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Thread: Being a jedi just isnt fun anymore....

Daroneji
Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:55 am
#40

err sorry wildcat, replies to other posts aren't working for some reason, that comment wasn't geared towards yourself, but to godsith
daz007
Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:59 am
#41






Nurse25 wrote:





Darkvenegence wrote:

ive waited a few days for the flames to die down before posting this,i didnt want to get involved with the rioting on here,it seems to have died down somewhat now so here goes,


its being made abundantly clear to us by SOE that jedi players are no longer welcome in the world of SWG,the CU brought a massive nerf to our proffesion that was incredibly unpopular,the devs dont care,they kept it anyways,they didnt care,then they nerf us again by adding a 6 second timer on our heals,which was completely un-neccesary,at that point the only thing that made us slightly stronger than a normal toon was our ability to heal,so what do the devs do?..the take away our ability to heal well and pass it over to normal toons who then use it in BH templates against us,


then they fix elemental damage which gave us a boost in our damage but at the same time they gave BH the ability to resist 75% of the AB,without toughening us up any so now jedi dont have the ability to tank each other,but BH/melee stackers and any other proffesion who can wear armourcan absorb most of our damage through insane slices on armour and insane energy resists,at this point enough was enough,we had a glaring inbalance in the fact that we cant do enough damage to normal players but do too much damage to each other,this was the point where SOE should have started fixing what they had broken,but instead they continue to nerf our proffesion


so now we're up to this patch,where BH have the abilty to chain snare us,and group with a SL to do insane damage to us,despite the fact that outside help is allegedaly not allowed,so heres whats happening,SOE is trying to force jedi into hiding,by beefing up BH and at the same time making BH stronger and giving them more ways to kill us,before this patch they were already overpowered and this just tips the scales to ridiculous levels,so heres how it goes,if you get on the terms,a BH is gonna come along,chain snare you,and start shooting at you with a 1257 max damage rifle thats only cert for MBH,whilst being grouped with a SL and bypass any armour you might have,so we cant get close enough to fight,and we cant run,our templates have been made useless to BH,they have free reign to do whatever the hell they choose


now heres my problem,the only things that are even remotely fun in this game as a full template jedi cause vis,i.e killing NPC's for loot like necrosis,or nightsisters,and PvP,which again causes vis,but if we choose to go do something fun,ulimitely we're gonna have some 12 year old BH who thinks he's the pwnzor come along and kill us cause theres nothing we can do about it,so SOE have sucked ALL the fun out of being a jedi,this in my honest opinion is incredibly bad business and disrespectul to its paying customers,SOE literally encouraged us to become jedi with all the advertisments and the glorifying they done about it in order to sell more copies of the game,so we all bought into it like a bunch of idiots and kept paying their fee to play as a jedi,but now SOE have done a 180 and decided that we're not allowed to be jedi anymore,and they want us to go play our alts instead,i for one refuse to go play my alt,i spent months unlocking and grinding only to have it taken away by flip floppers who change their mind more than i change my underwear,id rather cancel my account,because pure and simply put SOE dont care about us,all they care about is our money,i wouldnt go to a shop who had this kind of attitude so why should i allow SOE to do it?





I agree 100% ! Thank You for saying this..it is well said and it is true. Not one of us really knows why SOE would make such a poor business decision to its most loyal customer base. It's Illogical.






how being a Jedi makes you more loyal a customer then I whodoesn't havenor wants to be Jedi? please explain.




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cahn-a-licious
Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:12 am
#42






Darkvenegence wrote:

ive waited a few days for the flames to die down before posting this,i didnt want to get involved with the rioting on here,it seems to have died down somewhat now so here goes,


its being made abundantly clear to us by SOE that jedi players are no longer welcome in the world of SWG,the CU brought a massive nerf to our proffesion that was incredibly unpopular,the devs dont care,they kept it anyways,they didnt care,then they nerf us again by adding a 6 second timer on our heals,which was completely un-neccesary,at that point the only thing that made us slightly stronger than a normal toon was our ability to heal,so what do the devs do?..the take away our ability to heal well and pass it over to normal toons who then use it in BH templates against us,


then they fix elemental damage which gave us a boost in our damage but at the same time they gave BH the ability to resist 75% of the AB,without toughening us up any so now jedi dont have the ability to tank each other,but BH/melee stackers and any other proffesion who can wear armourcan absorb most of our damage through insane slices on armour and insane energy resists,at this point enough was enough,we had a glaring inbalance in the fact that we cant do enough damage to normal players but do too much damage to each other,this was the point where SOE should have started fixing what they had broken,but instead they continue to nerf our proffesion


so now we're up to this patch,where BH have the abilty to chain snare us,and group with a SL to do insane damage to us,despite the fact that outside help is allegedaly not allowed,so heres whats happening,SOE is trying to force jedi into hiding,by beefing up BH and at the same time making BH stronger and giving them more ways to kill us,before this patch they were already overpowered and this just tips the scales to ridiculous levels,so heres how it goes,if you get on the terms,a BH is gonna come along,chain snare you,and start shooting at you with a 1257 max damage rifle thats only cert for MBH,whilst being grouped with a SL and bypass any armour you might have,so we cant get close enough to fight,and we cant run,our templates have been made useless to BH,they have free reign to do whatever the hell they choose


now heres my problem,the only things that are even remotely fun in this game as a full template jedi cause vis,i.e killing NPC's for loot like necrosis,or nightsisters,and PvP,which again causes vis,but if we choose to go do something fun,ulimitely we're gonna have some 12 year old BH who thinks he's the pwnzor come along and kill us cause theres nothing we can do about it,so SOE have sucked ALL the fun out of being a jedi,this in my honest opinion is incredibly bad business and disrespectul to its paying customers,SOE literally encouraged us to become jedi with all the advertisments and the glorifying they done about it in order to sell more copies of the game,so we all bought into it like a bunch of idiots and kept paying their fee to play as a jedi,but now SOE have done a 180 and decided that we're not allowed to be jedi anymore,and they want us to go play our alts instead,i for one refuse to go play my alt,i spent months unlocking and grinding only to have it taken away by flip floppers who change their mind more than i change my underwear,id rather cancel my account,because pure and simply put SOE dont care about us,all they care about is our money,i wouldnt go to a shop who had this kind of attitude so why should i allow SOE to do it?





good post....at this point i just want some sort of direction from soe to be communiacted....that is all....i promise



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Darkvenegence
Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:08 am
#43






koldbones wrote:





daz007 wrote:





Nurse25 wrote:





Darkvenegence wrote:

ive waited a few days for the flames to die down before posting this,i didnt want to get involved with the rioting on here,it seems to have died down somewhat now so here goes,


its being made abundantly clear to us by SOE that jedi players are no longer welcome in the world of SWG,the CU brought a massive nerf to our proffesion that was incredibly unpopular,the devs dont care,they kept it anyways,they didnt care,then they nerf us again by adding a 6 second timer on our heals,which was completely un-neccesary,at that point the only thing that made us slightly stronger than a normal toon was our ability to heal,so what do the devs do?..the take away our ability to heal well and pass it over to normal toons who then use it in BH templates against us,


then they fix elemental damage which gave us a boost in our damage but at the same time they gave BH the ability to resist 75% of the AB,without toughening us up any so now jedi dont have the ability to tank each other,but BH/melee stackers and any other proffesion who can wear armourcan absorb most of our damage through insane slices on armour and insane energy resists,at this point enough was enough,we had a glaring inbalance in the fact that we cant do enough damage to normal players but do too much damage to each other,this was the point where SOE should have started fixing what they had broken,but instead they continue to nerf our proffesion


so now we're up to this patch,where BH have the abilty to chain snare us,and group with a SL to do insane damage to us,despite the fact that outside help is allegedaly not allowed,so heres whats happening,SOE is trying to force jedi into hiding,by beefing up BH and at the same time making BH stronger and giving them more ways to kill us,before this patch they were already overpowered and this just tips the scales to ridiculous levels,so heres how it goes,if you get on the terms,a BH is gonna come along,chain snare you,and start shooting at you with a 1257 max damage rifle thats only cert for MBH,whilst being grouped with a SL and bypass any armour you might have,so we cant get close enough to fight,and we cant run,our templates have been made useless to BH,they have free reign to do whatever the hell they choose


now heres my problem,the only things that are even remotely fun in this game as a full template jedi cause vis,i.e killing NPC's for loot like necrosis,or nightsisters,and PvP,which again causes vis,but if we choose to go do something fun,ulimitely we're gonna have some 12 year old BH who thinks he's the pwnzor come along and kill us cause theres nothing we can do about it,so SOE have sucked ALL the fun out of being a jedi,this in my honest opinion is incredibly bad business and disrespectul to its paying customers,SOE literally encouraged us to become jedi with all the advertisments and the glorifying they done about it in order to sell more copies of the game,so we all bought into it like a bunch of idiots and kept paying their fee to play as a jedi,but now SOE have done a 180 and decided that we're not allowed to be jedi anymore,and they want us to go play our alts instead,i for one refuse to go play my alt,i spent months unlocking and grinding only to have it taken away by flip floppers who change their mind more than i change my underwear,id rather cancel my account,because pure and simply put SOE dont care about us,all they care about is our money,i wouldnt go to a shop who had this kind of attitude so why should i allow SOE to do it?





I agree 100% ! Thank You for saying this..it is well said and it is true. Not one of us really knows why SOE would make such a poor business decision to its most loyal customer base. It's Illogical.






how being a Jedi makes you more loyal a customer then I whodoesn't havenor wants to be Jedi? please explain.


The regular player base does not have to endure all nerfing.









agreed,and it isnt fair for jedi to have to endure them either,what should be happening is we should look at the reasons WHY we're being nerfed?..other players dont like being dominated by jedi,thats fair enough i can see the point in that,but it isnt fair to nerf one proffesion into oblivion to make another happy that makes no sense,so what needs to happen is we need to be removed from the GCW and only be able to fight each other in dark vs light shadow wars ,PvP has pretty much became that way now anyways,its more like jedi wars that star wars,so that negates the need for us to be nerfed when we cant kill weaker players,then if they want us out of major cities just make it so we cant use force powers in major cities unless we're attacked by a BH,i know this isnt the perfect solution but its a helluva lot better than being continually nerfed and being used as SOE's whipping boy,anything that stops us from feeling alienated is better than whats happening right now in my opinion



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Nefretti
Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:13 am
#44

Wow, that has to be the longest run-on sentence EVER!



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Darkvenegence
Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:20 am
#45






Nefretti wrote:
Wow, that has to be the longest run-on sentence EVER!





wow,that has to be the most pointless post EVER!



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dzsoti
Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:46 am
#46

Well spoken! Its a joke what they have done to us.And they are advertising the new expansion with jedi..... Isnt it ridicilous a bit - Come buy our game and u can become a jedi as powerfull as a nuna...



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Darkvenegence
Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:02 am
#47






dzsoti wrote:

Well spoken! Its a joke what they have done to us.And they are advertising the new expansion with jedi..... Isnt it ridicilous a bit - Come buy our game and u can become a jedi as powerfull as a nuna...





or come to SOE where we give with one hand and take with the other



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felipz
Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:03 am
#48

Not only jedi but they nerfed really bad some blasts animations / sounds which is very... not cool.



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rizzacathon
Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:21 am
#49

jedi are being nerfed bad now cause of all the cry baby girl scouts that have unlocked. i agree some of the penalties in the past have been extremly harsh but the nonstop cring by some people that have attained their jedi but not been able to put up with the risk is what is killing you.


the devs have stated at one time that jedi would have great power but great risk to off balance it. as more and more whinny children gain the jedi slot and are not able to hang with the risk they knew they were getting the more and more you will be nerfed.


as for the whinning about nonstop nerfing not being fun, well several other professions can feel your pain. bh went from being great to lousy to being great again. smuggler gets nerfs after nerfs and flat out ignored for years on end, after devs stated "it was in need of the most love". you can just hope that the pendelum swings back into your favor eventually and that the little children have quit by then so as to not nerf you again.


Miffo
Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:29 am
#50

YOu are right its no longer fun . I always had fun pvping was alot more fun preCU but ok postCU was fun. But all these snares and root just ruin pvp. Make it more into gank then fun.


How to improve


- Remove root (I mean cmon how can u shoot some1 so he cant move? is it like a shot where a robe gets wrapped around your legs?)

- Remove the snare stacking / IT bugs with FR2+burst, Make it so that they can be healed just like a wound or state

- let armorbreak only work on ACTUAL armor


HOW DO YOU BREAK THE ARMOR OF SOME1 WHO's ARMOR IS ACTUALLY JUST HIM TOUGHENING UP?



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Badook
Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:35 am
#51



I am without no will to play with mine jedi, probably I go to play the espansion and very probably I go to cancel my account. I feel much lack of the time pre-cu

The profession jedi is each worse time...



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Darkvenegence
Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:00 pm
#52






rizzacathon wrote:

jedi are being nerfed bad now cause of all the cry baby girl scouts that have unlocked. i agree some of the penalties in the past have been extremly harsh but the nonstop cring by some people that have attained their jedi but not been able to put up with the risk is what is killing you.


the devs have stated at one time that jedi would have great power but great risk to off balance it. as more and more whinny children gain the jedi slot and are not able to hang with the risk they knew they were getting the more and more you will be nerfed.


as for the whinning about nonstop nerfing not being fun, well several other professions can feel your pain. bh went from being great to lousy to being great again. smuggler gets nerfs after nerfs and flat out ignored for years on end, after devs stated "it was in need of the most love". you can just hope that the pendelum swings back into your favor eventually and that the little children have quit by then so as to not nerf you again.







sadly i have to agree with much of what you say,like ive sad before tho theres ways to rectify the problem other players have with jedi without destroying everything fun about it,if the devs would just use a little imagination,i mean that IS what we're paying them for isnt it?



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