets in place even for 5 seconds. this means we have to chase them all over h3ll and back to hit them. meanwhile getting kited. we have saber block you say? yes but guess what, if we use it we have to key ti up into our "specials" slot and thus no center of being or special attacks. This means Jedi is dogmeat in any pvp situation
3. our pearls and crystals we spent months gathering, killing for and speding millions of credits on are now dust. They are equivelent to a good pearl you can loot off a meatlump.
4. and lastly our actual wepaon damage. We cant even seem to autofire in this new version so we have to click every single attack. our attacks max speed is 2 attacks per second, while ranged get autoattack of 4 times per second. not to mention a ranged gun is twice the damage of a converted lightsaber. twice damage times twice the speed means the ranged folks will crank out 4 times the damage into our unarmored bodies.
This is the deathknoll for this popular star wars class. When new players come they will find it not onyl difficult to just play, but down right weak. it will be nothing like Kotor, or jedi outcast or any other game involving jedi. For goodness sakes SOE at least balance us. Im not asking to be more powerful, I just want a fighting chance!
All i can say is i can't agree more with this post. I know it won't make much sence to most NON JEDI or EBAY JEDI but for those of us that grinded 31Proffesions or close to it will see the light here.
Dvol wrote:
cahn-a-licious wrote:
wildcat84 wrote:
Lunion wrote:
i just hope the game gets canceled rather then having to play this crap NGE, they said they took a risk well i hope it goes wrong sick of all the nerfs and changes which are not fun and just screw up the ppl who played for so long to get where they are right now, maybe someone with a brain will bring a new swg out with precu style and actually listen to us
soe are bunch of c*nts
I know from someone who has inside sources that SWG was GOING to be cancelled in January. They desperately sold LEC on the NGE, and were ordered to throw it in now.
NGE was to be the core of SWG2. It was barely started, and isn't near finished.
About all NGE will accomplish is to get SWG cancelled... In January.
can easily see you have no clue what you are talking about, and even worse....trying to add validity to your bs
Yeah and jedi wasnt going to bea starter profession..the FRS is before LA for aproval....And The starter it is a misprintso i take everything with a wait and see aproach...lately what was posted by someone sayin i have inside info its this then they were flamed sayin it was all BS and a rumor...well it was all true..go figure
that was most definately not this guy.....saying game changing info is in the works and saying it is gonna be cancelled are two completely dif things....besides this fool has had a conspiracy theory every month for over a year.
Ezkiel wrote:
I 100% agree Bac
The way I see it the new jedi isnt balanced. My guess is Devs are gunshy with jedi because int he past Jedi have been powerful, and now they have done the oppisite to us. We are a step above trades combat wize. Lets recap what we have lost in the name of balance
1. any form of innate armor. Our only defense is a cnerter of being that we have to queue up and use instead of a special attack.
2. loss of effective root ability so we cant hold targets in place even for 5 seconds. this means we have to chase them all over h3ll and back to hit them. meanwhile getting kited. we have saber block you say? yes but guess what, if we use it we have to key ti up into our "specials" slot and thus no center of being or special attacks. This means Jedi is dogmeat in any pvp situation
3. our pearls and crystals we spent months gathering, killing for and speding millions of credits on are now dust. They are equivelent to a good pearl you can loot off a meatlump.
4. and lastly our actual wepaon damage. We cant even seem to autofire in this new version so we have to click every single attack. our attacks max speed is 2 attacks per second, while ranged get autoattack of 4 times per second. not to mention a ranged gun is twice the damage of a converted lightsaber. twice damage times twice the speed means the ranged folks will crank out 4 times the damage into our unarmored bodies.
This is the deathknoll for this popular star wars class. When new players come they will find it not onyl difficult to just play, but down right weak. it will be nothing like Kotor, or jedi outcast or any other game involving jedi. For goodness sakes SOE at least balance us. Im not asking to be more powerful, I just want a fighting chance!
So we go from being the strongest to the weakest? we lose EVERYTHING? Does that about sum it up? Well, its funny that frun last three seconds now. Because three seconds is about how long it going to take for a veteran jedi that spent 100;s of hours developing his toon, to play this new nerfnuked crap and decide to hit cancel.
Three seconds...maybe less.
Dont piss on my back and tell me Im being "enhanced".
Message Edited by DocMirrim on 11-09-2005 08:09 PM
Message Edited by JediJamie on 11-09-2005 08:05 PM
ChefRubio wrote:Like I said...The old armorsmith corrospondent made a post like this (a little harsher), and the next day his corrospondent status was taken away and he wasnt even given blue glowy.
Why should Bac care? He is a Jedi. We all are, those of us who have it now. We are not only being made a starter profession, we are being made the WEAKEST of all professions in combat save trader and entertainer.
If the Devs aren't willing to change this, to hell with them. And this game. NGE is supposed to be about increasing immersion, speed, and "Star Warsiness". If Jedi are to become glowing whiffleball bat weilders taken down in PvP as easily as Indiana Jones shot a swordsman facing him that defeats the purpose.