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Thread: Ok, I have seen it several times now, .... and I still dont get it.

Gohma_Manovich
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:54 am
#40


theres no problem in dealing with BH's unless were AFk or the BH abuses some flaw in the system



only BH a jedi should have a bit of trouble with are CM/BH





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LordBranamar
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:56 am
#41






Gohma_Manovich wrote:


theres no problem in dealing with BH's unless were AFk or the BH abuses some flaw in the system



only BH a jedi should have a bit of trouble with are CM/BH








MCM/MBH fights jedi to a standstill. Thats not winning, thats playing the odds.


MBH/MR/0020medic is devastating with good equipment and a few minutes of preperation.


BladeOConner
Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:58 am
#42

I am MLS/MDef xxx2 Enhancer, 3xxx heal and have no problems surviving. Last night i took a BH down after I healed my mind a a bit cuz i had just finished spinning lair. after a short regen and taking a Holo and Power Crystal I chased him and waited for his mind to drain. Snare, Saber trow(KD) head, body, leg, Power hit down to 1/4 life body hit deathblow. What needs to be done to defeat them is wear them down (mind) don't waste time with states and the rest just snare and hit them till they start running low on mind then let them have it....



The only thing that i need to improve my template is better Crystals/Pearls cuz my dps is 411. My last time i got beat was after my template was done and i had Saber Dervish on as an auto attack. I was doing a lvl 82 Piket lair.......thats all that needs to be said.. BH hit me twice for maybe 200 dmg.....lol





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chewboywa
Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:02 am
#43


LordBranamar wrote:


Gohma_Manovich wrote:

theres no problem in dealing with BH's unless were AFk or the BH abuses some flaw in the system

only BH a jedi should have a bit of trouble with are CM/BH




MCM/MBH fights jedi to a standstill. Thats not winning, thats playing the odds.

MBH/MR/0020medic is devastating with good equipment and a few minutes of preperation.




I am sorry to say this my friend, but I find a master bounty hunter master pistoleer CM 4000 or master bounty hunter with some squad leader to be more challenging to fight than a master bounty hunter master rifleman.



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Jedi_Xan
Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:20 am
#44


I am a m rifleman, and with my rifle, and 8130 resist armor, with pistols xx44 I was hard to beat.


speed 120; accuracy 297 (with pyro over 400); melee defense 200; ranged defense 250 (add food and that pushes to over 250/300)


My rifle is 1147 max damage/ 87 sac (less -30% sac pup) and speed sliced.


I hit 1200 stim d's with ruby bliel and a +2000 health buff crystal when I need it.


And this is just with a rifle.


head shot

body

torso

leg shot

stopping shot

adv crit

underhand

quick draw

startle

confusion

blind


I can lay on the states from 60 m and at amind numbing speed.


my food and drink consists of crates of the very best foods this server has to offer; breath of heaven, wine, brandy, canape, synthsteak, exoprotein wafers, blob candy, scrimpi, snowcake, pikata, parawan, k18.


giggledust, and a +900 mind crystal wrap out my arsenal.


Just for giggles I can pull out a probot cl30 pecking away at a consistent 100 damage per tick.



Now, of course I am only a shadow of what I once was, having used alot of xp to put into FS skills, but I can still can take on anyboss mark npc without blinking.

Message Edited by Jedi_Xan on 09-06-2005 02:20 PM



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LandonRyuu
Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:31 am
#45



Jedi_Xan wrote:
How jedi feel that that they are not powerful. I watched a guildmate jedi (mdef/mls enh xxx2/heal 3xxx) take down what was Sunday his 29th straight win against a BH. In none of the fights was he ever in trouble. I have the benefit of hearing him on ventrilo, and he literally wiped the floor with these guys. Ok, well, I am used to seeing this from him. I guess he is just really good at his template... but then, on Saturday, I saw another Jedi with avery different template (not sure of template, but he had powers and enhancer for sure) wipe the floor with a bh. So after deliberating over the events that I watched, I concluded that....
I don't understand why some of you have such a problem against BH's while others don't even sweat them. The problem seems to me that the ability to beat a bh is not in the template? It would appear to me that the ability to kill any given template bh rests strictly in the players abilities. Not in the template they have. So, to put it bluntly, if you cant beat a bh, you just need to practice learning your template.





Two profs:

MBH/MCM.

Equipment:

At least 7000 resist energy armor (8000 preferable)

BHs will take the encumbrance for the resists this armor provides and just throw their combat speed debuff to make up the difference between your speed and theirs.

Let's see how many of those he beats in a row.
chewboywa
Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:47 am
#46


Jedi_Xan wrote:

I am a m rifleman, and with my rifle, and 8130 resist armor, with pistols xx44 I was hard to beat.

speed 120; accuracy 297 (with pyro over 400); melee defense 200; ranged defense 250 (add food and that pushes to over 250/300)

My rifle is 1147 max damage/ 87 sac (less -30% sac pup) and speed sliced.
I hit 1200 stim d's with ruby bliel and a +2000 health buff crystal when I need it.
And this is just with a rifle.
head shot
body
torso
leg shot
stopping shot
adv crit
underhand
quick draw
startle
confusion
blind
I can lay on the states from 60 m and at a mind numbing speed.
my food and drink consists of crates of the very best foods this server has to offer; breath of heaven, wine, brandy, canape, synthsteak, exoprotein wafers, blob candy, scrimpi, snowcake, pikata, parawan, k18.
giggledust, and a +900 mind crystal wrap out my arsenal.
Just for giggles I can pull out a probot cl30 pecking away at a consistent 100 damage per tick.
Now, of course I am only a shadow of what I once was, having used alot of xp to put into FS skills, but I can still can take on any boss mark npc without blinking.

Message Edited by Jedi_Xan on 09-06-2005 02:20 PM




If any of those can get past saber block and 1500 Jedi heal and 250 infusion, damage is not everything, a master pistoleer is deemed to be more challenging due to:

quickdraw which allows you to shoot the next attack in 1 second
warning shot
intimidate shot which greatly reduces saber damage
stopping shot
disarming shot

and high melee defense up to 260-280 with attachments and clothing: one bounty hunter using warning, intimidate, confusion shot and duelist stance with all states landed will reduce my lightsaber damage by around 200 points in damage trying to get through his +8000 energy armor and with warning shot I will be easier to hit. A bounty hunter with squad leader with even more defense of over 300 potential melee and ranged painting me with volley fire will do roughly 15% more damage and can have a battle droid do extra damage as well not to mention missing him almost every second attack.

That used by a double capped scatter pistol with a damage powerup will keep me busy rather than a rifleman trying to stay out of my range just plain spending his or her time dealing out damage I can easily mitigate because if I get in your range you better have stims ready.

With the foods you listed, I use most of those as well and a master force wielder with some accuracy attachments and Denutrium pyro will do a whole lot of pain to you, I have choked a rifleman for over 620 points (1250 initial) per tick and force lightning unresisted for over 1300. At least a master rifleman or master combat medic bounty hunter has so far been the easiest to defeat out of all the other templates.

But I am sure most of you master bounty hunters with master rifleman say you have no problems probably mostly due to Jedi with combat level 60 or less or are not paying attention.



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