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Thread: [Jedi Templates vs1.3] It is your Destiny....

Waye
Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:44 am
#66


Hey, I have a template thatmay not be the best, but I'll enjoy it. But i have one branch i'm not sure what to do with.


The part of my template I want to keep.


-MLS

-Enh 2003 (had 3004, but just didnt see much return on the level 2 speed, and as far as i can tell force shield is not necessary, least it doesn't help vs drain)

-Healer 4000 (did have 4020 not really that useful the 0020 part helped in one on one jedi duels, but really how often will we be one on one deuling)

-Defender 4040 (the melee def and the aura helps enough vs pve, hopefully the force defense helps against jedi)



that leaves me one branch to play with.

NOTE: I pve my jedi all the time. I like to go kill ns and troopers and such. I have no problem with 2-3 bh's right now (havent been hit by 4 yet) I have killed everything in RotW so far, solo. (Except the droid at the end of the caves. )


Keeping MLS I know how to make mls work, but with a speed buff on, i need to gear all my food and drink vs action. (have a nearly maxed pearl saber). It does seem that mls is not NECESSARY, but i'll take anything to get me though the pve mobs quicker.


I'm keeping enh 2002 no matter what. I cant stand that miserable slow jog wo fr, and i cant stand the downtime of no channel.

Those branches of Def just seem necessary.


So I'm stuck between 0040 branch of healer, and either 0400 or 0004 branch of defender.


My best guess at winning at pvp with these skills, is to sap them and drain them till theyre empty. Then try and start in w the saber. Seems worthless in pve.


Since pvp isn't a boxing match, how about (this means, its not so much your skills but your friends)

Defender

0400 (wait-ranged defense does't seem that neccessary in pve, so how usefull would the force armor be?)

0004 (wait- no jedi armor)


Someone give me some good uses for oo4o healer in pve or tell me that i will never win in pvp wo it and i'll keep it. Any comments by you experienced pvpers is appreciated. The only other thing that would make me really want to keep 0040 healer is if the new FRS was mandatory deuling between 1v1 jedi. (doubtful)
perfavorebasta
Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:30 am
#67

Get defender x4xx, you will love the extra innate jedi armor

Message Edited by perfavorebasta on 06-07-2005 06:32 AM



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Geodan
Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:28 am
#68

very nice, clearly states the different templates in detail



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Geodan
Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:31 am
#69

Message Edited by Geodan on 06-07-2005 07:33 AM



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Aeleb
Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:50 am
#70

Tagage. This is good info.



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RuytooBasgar
Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:29 am
#71

This is the Single Master Template I am using works pretty good in group PvP. If fighting solo, better to run (at least untill some fixes hit powers) because you will run out of force before you even make a dent in the person.


Master Powers Template


Master Powers, 4140 Healer, 4004 Enhancer, 0040 Defender


Pros: Very good Group PvP template. You have the 1500 heal plus Improved Infusion and Wound Healing. Force Aura for defense which is enough for me to survive pretty good. You have the ability to escape well if in trouble via Force Run or Cloak. Force Sap which is very helpful when fighting those MLS or Riflemen (and will be even more needed once and if they add a mind cost to force healing). Force Shock, which doesn't play a big part now, but will once Stun is fixed as well as Force Throw and Mind Blast with there state effects. You have a root and a snare. Also the skills that should be a requirement for Master Powers templates Channel, Speed, and Meditate.


Cons: - Poor Solo survivability. This template is more a support template. Don't expect to be able to solo alot of things.


- No Lightsaber. The only downfall with this is no armor break imo. But as I stated before, this is a group intensive template and everybody and his brother has Armor Break already.


- Aura dependant. You have to keep a close eye in combat and make sure you keep aura up or you'll be dead in seconds.



I think this template will be alot better once some of the changes SonG posted are completed (mainly the 50% less force cost for Power skills, Mind Blast and Throw getting there state effects fixed,and Choke ignoring armor resists.) Unless the FRS has changed dramatically, this template would rule in the higher ranks because of the power bonuses you get.




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DarthINSANUS
Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:40 am
#72






RuytooBasgar wrote:

This is the Single Master Template I am using


Master Powers, 4140 Healer, 4004 Enhancer, 0040 Defender


Pros: Very good Group PvP template. You have the 1500 heal plus Improved Infusion and Wound Healing. Force Aura for defense which is enough for me to survive pretty good. You have the ability to escape well if in trouble via Force Run or Cloak. Force Sap which is very helpful when fighting those MLS or Riflemen (and will be even more needed once and if they add a mind cost to force healing). Force Shock, which doesn't play a big part now, but will once Stun is fixed as well as Force Throw and Mind Blast with there state effects. You have a root and a snare. Also the skills that should be a requirement for Master Powers templates Channel, Speed, and Meditate.


Cons: - Poor Solo survivability. This template is more a support template. Don't expect to be able to solo alot of things.


- No Lightsaber. The only downfall with this is no armor break imo. But as I stated before, this is a group intensive template and everybody and his brother has Armor Break already.


- Aura dependant. You have to keep a close eye in combat and make sure you keep aura up or you'll be dead in seconds.



I think this template will be alot better once some of the changes SonG posted are completed (mainly the 50% less force cost for Power skills, Mind Blast and Throw getting there state effects fixed,and Choke ignoring armor resists.) Unless the FRS has changed dramatically, this template would rule in the higher ranks because of the power bonuses you get.






This template sounds very playable if played correctly. It seems, like you said, it isbest done in a support role. But Im sure it can do failry well on its own as well (Against non Jedi especially). I believe once we see some changes to force power costs, templates like these can become even more playable.


Ill be adding this one to the list of "No Lightsaber" templates.





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RuytooBasgar
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:19 pm
#73

/bump



I didn't see a No Lightsaber heading on the OP. Is it somewhere else?





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DarthINSANUS
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:56 pm
#74






RuytooBasgar wrote:

/bump



I didn't see a No Lightsaber heading on the OP. Is it somewhere else?








There isn't a heading yet, but with your template, that makes a few we have now.

In my next update/edit Ill be sure to add one to it.



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Shakes
Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:23 pm
#75




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-Vash-
Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:27 am
#76

Bump For Teh Win!


Great Guide
-Maze-
Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:38 am
#77

Great guide. Here is another option for single mastery with menh...menh/4---healer/--4-def/-4--powers/-4-4ls=6325 force max. It's missing forceSAP so maybe not as good, but makes up for it in the aura tree.







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Oblox
Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:42 am
#78

Some other dabbler considerations

Ls 0400 Mpowers Enh 4004 heal 4000 Def 0040

Mpowers for main offence with decent lightsaber for backup, ability to run, recharge force, have some defences and heal. Weakness = lack of defences.

Ls 0400 Mdefender Enh 2004 Heal 4100 Powers 0400 (6100 force)

Very good PVE template, LS does good damage with armour break mdefender means you can easily soak up the extra damage from mobs, heal self and others wounds basic FR for travelling and PVP and cloak for getting past nasty mobs or escaping if you get in over your head or rooted. Weakness = lack of KD

Ls 0400 Mdefender Enh 4004 Heal 4000 Powers 0400 (6325 force)

As above but with FR2 instead of wound heal, with toggle for FR coming this might be more useful.



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