Jedi Archive
Thread: Force Rank System ETA Delayed
Jhahadir
Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:43 pm
#53
MsNiL wrote:
gpoliece wrote:
I agree with MsNIL,smugglers need a revamp,SL needs a revamp, who else hmmm.... chefs,no there ok,...hmmm o ya you should add some new professions in the game,in a new expansion or something,that would be cool
Core System (effects us):
Bleed, Blind, Dizzy, Disease, Stun, Stabilizers and Heal States barely works post-cu.
Combat Medic, Doctor and Force Healer needs a balancepass.The Loot system needs to be fixed.
Non "within the scope" skillsets needs to be put in scope with the CU:
Bio-Engineer (yes),Creature Handler, Commando, Ranger, Squad Leader and the rest of Jedi needs to be upgraded to the Combat Upgrade ruleset.
Non-Jedi:
Chef and Tailor needs their products repaired.
Finally... Content:
Architects, Commando, Dancer, Droid Engineer, Image Designer, Merchant, Musician, Ranger, Smuggler and Tailor needs content before we do (well, except for pearldrops fixed).
I never fully understood this part each time it is mentioned in posts.
Crafting professions are a tough bunch to give real content to. They craft a product that other players buy, because they need it. Thats about all you can really give a crafter in the way of content. The AS's and WS's took it on the chin with CU/ROTW. The expansion really took away that market with the lootable weapons and Katarn Armor. Foods seem to be ok since everyone is going through more foods with shorter durations and experimenting with different combinations. Tailors and BE's are getting hosed because the tissues are borked.
The entertainment professions have been totally destroyed. There is absolutely no need for them, other than eye candy and some RP purposes. Again what kind of content could they get? A quest to have people watch them.... That might actually be a tough one to accomplish now.
As for the hybrid professions. I really feel for you guys. The Dev's have said for over a year and few months that you were in the works for a revamp and now things are not going that way anytime soon. Again, most of calls for content for these professions is really tough to figure out, other than smuggler that is. Smugglers can be given missions to smuggle things, but what does that accomplish? A few weeks of the cool factor and then it's just another mission type thing that is similar to JTL missions. Commandos and SL's have called for content as well, but it isn't content that they need, it is more of a purpose. Commando's and SL's should be at the heart of major GCW conflicts. SL'sshould have thier abilities to lead tied to thier rank. As aColonel theyshould be leading multiple groups, giving the groups bonuses and rallying the troops. Commando's should be using Rocket Launchers to destory enemy ground vehicles, mining battle groundsand taking out turrets. Those are the things at least those 2 professions should be doing. Give them a purpose and the content for them will follow. Rangers... well they are a hunter/gatherer andthey can make the field bases/hosiptal for GCW battles. If the field bases actually had a real purpose (ie: mobile cloning) perhaps the Ranger would then be a very valuable asset to in those encounters.
Giving professions a purpose to exist will go much further than trying to give them generic missions that will just get old in less than a months time. Once the real potential/purpose of those professions is realized then perhaps SOE can finally make some real NPC and PC GCW content for us.... than again they are probably going tospend the next 2 years trying fix bugs and re-balance combat.
Wahootey
Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:27 am
#54
Ugh this is the one thing i am really looking forward to can't wait to get in the battle field again.
newvian
Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:36 am
#55
Ya know i see alot of peeps saying they dont mind the wait for frs , and that its ok that other things needed to b fixed first. I personally disagree strongly. I do belive alot of things need to b fixed in game but tbh there have always been things that needed to b fixed and im almost cetain even after the re-insert of the frs sytem there will still b things that the community needs addressed. The thing that I belive alot of jedi are conserned with is frs. I know on the Eclipse server we have lost many many honerable and talented jedi b/c of the lack of high end content that the frs system brings to the game.. i do hope it gets put back in soon.. i would absolutly hate to lose more pre-cu knights to the vaccancy of exciting pvp action..after all pvprating is only a bragging right... hehe .. /forceTossInMy2Cents
Tarja-
Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:42 am
#56
whats the point? why not just go ahead with the FRS. these idiots cant fix buggs anyway, they just brake more stuff. ive just about had it with them. took like 10 months of delays for the CU, and all we get is this crappy system. its gonna be the exact same crap for the FRS, some BS carebare system that tries to make everyone equal. they say a full template padawan should be equal to a lvl 80 non jedi but a knight is stronger. well weve still got xp loss from BH but we CAN'T become any stronger thanks to SOE's delays...pathetic. maybe instead of a bunch of new patches they should stop pusing everything off TC onto live servers, then we wouldnt have all these buggs to start with.
no im not complaining about BH, they give me a nice boost to my pvp rating, almost at 1800 thanks to them.
Message Edited by Tarja- on 07-29-2005 01:43 AM
MasterHeighton
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:30 am
#57
sticky this one please dont like all the ppl who dont know how to look or use the search button asking about frs over and over
MrDoppa
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:43 am
#58
What is giong to be really fun to watch. All the knights that will be walking around overt about 3 or 4 days after the FRS comes back. The gcw will never be the same.
Watch out ye lowly overt cl1. 
Philup
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:46 am
#59
omg thx soe for screwing me over.....i hope they dont put in frs until december or school is gonna be killing me.......no fair!!!!
anigav
Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:52 am
#60
I think this just makes more of a riddle.
Message Edited by anigav on 07-29-2005 07:53 AM
IdrisTycho
Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:00 am
#61
I hope they never create another Force Ranking System.
The point is, all the FRS does is encourage more people to grind and be a Jedi by putting the exciting high-end PVP combat in a Jedi-only system. I think they need a FACTION Ranking System instead.
Sure the Jedi could benefit from this in the same way that they would have benefited from the Force Ranking System, but this system would allow all players to get better and better as they advanced, instead of just Jedi. Admitedly implementing this would be complex, but making Jedi the only endgame worth playing is not a solution to this game's problems.
Xericeph
Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:03 am
#62
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mindspat
Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:18 am
#64
What purpose would the FRS have if everything was as bugged or more as it is now?
starcrusher04
Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:03 am
#65
this is a good thing methinks. plus, the fact that they are putting small bugs "ahead" of the frs, would seem to at least indicate that they have some idea about the frs at this point. or at least the game will get better while they're working on it.
they need to be sure to fix the major jedi bugs before frs, but they should probably look at working on the other profs first. then hit the jedi bugs and then frs in back to back publishes.