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Thread: Premium pearls

Quiet420
Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:20 am
#66

its in the dev tracker a ways back...I don't particularly look forward to searching through it, but if I get a chance I will get you your precious link
Quiet420
Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:38 am
#67






Amil wrote:
Where did you hear that high level mobs were being brought back in? I had heard that they were removed, but have not seen anything saying that they would be reintroduced. Link please.







here are links on multi group and raid


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=game_guides&message.id=285064#M285064


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Player_Association&message.id=8200#M8200


the posts regardingboss mobs are going to be tougher to find I believe, but they are out there

Message Edited by Quiet420 on 07-23-2005 01:44 PM

LintonLisa
Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:35 pm
#68

I imagine never.


They were mostlikely removed to balance jedi, time to just except it.







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kyel566
Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:52 pm
#69


Ive seen many post about what stats crystals/pearls people currently have. But what stats are Post CUPremium Pearls giving out there?

Im interested to see what the lowest and average tunes on these are.




Sorry about adding another crystal thread

Thank you

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Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:00 pm
#70





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BlkHwkDwn
Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:52 pm
#71






kyel566 wrote:


Ive seen many post about what stats crystals/pearls people currently have. But what stats are Post CUPremium Pearls giving out there?

Im interested to see what the lowest and average tunes on these are.




Sorry about adding another crystal thread

Thank you

Message Edited by kyel566 on 10-03-2005 10:19 PM




They tune the same, you still have a chance at a perfect tune, and a better one with a flawless, even pre cu it took many prems and flawless to get aperfect saber as many as 30-50 for some depending on luck



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fogseeker
Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:19 am
#72

ive tuned 4 post cu


119 -9


118 -9


104 -8


33 -5





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BlkHwkDwn
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:15 am
#73






Tapa wrote:

pre-cu I tuned 5 premium pearls, and 2 of them were -9 with over 100 damage (one was 118, the other 106ish, converted) but post-cu I've tuned nearly 30 quality pearls and the best I get is 60ish damage and around -5 fc.





premium is much better than quality, this is to be expected



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adetether
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:37 am
#74






BlkHwkDwn wrote:





Tapa wrote:

pre-cu I tuned 5 premium pearls, and 2 of them were -9 with over 100 damage (one was 118, the other 106ish, converted) but post-cu I've tuned nearly 30 quality pearls and the best I get is 60ish damage and around -5 fc.





premium is much better than quality, this is to be expected



then that would totally diminish the fact its all random then wouldnt it because random means regardless of the situation or the type of enviroment every one has a int chance at what ever.



set randomizer()


run randomizer()


test 15 times in 15 different scnearios and it should always bee different



seems to me that if a premium has a better chance then a flawless and that has a better chance then a qaulity and so in then its not random at all because they add the modifier element into it seems to me it works more like this



random = 100 random numbers - perl quality type



so prem would be 100 - 90 giving 10 random tune values


flawless 100 -20 giving 2o random


quality 100 -30


and so on wich isnt random at all wich means a. the devs lied to us and b. the state of perls needs to be addressed once and for all because its just silly now tiggs has made a fool of her self and all of us as more stats are released on perl tunes its pretty damn obvious that the code to calculate the stats is hard and not random and the generator used has a perl quality modifier to it.




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BlkHwkDwn
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:52 am
#75






adetether wrote:






BlkHwkDwn wrote:





Tapa wrote:

pre-cu I tuned 5 premium pearls, and 2 of them were -9 with over 100 damage (one was 118, the other 106ish, converted) but post-cu I've tuned nearly 30 quality pearls and the best I get is 60ish damage and around -5 fc.





premium is much better than quality, this is to be expected



then that would totally diminish the fact its all random then wouldnt it because random means regardless of the situation or the type of enviroment every one has a int chance at what ever.



set randomizer()


run randomizer()


test 15 times in 15 different scnearios and it should always bee different



seems to me that if a premium has a better chance then a flawless and that has a better chance then a qaulity and so in then its not random at all because they add the modifier element into it seems to me it works more like this



random = 100 random numbers - perl quality type



so prem would be 100 - 90 giving 10 random tune values


flawless 100 -20 giving 2o random


quality 100 -30


and so on wich isnt random at all wich means a. the devs lied to us and b. the state of perls needs to be addressed once and for all because its just silly now tiggs has made a fool of her self and all of us as more stats are released on perl tunes its pretty damn obvious that the code to calculate the stats is hard and not random and the generator used has a perl quality modifier to it.







Dear lord, it is random, under each quality ratiing, however, each quality gives you a bonus, thus if you were rolling a hundred sided die, poor would give you no bonus, fair mayb +5, good +15 etc premium and flawless have a much higher chance of tuning well than others, but also havea chance oftuning crap, as on of the ones i tuned recently did 86/86 -3 -.01 speed.


So is it random, yes. Do you get a bonus based on pearl/crystal quality, yes. Or why else would they have ratings.





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Hulke
Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:07 am
#76



Adetether


Im just trying to figure out what the hell you think is going on? I mean if all pearls were random then the quality wouldnt matter. Its obvious that there has to be some modifier or some kind of code change between the quality of pearls. Either the random tune range is different or different quality pearls tune and then add different amounts on top of the tune based on their quality, something. Its impossible to have tunes be completely random and make it so that higher qualities have a better chance. Quit whining about the Devs. There is no great consipracy, its called economics. They can onlyputso many people on the team before theydon't make any money.They only have the manpower to do so many things. Blkhwkdwn is right on here as well.


Every post here about the tuning of pearls is not statistically viable either so dont rely on those. There are either not enough samples or there is no guarantee that people have only posted their bad tunes. It would take a lot more than what people have done here to prove anything about pearl tunes.


When the devs get to fixing the drops theyll get to it. Shut up about them lying to you and think about what you are saying before you post. Do you even understand the concept of statistics and randomization?

Message Edited by Hulke on 10-04-2005 11:12 AM

BlkHwkDwn
Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:09 am
#77






Hulke wrote:


Adetether


Im just trying to figure out what the hell you think is going on? I mean if all pearls were random then the quality wouldnt matter. Its obvious that there has to be some modifier or some kind of code change between the quality of pearls. Either the random tune range is different or different quality pearls tune and then add different amounts on top of the tune based on their quality, something. Its impossible to have tunes be completely random and make it so that higher qualities have a better chance. Quit whining about the Devs. There is no great consipracy, its called economics. They can onlyputso many people on the team before theydon't make any money.They only have the manpower to do so many things.


Every post here about the tuning of pearls is not statistically viable either so dont rely on those. There are either not enough samples or there is no guarantee that people have only posted their bad tunes. It would take a lot more than what people have done here to prove anything about pearl tunes.


When the devs get to fixing the drops theyll get to it.





Prems and flawless can tune badly, they just havea lower chance, their range is teh same, they just have a better chance of tuning well. this has been explained before.



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Hulke
Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:15 am
#78


I believe you here blkhwkdwn. Since I dont know what the code is I was just saying that they could have theortically done a number of things. I realize that its not likely that they have different tune ranges and its more likely there is a modifier.
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