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Thread: Do you hate BH's and what's your record against them?
If not, are you using a mediocre (or worse) saber along with powers?
I am curious, since my record is perfect: No wins, no losses, no hunts. I'm not sure what it is taking to be able to get a perfect winning record against a BH/CM.
I have a fair idea how to use the template, even though the solo grind didn't truely teach PvP, I have done some PvP in the past and learned the template with the long grind. However, I am not sure how well I'd do, especially since the BH gets the first shot (will often be when force is already low and you're already half dead), will obviously come fully buffed while the jedi may not be wasting "the good stuff" shopping the bazaar, etc., and can chose the time and place of the fight.
Geevo wrote:
final destination, Yavin IV Jedi Enclave
rebellious_imp wrote:
next bh that comes for me, i wanna have fun with.
see if I can get him to chase me all over the galaxy.
This should only work if you had a rank pre-CU. The rest of us would be just as quickly ganked by the patrolling sentinels, even if we are aligned with that "jedi faction".
- Do you hate Bounty Hunters that take Jedi missions? I have no respect for BH who hunt Jedi of their own Faction
- How successful have you been against them? Since Pub 20 Wins: 7 Loses: 1(was because of a lag issue but we dueled afterwords and I won but counted it as a loss cause of the -450k xp)
I'm not unbeatable. Just havent had a real challange yet.
MasterGettingOnTerms wrote:
Jacella wrote:
- Do you hate Bounty Hunters that take Jedi missions?
- How successful have you been against them?
1. dont care2. 17 wins3 loss
The problem with the system is that 17-3-0 equates to an 85% record. However, in the SWG BHvs.Jedi system, it equates to an XP loss of 1,356,000.
How is it fair to have a record of 85% and be penalized by 1.35 million while the BHs had absolutely no penalty? LOL
Perhaps the system opened up "fight clubs" in the past with mechanics similar to granting XP for a BH kill, but the system needs some sort of balance. Even for a full template XP loss can be a problem. With the nerf bat swinging every week, almost ANY template may need a revision at some point. 15.2 million is already a large amount of XP to obtain, but if one adds a 10 mil debt...
Iawalein wrote:
For those claiming 100% (or near that) success against BHs, do you all have sabers in the 700 max damage range (I've even heard of sabers showing 700 DPS-even though it's meaning less, that means really good max damage and nice un-modded speed)?
If not, are you using a mediocre (or worse) saber along with powers?
I am curious, since my record is perfect: No wins, no losses, no hunts. I'm not sure what it is taking to be able to get a perfect winning record against a BH/CM.
I have a fair idea how to use the template, even though the solo grind didn't truely teach PvP, I have done some PvP in the past and learned the template with the long grind. However, I am not sure how well I'd do, especially since the BH gets the first shot (will often be when force is already low and you're already half dead), will obviously come fully buffed while the jedi may not be wasting "the good stuff" shopping the bazaar, etc., and can chose the time and place of the fight.
Yes a +730 damage saber here and 650 DPS at 0044 LS or 763 DPS at master lightsaber with some speed attachments if that will ever work. Master force wielder choke was the replacement of armor break in my opinion and did wonders for me and often brought down even a combat medic 4000 bounty hunter down in seconds. I am not even kidding.
To start with i'm a BH. Last night i lasted 30 min against a Master Defender/saber... eventually he ran away mad at not been able to kill me.
What was fun..tracking him all night all over the place.
Finally dropped the mission and spent a few minutes talking together to try to improve our game.
This guys is good..i know him...he never run..always fight...nerver loose.
Myself...always fight...somtimes win...most of the time loose.
My point is that on the BH forum people claim winning all the time..
Well if you subsract AFK killing, or ran out of force from spinning jedi...and you only go for clean fight (like i do)...well the odds are prety clear that most BH will loose. And that is fine to me!!!!
So there is some BH like me that just like the tracking (i even track sometimes, and drop the mission just to duel to make the other guys happy and certain that he will not loose tons of XP).
Dont forget that most BH have a Jedi as an alt. toon
The BH forumseems to thinkall of you claiming such a high success rate (95% average)are liars apparently.
So.. what is it?
Are you all making stuff, or do you really have an average 95% win ratio?
Ameno wrote:
Compton wrote:
Wow, doesn't look like Jedi are under powered like some like to believe!
I'll tell you one thing, I don't know how many fights I've had, but I've died FAR many more times to a Jedi than they have to me. The ratios has to be at least 5 to 1. A lot of this had to do with me being an inexperienced BH with bad armor and wepaons and just running up to the jedi and shooting. That doesn't work.
Message Edited by Compton on 09-08-2005 02:35 PM
Most of the jedi with high kill ratios, aren't newbs, and know their template extreamly well.. and are usually PvP'ers.
This needs to be taken into account. I PvP'd actively ( every day ) for about 9 months before I unlocked. I am a PvPer who is using a Jedi. Not a Jedi who PvPs.
3 legitimatelosses in my Jedi career
BH's killed... stopped counting after I killed 3 one after the other in the space of 8 minutes.... I estimate its in the 40's though
Love the system
Fled like a scared puppy from 2 BH's they were better than me... and im not ashamed to admit it... I refused to die though 
Forced 4 BH's to quit and call it a draw.
Message Edited by Tripbacca on 09-08-200511:51 PM
Message Edited by Tripbacca on 09-08-2005 11:51 PM
I swear most people here are a bunch of retards.
All I see so far is people stating a record AFTER FULL TEMPLATE. Duh
If that isn't the case the loss is because you are AFK. Duh
If all of you never die then why the hell does every other thread here involve why BH are overpowered?
fyi I=Jedi I just think u guys are funnay 
me and 3 other guildies of my have all had the same thing happen to us 2day when u try to force heal it just glows like u used it but u didnt. we found that if u have a self heal macro and use it and this happens to u just delete ur macro and remake it works for now at least. but man i went 5 weeks with no deaths and BH barely kills me. if force heal was working right i kinda beat him since i was forced to use stims and infusion and he only needed like 3 more hits to die 
Iawalein wrote:
For those claiming 100% (or near that) success against BHs, do you all have sabers in the 700 max damage range (I've even heard of sabers showing 700 DPS-even though it's meaning less, that means really good max damage and nice un-modded speed)?
If not, are you using a mediocre (or worse) saber along with powers?
I am curious, since my record is perfect: No wins, no losses, no hunts. I'm not sure what it is taking to be able to get a perfect winning record against a BH/CM.
I have a fair idea how to use the template, even though the solo grind didn't truely teach PvP, I have done some PvP in the past and learned the template with the long grind. However, I am not sure how well I'd do, especially since the BH gets the first shot (will often be when force is already low and you're already half dead), will obviously come fully buffed while the jedi may not be wasting "the good stuff" shopping the bazaar, etc., and can chose the time and place of the fight.
my saber is only like 530dps, 663max damage. probably spent over 60million in credits just to get it that way, pre-cu.
But i've been PvPing/Dueling Since beta..its my field of play lol.