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Thread: Uh, this looks bad...

Ameno
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:05 am
#79






MsNiL wrote:






keysy wrote:

that why every1 is saying what a retard you are? we are fans every1 is different if, there is more ppl who want PRE CU back. that is fact iam pretty sure



The game havedropped from millions just to 1-200.000 users. The game got 7.2 average in the largest websites. WoW got 9.2. KOTOR got 9.3.
Who do you think SoE care about? You? Pre-CU fans? Or the Star Wars fans who currently do not play the game?

And the children can toss around whatever titles they like. They still got pwned.







Do you honestly think that matters? look at it this way, i've gone to other games, during the CU times and even during the pre-cu times. all i heard from people was "wow that swg is going horribly" "yea i have a friend that played it, said it was the worst MMORPG he ever played, and he is a star wars junkie", if everyone currently quits.. and at this rate they will, word of mouth is going to spread like wildfire that SOE just really screwed their current player base, worse then it is already.


What makes you think a star wars fan is going to pick up this game? pay a monthly fee to grind..? what for? let me guess to RP right? yeah right, you can go RP in Jedi Academy and you'll still have more fun in it than SWG. hell i've had more fun playing tabletop RPG star wars then swg, at least my saber did some damage in that.


People play things based on the following

learning curve

fun factor

community

price

and what previous customers had to say about it.


If you went to any of the online gaming stores that sell this game, you will see about 70% Negative reviews and tons of them.



Name:Tatsu
Master of Combat and the ways of the Force.
-Enlightened 8/12/04-
I am grey. I stand between the candle and the star.
I stand between the darkness and the light.
___________________________________________
?ire rains upon those who stand before me..

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BHM
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:06 am
#80






MsNiL wrote:






keysy wrote:

Taken from he back of my box....

EXPLORE ten massive worlds, from corellia to naboo. each environment is meticulously recreated through an entirely new 3D engine designed to portray the star wars galaxy in the greatest possible detail



Neither he or you seems to have any clue what an rpg fan want in a star wars game.
Neither did SOE when they launched the first game.






I am under the impression that an RPG fan wants an RPG game, not an FPS. Which is basically the reason for I'm against the NGE. I'm not against the quest based system, I have to say I really enjoyed the tutorial and especially the space station.


But the new combat system is dumb.. and the fact that there are 9 classes instead of 32 professions makes it harder to roleplay, not easier.







Andros Celsum ~ Master Bounty Hunter ~ "It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both."

MsNiL
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:06 am
#81






Swanheart wrote:
You just said back there that you prefer FPS kind of PvP



Since when did DoA became a FPS?

Sexade is just here to fight, appearently he have no clue what a rpg is about.




--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
sexade
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:06 am
#82






MsNiL wrote:







sexade wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's not a FPS.

I'll ask again, what is stopping you exploring and adventuring in the current system? At the third time of asking, dont ignore, dont call names, dont sidestep, dont assume things you have no idea of, just answer the question or admit, and my elite speak isnt quite upto scratch so this may be wrong, that you have been...


"WTFPWNED! SUCKS TO BE YOU MsNil"




What system was going to go online next week? The FRS? A Pre-CU server? More forced-pvp?
Who won?

I have more quests than I need now, with no forced-pvp and no retarded anti-light king-of-the-hill system, and several of my old friends are coming back. I am just here to mock you for all the crap I had to take to get this far,that's all.





Keep it coming, this truly is entertaining




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Woff ~ Elder Jedi Bum
Coastis ~ Rebel Propagandist

sexade
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:08 am
#83






MsNiL wrote:






Swanheart wrote:
You just said back there that you prefer FPS kind of PvP



Since when did DoA became a FPS?

Sexade is just here to fight, appearently he have no clue what a rpg is about.






No MsNil, if i had wanted a fight i would have resorted to name calling and assuming things about youthat i have no ideaand other such petty acitons, im simply here to discuss which you seem incapable of once you realise you are incorect.



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Woff ~ Elder Jedi Bum
Coastis ~ Rebel Propagandist

BHM
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:09 am
#84






MsNiL wrote:







sexade wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's not a FPS.

I'll ask again, what is stopping you exploring and adventuring in the current system? At the third time of asking, dont ignore, dont call names, dont sidestep, dont assume things you have no idea of, just answer the question or admit, and my elite speak isnt quite upto scratch so this may be wrong, that you have been...


"WTFPWNED! SUCKS TO BE YOU MsNil"




What system was going to go online next week? The FRS? A Pre-CU server? More forced-pvp?
Who won?

I have more quests than I need now, with no forced-pvp and no retarded anti-light king-of-the-hill system, and several of my old friends are coming back. I am just here to mock you for all the crap I had to take to get this far,that's all.






Ahh.. I see now


I only hope that the guys who think MsNil is some kind of community builder have a chance to see this post and the other flame/childish one


Just so they can think twice before seeking help or giving any credit to this guy.


Message Edited by BHM on 11-08-2005 04:10 PM



Andros Celsum ~ Master Bounty Hunter ~ "It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both."

sexade
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:10 am
#85






BHM wrote:






MsNiL wrote:







sexade wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's not a FPS.

I'll ask again, what is stopping you exploring and adventuring in the current system? At the third time of asking, dont ignore, dont call names, dont sidestep, dont assume things you have no idea of, just answer the question or admit, and my elite speak isnt quite upto scratch so this may be wrong, that you have been...


"WTFPWNED! SUCKS TO BE YOU MsNil"




What system was going to go online next week? The FRS? A Pre-CU server? More forced-pvp?
Who won?

I have more quests than I need now, with no forced-pvp and no retarded anti-light king-of-the-hill system, and several of my old friends are coming back. I am just here to mock you for all the crap I had to take to get this far,that's all.






Ahh.. I see now


I only hope that the guys who think MsNil is some kind of community builder have a chance to see this post and the other flame/childish one


Just so they can think twice before seeking help or giving any credit to this guy.



Message Edited by BHM on 11-08-2005 04:10 PM



Yep, i think my work is done in this thread




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Woff ~ Elder Jedi Bum
Coastis ~ Rebel Propagandist

Ameno
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:12 am
#86

no response to my post.



Name:Tatsu
Master of Combat and the ways of the Force.
-Enlightened 8/12/04-
I am grey. I stand between the candle and the star.
I stand between the darkness and the light.
___________________________________________
?ire rains upon those who stand before me..

a Second Life for free(checkit out!)
MsNiL
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:17 am
#87






keysy wrote:

i never said they cared about us, all ive said 2 you is that there is more ppl who like PRE CU then the CU or this new BS cu, cant u read? yea the numbers have droped because of the CU and it will prob drop again with this new one, until some corn flake jedis come along and fill it again, you think wow and kotor are so good, go play them newbie and save us the trouble of reading your total crap posts



In the forum yes. In the world. no.

To a large scale corporation who sits on the Star Wars License, do you think they give a **** about a small veteran community when all large gaming websites and pretty much all large star wars sites say SWG sucks?




--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.
Pday
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:17 am
#88






MsNiL wrote:







Pday wrote:
this post made so many things clear that i didnt relize before, why you hated this game among other things. This was not a first person shooter, the fun in pvp in RPG's is the focus on the character rather on the reflexes of the person behind the keyboard. I play swg to play an RPG, i have quake 3, UT, battlefield 2 and halo for the FPS type combat.

I just relized how much of a liability you are, and how you never should have bought this game.




Asume what you like. I have finished most adventure and rpg games releasedto pc since 1998, of which games such as Baldurs Gate 2, Knights of the Old Republic and Syberia tops my list.

I do not see the point of pvp'ing 1on1 in a roleplaying game. First becouse RPG's is about co-operation.Second becouse RPG's are about numbers and dices.






what numbers would that be? the numbers like your characters accuracy, speed, movement speed, weaponspeed, armor stats, defence and such? of which the new game has what 2 resists on the armor and weapon damage? thats about the same as most FPS games.


KOTOR, baldurs gate, syberia, all had 1 thing in common, they all had numbers for your character,accuracy, speed, defences, health and so on, theNGE hasno numbers for defence, no numbers for accuracy, its all twitch bases so in shortnot an RPG. Definately nothing worthpaying to play, considering you haveSW battlefront 2 which is a better game than the NGE, star wars episode 3, kotor 2, all better games than the NGE.


My old guild had about 60 active members back in the old system and was mainly a PvE guild, after the CU went live the guild died due to there being only 3 active members left.


Roleplay games are numbers, the roll whether you hit or miss is about your characters accuracy, vs your oppnents defences, thats why some of us like RPGs.



What do you think is going to happen when the NGE goes live buggy as it is, do you think gaming websites are going to give it good reviews? i write those, and il make sure to leave a sour review for swg, ive told most of my friends considering buying it its not worth it because of the people who run it, and partially the people who play it. You can add the quests you want, put in Han solo voiceovers, it does not make up for poor gameplay, buggy games, bad customer support, a lack of respect for customers.

Message Edited by Pday on 11-08-2005 04:22 PM



Iadao

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yeah it's only a game, but the time and money I invested in it are certainly F'ing REAL.

keysy
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:18 am
#89

community is 90% of the reason iam still here, no other game has it like swg, ive played WOW n some others, no1 even talks 2 you in wow, we are all friends and are staying strong as friends and as servers 2 hope that this will make the game better, really i dont think it will but meh iam gona give it a try i owe it 2 the time ive put in2 swg 2 try it so...



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darthjaycen
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:20 am
#90





Msnil wrote:

Neither he or you seems to have any clue what an rpg fan want in a star wars game.
Neither did SOE when they launched the first game.






So Msnil i guess they need to change the opening crawl from

Starwars Galaxies

An Empire Divided....

" the greatest adventure.. yours"

to the greatest adventure Msnils'


You want to be a role player, fine i respect that, but why do you insist that everyone bend to your playstyle. There were outs for people like you in the old system. if you didn't want to be perma-overt don't do the knight trials, if you don't want to pvp don't go overt. Quit flaming others it really hurts your I love everyone Jedi Unite slogan.





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Happy endings are just stories that haven't finished

Ameno
Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:21 am
#91






MsNiL wrote:






keysy wrote:

i never said they cared about us, all ive said 2 you is that there is more ppl who like PRE CU then the CU or this new BS cu, cant u read? yea the numbers have droped because of the CU and it will prob drop again with this new one, until some corn flake jedis come along and fill it again, you think wow and kotor are so good, go play them newbie and save us the trouble of reading your total crap posts



In the forum yes. In the world. no.

To a large scale corporation who sits on the Star Wars License, do you think they give a **** about a small veteran community when all large gaming websites and pretty much all large star wars sites say SWG sucks?







wait thats a contradiction to what you're saying though, if all these sites are saying they suck, and the veterns doesn't matter. if they **edit** the veterns, they are just going to these sites with all the bad news that is being filtered out, thus giving swg a even worse reputation then it already has thus killing the game. i could be missing something, but i don't think so. so in short VETERNS ARE THE F'ING GAME. we stayed here the longest, and we all have detailed accounts of what they've done, promises, and never did.


And believe me, people do read reviews before they go to a MMO, and they'll only be reading bad things.





Name:Tatsu
Master of Combat and the ways of the Force.
-Enlightened 8/12/04-
I am grey. I stand between the candle and the star.
I stand between the darkness and the light.
___________________________________________
?ire rains upon those who stand before me..

a Second Life for free(checkit out!)
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