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I have said it before I will say it again. It ain't all about damage. I swapped out my 102, -3fc crystal and put in a 82, -7 pearl. My saber went from 502 - 601 dmg, fc 22 to 489 - 577 dmg, fc 16. I hit faster and in some cases get better damage. Template is MLS/MENH heal 4004.

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Pharrel wrote:
Good Numbers. However most of the Jedi Community has 100-108 SAC Lightsabers. Padawans are grinding up to the Experimentation Points in Master Lightsaber to craft a 97 SAC Lightsaber. So your results are skewd towards the extreme right hand side of the natural distribution curb.

I recommend toding the same test with a 104 SAC Lightsaber. For results closer to the mean average.

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This makes no sense, really.

When comparing numbers, it is most important to stay CONSISTENT. Not to ensure you are testing based on the "mean average". (And on that note, I disagree very strongly that 104 would be the "mean average"). It would be virtually impossible to test this with an "average" #.

Further, if he tested it based on a half-template Jedi, then they wouldn't even have all the skills available. And you'd also run into other variances such as lower force regen rates for lower level pads, etc.

So I think Bac has it right just how it is. You take the test results from a FULL TEMPLATED Jedi and figure out your numbers. Then base EVERYTHING from that point on off THOSE numbers. It's all you need to know.

If you THEN want to know what a 104 SAC saber would do to the numbers, then figure it out based on a conversion ratio like this:

(Example)

97 SAC Saber, and a saber move that costs 41 Force Pool

Compare to a 104 SAC saber, use this formula:

X = Your saber SAC cost, Y = Bacaiacca's calculated force cost of a particular special (listed above)

(X * Y) / 97 = Force pool spent

It's that easy!

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AELELAEMAMIALLAIEIEAAAMLLELELAIALIEAAAAAEALEELAAAELAALILAEAEAAMLLELELL
LAAALEMMLLAILIELILMIIIAEIIAALEAEEELLEIEALLMEIALAAALALELIEAILALAIAAAMAL
LLLLEMAIAIEIELLLMALLMAALLIAAMMMAAAAELMLALEALILEALILAELILALEIAALELMLAME

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Baciacca wrote:

Ok everyone so how do these numbers hold up. Everyone has been saying that Action/Mind Costs have gone up. Here are the current Action and Mind cost percentages from about 2-3 weeks ago. Do these numbers differ from now?

/Discuss please......

All tests were done with a 97 SAC Lightsaber.

FC1 is a 23 Force Cost Lightsaber

FC2 is a 32 Force Cost Lightsaber

Action %- Mind %- FC1 - FC2

Force Costs numbers are actual (not percent).

Saber Hit

5 - 2 - 9 - 11

Saber Strike

8 - 2 - 33 - 42

Improved Saber Leg Hit

8 - 2 - 41 - 52

Improved Saber Head Hit

8 - 2 - 41 - 52

Improved Saber Body Hit

8 - 2 - 41 - 52

Improved Saber Power Attack

12- 2 -55 - 68

Improved Saber Spin Attack

12 - 2 -55 - 68

Improved Saber Swipe

11 - 2 - 44 - 55

Dervish

11 - 4 - 60 - 73

Improved Saber Armor Break

11 - 2 - 55 - 68

Improved Saber Blind

8 - 2 - 44 - 55

Improved Saber Stun

8 - 2 - 55 - 68

Improved Saber Slash

10 - 2 - 44 - 55

Improved Saber Sweep

12 - 2 - 44 - 55

Advanced Saber Throw

8 - 2 - 55 - 68

Message Edited by Baciacca on 08-30-200507:09 PM

Message Edited by Baciacca on 08-30-2005 07:09 PM

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Well SAC cost can be greatly reduce, as with every weapon, when crafting. A LS can have a have a 95 SAC if you have the right stuff and experimintation points. Build a better saber and experiment on effectiveness and you will see a diffrence. Now Force Cost is a diffrent issue. only see a major cost on Dervish but that is a MLS skill so it should cost a bit more. IMO

I just see a major SAC cost in things like Force Run and other non saber powers. Thos little things you can work around.