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Thread: Do you think the overpowered bh/cm's are ever going to get fixed?

abbink
Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:43 pm
#79



_Saevio_ wrote:
they don't need to be nerfed, jedi just need to be fixed




i agree. We need to get away from calling for nerfs on other proffesions and concentrate on screaming to get our profession fixed.






Too often players and the devs have a mindset that professions should be balanced with 1 on 1 pvp in mind. This mindset is ruining the game. The benchmark for balance should be determined by the role a profession plays in a group setting. As long as the current mindset continues we will never see uniqueness among the professions, nor will we ever see individuality within a given profession. We will never see the SWG universe expanded as the focus will only ever be balance pass after balance pass after balance pass.


Message Edited by abbink on 07-26-200609:32 AM


Werewolfzz
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:01 pm
#80

I've got the perfect solution!!

BH should get automatic states of:

Intimidate
Blind
Confused
and
KD

as soon as they see a Jedi.

Yeah, yeah,...

They can't heal or run from fear, they drop their weapon and cry

Oh yeah,... and their armor stops working

and it should just take us showing them our all-powerful and awe inspiring lightsaber for them to die...

and when we throw the saber at them, it should just cut them in half...

and because they came after us... they should go back to cl 1 when they die


TOLD YOU I HAD THE PERFECT SOLUTION!!!



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MBH/MCM/Master Pilot
Forgotten Soulz


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Werewolfzz
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:13 pm
#81

LOL...

I couldn't help myself...

I mean seriously, the only valid complaint Jedi have is how much they pay to SOE while they grind FS xp

HAHAHAHAHA

But for those of you who can't take a jab (joke)... (and many of the posts on CM and BH definately PROVE THAT)...

For You...

"Sorry" if I hurt your feelings!!!



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thepulse
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:18 pm
#82

the only nerf i want to see now is on log in! that way i could give up all hope it will be fun again.......

Message Edited by thepulse on 09-27-2005 09:19 PM



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Dvol
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:03 am
#83


No No No-They are FIxed balanced whatever u want to call it..we are BROKE..Just because one Profession Beats u and does it well doesnt mean its over powered..take a look at Jedi as a whole..not everyone has a 700+ max saber not everyone PvP's or Grinded for 6 months + and learned what their jedi could and couldnt do..see the problem is Everyone including myself needs to work on Fixing jedi-Not nerfing ourselves and others-


*Example*


Jedi heals are 8 seconds-Doc 1 to 2 secs-Ok u See that lil blue Bar well watch it when its at 0 gues what NO MORE HEALS-


*Example FIx*


either remove cost to mind or better yet let me heal 1 to 2 seconds and let me worry bout my mind-0 mind hey no heals-FIXED-


*Rant*


Why does Jedi have a Purple Bar for nowadays-oh yeah Force armor-cloak(NO Snare and i dont have powers ) to fix ones profession one must not worry bout others and worry bout themselves- our purple bar dont mean jack unless ur using high cost specials having 2 or even 3 cost is excessive..see how easy that is? re-think oh another good one is We want Balanced combat system everyone cried for over a year--you all happy Now? we have the cu instead of Fixes-april 05 was the day i couldnt believe but i deal with it hoping for the best-i also think the snare on defender is lame-but to each their own...


Message Edited by Dvol on 09-27-2005 12:04 PM



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mave25
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:17 am
#84






KRAKEN666 wrote:
jacella, only an arrogant jerk would assume that someone postsjust soley because they are getting beat by a bh on a constant basis....well, for thelast time i have to tell you....i dont get beat by them, matter of fact I have won every fight except one since the cu. The one i lost had a auto hit bug that drained my mind quickly.by the time i figured what was happening it was too late andI should have payed more attention.as for pvp, i have a rating of over 1500 and that was all bh killsand thats with a crappy saber. so, before you start making judgements why dont you at least get facts...oh, sorry, thats not your style...to get facts...I post for the guys that are coming up. this issue doesnt affect me that much...it started as a simple question that was posed to me by a group of mid level padawans that i help out on a regular basis. you know, help out. which is also not your style. You have no clue what the new guys are and will have to go through and sadly you dont care...just like some others that have posted here. I have my 4 million banked, I am a full template, but that doesnt mean that i will not help the guy coming up. Maybe you should try helping out some of the new guys, would put you back in touch of what they are going through. you are the worst kind of jedi jacella, one who turns their back on lower padawans...I think jedi who do that are lower scum than bh.





This statement isnt very fair. I dont recall anyone making any assumptions about you, I for one, was talking about the issue in general and the players that play both professions in general. I was one of the very first Jedi Guardian 4/4/4/4's on my server, was the first FRS Knight on my server, I founded, and lead a guild of jedi of all levels, some are veterans, some are noobs, and im well aware of the issues that post CU jedi face. More over, I have a second jedi that I developed after patch 10 and finished him off after the CU and am currently working on a 3rd jedi. Rest assured I know exactly what jedi go through in all era's including this one. I know the plight the newer guys face, and their plight has nothing to do with bhs, it has everything to do with an unfair opportunity to obtain equivalent weapons equipment to someone like myself.



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Frogmorton76
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:33 am
#85

The only thing I don't like are the droids the BH/CM are bringing with them now. Still, 9 out of 10 BH/CMs die when they attack me, but there's always at least a few people per server who understand how PvP actually works and have the skill to whip any non Powers jedi butt. In my opinion if they just removed the ability for Bacta Spray to heal the droid everything would be balanced again. If they want to invest a combat round to heal just the droid with some kind of droid repair kit thingy then let them, but healing both themselves and thier droid in the same combat round is a bit much. Not only does the droid boost up their heals but with it's gun it's effectively another DoT to deal with.


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Jacella
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:38 am
#86






KRAKEN666 wrote:
jacella, only an arrogant jerk would assume that someone postsjust soley because they are getting beat by a bh on a constant basis....well, for thelast time i have to tell you....i dont get beat by them, matter of fact I have won every fight except one since the cu. The one i lost had a auto hit bug that drained my mind quickly.by the time i figured what was happening it was too late andI should have payed more attention.as for pvp, i have a rating of over 1500 and that was all bh killsand thats with a crappy saber. so, before you start making judgements why dont you at least get facts...oh, sorry, thats not your style...to get facts...I post for the guys that are coming up. this issue doesnt affect me that much...it started as a simple question that was posed to me by a group of mid level padawans that i help out on a regular basis. you know, help out. which is also not your style. You have no clue what the new guys are and will have to go through and sadly you dont care...just like some others that have posted here. I have my 4 million banked, I am a full template, but that doesnt mean that i will not help the guy coming up. Maybe you should try helping out some of the new guys, would put you back in touch of what they are going through. you are the worst kind of jedi jacella, one who turns their back on lower padawans...I think jedi who do that are lower scum than bh.




Let me respond to this with as much of a level head as possible. You say that you win almost all the time, you brag about your pvp rating, yet you ask that another profession be nerfed because of young padawans that you are helping. Here, try and teach them the pvp skills you have and be done with it. These new padawans are going from killing Mel to finished template in a month...even with the current FOTM BH's after them. You are right, I have little sympathy for their plight. Does that make me a bad jedi? Hardly. What it means is that our profession is being brought to it's knees by the nerf callers and the people who refuse to master their profession. These mcm/mbh's are a fad, nothing more. As for xp loss on padawans, in order for the xp loss to be a real factor in their "grind", they would have to die at least 7 times a night to equal pre-cu standards. Jedi are making 3 million xp a night.






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MsNiL
Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:19 am
#87





Werewolfzz wrote:
LOL...
I couldn't help myself...
I mean seriously, the only valid complaint Jedi have is how much they pay to SOE while they grind FS xp
HAHAHAHAHA
But for those of you who can't take a jab (joke)... (and many of the posts on CM and BH definately PROVE THAT)...
For You...
"Sorry" if I hurt your feelings!!!



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QJP
Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:26 am
#88


master LS, master defender and healer 4040...


I have a fairly average saber (compared to some of the pre cu monstrosities on Farstar), but I haven't lost to a BH yet, including the CM/doc types... yeah I have fought for 40-50 minutes, but I came out on top.


Learn to play your profession instead of asking for it to be made easier...

Message Edited by QJP on 09-28-2005 01:29 PM




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Saereth
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:11 am
#89






MsNiL wrote:





felipz wrote:


Yes the problem is jedi uses too much mind compared to non-jedi. Well not only that but we get drained on mind and force at the same time.



I have more problem with the forcebar than the mindbar.







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30 fc saber sucks






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Saereth
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:23 am
#90






QJP wrote:


master LS, master defender and healer 4040...


I have a fairly average saber (compared to some of the pre cu monstrosities on Farstar), but I haven't lost to a BH yet, including the CM/doc types... yeah I have fought for 40-50 minutes, but I came out on top.


Learn to play your profession instead of asking for it to be made easier...

Message Edited by QJP on 09-28-2005 01:29 PM





dood how do you fight for almost an hour of constant fighting without channel in your temp?! you just like running in circles waiting for their buffs to drop or something? with a 30fc saber I can lay on ab/kd/and cycle head/body hits for about 5 minutes straight them in totally out of force just from hitting... meh? Also with no force run and no crowd control even being Mdef your temp should be an easy kill for a skilled mbh/mcm... -shrug-




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KyiasLightsun
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:30 am
#91

My problem with it is thyroid rupture. It just isn't on the same lines as the current speed buffs (something that was brought down by half but the debuff equivilent stays the same?)




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