Jedi Archive

To all the Jedi who say we had it worse Pre-CURB, well numbers wise I agree. Back when their was TEF I had 5-6 come after me at once.....wasn't very fair so I ran (back then no way to counter FR). Was it fun? Hell yeah, the idea they thought they needed that amount of people to take little oh me . The difference between today and back then is the fact I knew I could take out almost any non-Jedi 1vs1 with my 510 damage saber (the exceptional weapons and poison flinging noobs I hated with a passion) and that is how it should have been since it was fairly hard to grind Jedi back then.

BUT today is completely different. Our profession has been specifically BALANCED to combat BH's 1vs1. Do not forget that when you say "Well back then I had to deal with 5 yada yada yada". Back then I had 85% block and LS damage.......HUGE difference to what we have today. I used to laugh at groups of ranged people but today two competent players will kill anyone. Our skills although weak now, trust me they are going to only get weaker. BH's have the alpha strike.....that is enough. They don't need another helper to even things out when everything is already balanced.

its funny that alot of the jedi who post on the GCW, or Galaxy forums boast about being able to kill 5 bounty hunters at once.

what is?

your PvP skill. period. If you practice you will get good, if you dont, u will lose. just be thankful every loss u take is also practice for next time.

Uh, I have a crappy post-cu saber... It's pretty easy to outdamage me.

Ok I have a jedi and I am one of those who try to avoid the terms.

I bet a lot of do but there are things that happen like...ppl suddenly disban inside a group, spontane spawning NPC etc etc etc we all knew those things.

Following the 5% down per day roule I normally play a while my alt or I chill just out with friends not to provoke sudden meetings I am not prepared for atm. Personally I think its ok if I gonna kill an NPC or dont take care --BH comes I throw my LS far into the woods run towards him and die with a smile on my bloody lips...thats how it is... *shrug* but what would help me a lot would be something like we have at our hands for the glowy check. Maybe the possibility of /checkterminal.

- you are unknown ( means I am a Non - factor the terms don't know me ...happy to be a Non-factor )

- some heard rumors about you ( short before I got on the terms at this phase I should watch my steps )

- they know you are out there ( ok I hit the terminals time to think about playing a while my alter )

- Your name is well known on the planets ( ok that means I am more then often on the terminals and I can wait for the BH to come along for a cup of tea )

I dunno if thats makeable but would help me personally a lot and maybe also some young padawans out there. Maybe also that the time would be reduced from 3 to 2 or 1.5 weeks.

P.S. Sorry for spelling or other mistakes I beg your pardon

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Ikict wrote:

heres an idea to stop the ganking:

Aaukans loot was nerfed because people abused it

FRS was stopped because people abused it (fight club)

Claok was nerfed because people abused it

how about the BH terms get turned of for a day beacause of the abuse of it.

I know, ill get my flame proof jacket

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im down with that. The whole system just seems to cause way to much negativity as it is. Vis campers, gank squads, hate tells, forum flame wars, etc. Id say either rethink and revamp the whole system to isolate and minimise the above listed problems or just scrap it to eliminate those problems. As much hate, and division that the system causes, you wouldnt think it is going to be good for the game overall, the game community andthe gameslongevity.

Message Edited by abbink on 10-10-2005 02:11 PM

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IamCadan wrote:

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Gannarr wrote:

Gosh will you all stop with the Whining. MY GOD it was five times worse during the CU when they could select you by name and have 5 on you stop with the crying you want complete temp handed to you on a silver platter. If two come for you BIG DEAL. Just deal with it and move on its not hard to get xp back with spin groups that give no vis. We had it much harder pre CU then what it is now stop crying and just play.

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I'm with Gannar here. It's nothing like it used to be. Names used to be on the terms and it was a breeze for 4 BH to get the same mission. You can go even further back and you could use tef to have a whole group of non-bounty hunters attack the same mark. Quit the whining and learn how to stay off the terms if you don't want to be hunted.

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Pesonally, having been on both sides of the coin,I believethat no one system of Jedi/BH has been 100%. We have had good pieces in each, but those good aspects are always scrapped with the bad when a revamp comes along. Here's what I propose;

1. Bring back lightsabre damage.

2. Pearl and crystal drops need to be fixed.

3. 1100+ stim D's coupled with ruby bliel are the new 85-90% composite. This needs to be addressed.

4. Jedi healer needs to be brought in line with the CM/Doc realm in terms of healing speed and effectiveness.

5. FS combat skills need to contribute to Jedi.

6. If Jedi bounties are supposed to be 1 on 1, then there should only be one mission generated. This is now feasible seeing as how missions are only generated for those Jedi who are online.

I don't think that BH needs to be nerfed. I had a lot of fun with mine. I did NPC missions exclusively with the exception of killing one AFK loot **edit** Knight. I think that BH's are pretty much good the way they are, except for the stim D problem. I'd rather see Jedi power balanced than BH power nerfed. Personally, I think the Dev's have promised quite a bit with Jedi that they have failed to deliver on.

Message Edited by -HadesBabe- on 10-10-2005 02:41 PM

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Hulke wrote:

This has been posted already TONS of times.

Even though your name isoff the terms they can still identify you by

1. The text that goes with your mission is unique for you

2. The payout

All they have to do is have one guy select a mission and then he tells the others the exact payout and text for the mission.

Been happening for a while now

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i have tested this with another bh on my server and the results are always the same.

the description is the same however the payout that the terms show is diff.too get the same mission is still hard the description of the mission is unique too you somewhat.because even though another bh can pull the same description and get you. they can also pull another jedi and believe me that takes alot of time especially when it is during prime hours.

it only gets easier too pull the same is when it is near server reset because there arent many of you on so it can be rather easy.other than that as a mbh it is not worth my time effort or pain in the rear too even try it.

instead of the nerf bat swinging in all directions just pay closer attention and stay off the terms.then you will not have any bh come for you.

i normally hunt alone and i do not actively try too get same mission as any other bh because lets face it im greedy but if i see a bh i know and we realize we have same mission then by all means i will help them as they will help me.

flame on

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Nastypope wrote:

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DoctorFett wrote:

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zerotalent wrote:

Changing words around doesn't make it true

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the last 3 publishes have been nothing than screwing with other proffesions and somewhat helping jedi, except maybe the slight (and i mean slight) upgrade of the loot system for npc bounties

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Plz but the crack pipe down it been a nerf feast for Jedi since the CU!

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Nerf Fest my foot when ROTW came out that was the first step, the devs gave u a whole friggin planet to hide on. Then when Pub 20 came out not only would a bh system of hunting and tracking down targets get screwed, up but the jedi would get more relif, and im not talking about those stupid little buffs I here jedi complaining about not working all of the time, iam talking about the little glitches that invole ur xp, ur quests to achevive jedi, ur precious little village, and those darn shrines that act as a better cloning facility. The last publishes have been based on nothing but making sure those work properly making sure they keep their guenia pigs happy. TToO wont be any diffrent, from what ive read so far, mosts of the games quests will involve nothing but making jedi better. I as a bounty hunter have found it increasingly hard to deal with changes. But ive learned to accept them because it seems only anything gets done when a jedi complains.

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DoctorFett wrote:

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Nastypope wrote:

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DoctorFett wrote:

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zerotalent wrote:

Changing words around doesn't make it true

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the last 3 publishes have been nothing than screwing with other proffesions and somewhat helping jedi, except maybe the slight (and i mean slight) upgrade of the loot system for npc bounties

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Plz but the crack pipe down it been a nerf feast for Jedi since the CU!

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Nerf Fest my foot when ROTW came out that was the first step, the devs gave u a whole friggin planet to hide on. Then when Pub 20 came out not only would a bh system of hunting and tracking down targets get screwed, up but the jedi would get more relif, and im not talking about those stupid little buffs I here jedi complaining about not working all of the time, iam talking about the little glitches that invole ur xp, ur quests to achevive jedi, ur precious little village, and those darn shrines that act as a better cloning facility. The last publishes have been based on nothing but making sure those work properly making sure they keep their guenia pigs happy. TToO wont be any diffrent, from what ive read so far, mosts of the games quests will involve nothing but making jedi better. I as a bounty hunter have found it increasingly hard to deal with changes. But ive learned to accept them because it seems only anything gets done when a jedi complains.

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Baciacca wrote:

Unfortunately I need the way this is down exactly step by step for anything to be done. I know there has been discussion about prices and such things as tell tell signs for how this is done but I need a step by step for the Devs. I have only reproduced this late at night on Tempest and because its such a lowly populated server that's not really a good example.

Edit: PM me step by steps please. Lets not put this out there for the public. I know that some people already know how but that still does not mean we need to educate people who dont already know. Thanks in advance.

Message Edited by Baciacca on 10-10-2005 10:48 AM

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Baciacca,

The reason no one is sending you the method IS......BECAUSE THERE IS NO METHOD. I have asked every BH on Valcyn if they know how...nobody knows how...I have tried with 2 BH friends the very methods posted in this thread....We tried taking same values, same description everything IT DOES NOT WORK. You can't even pull the same Jedi twice this way. Sometimes you get the same Jedi with totally different prices and description. ONE TIME me and 2 BH friends managed to pull the same guy on Endor....GUESS WHAT we all had different payouts, it was 2 am and I think it was just a matter of so few Jedi on a weeknight. You know what he was Master Defender and 3 of us with droids couldn't kill him....I would say he is OVERPOWERED.

You Jedi need to stop your crying about multiple BH's lol The nerf was fullyimplemented, we haven't found the magic formula. If we had I gaurentee you alot more of you would be dead with negative xp. Give the DEV's some credit its not that difficult to randomize 3 elements that a BH sees in the term window ( Giver, Price, and Description ).

Frankly, I don't know how you stand these guys....they cry so much. When Iunlocked my Jedi, I had a swordsman and tkm gank me from saber TEF in the firsthour minutes...they just happened to be flying by...DEAD...GEEZ guys you don't realize how Carebear Jedi has become.