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Thread: Master Powers

Colehuevuehajin
Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:27 am
#40






khargash wrote:





Zorgnemer wrote:

I changed my template to Mpowers/4000 healer/4400 defender/4004 enhancer.


So far I've beaten a MLS/Defender and a MLS/Enhancer. It's pretty much 50/50.


I'd say powers is definately viable.






Nice!

Thing is, i think sabres are likely to get better than they currently are.

I'm wondering about Mdef / Mpowers / LS 0404.
Do you find that you really do need the healer that you have, and the enhancer? Are you using heal a lot, or would the bacta stims be sufficient in many situations?
Would you have run out of force without Channel?





yeah that was another template i had in mind but the lack of healing was what i was worried about. anyone have any input?



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Jedi_Sanderson
Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:16 am
#41

From what i have understood from testers, the new stimpacks are no way enough to heal in pvp. They have a huge delay timer, and force heals have none now.




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WookieOgre
Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:19 am
#42






Jedi_Sanderson wrote:

From what i have understood from testers, the new stimpacks are no way enough to heal in pvp. They have a huge delay timer, and force heals have none now.






That is completely correct. I noticed no windups on Healing (or FR for that matter). It was nice to heal and believe me you need to heal when a ranged player is pounding you and if you plan to fight another Jedi without healing, you will die. Maybe Stasis could be used to freeze your opponent as you heal your health and then attack again. I couldn't test it since my respec went fubar.
Zorgnemer
Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:20 am
#43



Colehuevuehajin wrote:


khargash wrote:


Zorgnemer wrote:
I changed my template to Mpowers/4000 healer/4400 defender/4004 enhancer.
So far I've beaten a MLS/Defender and a MLS/Enhancer. It's pretty much 50/50.
I'd say powers is definately viable.




Nice!

Thing is, i think sabres are likely to get better than they currently are.

I'm wondering about Mdef / Mpowers / LS 0404.
Do you find that you really do need the healer that you have, and the enhancer? Are you using heal a lot, or would the bacta stims be sufficient in many situations?
Would you have run out of force without Channel?


yeah that was another template i had in mind but the lack of healing was what i was worried about. anyone have any input?





I do use heal a lot. Lightsabers are hitting me for close to 1000 damage, if I don't heal I don't last 10 seconds.
Almost every fight I've had came down to who ran out of fp first. Channel has been a big help in those cases, getting off one last choke.
With pvp damage close to 1000, those bacta stims aren't nearly enough in pvp.



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Bermag
Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:21 am
#44






Jedi_Sanderson wrote:

From what i have understood from testers, the new stimpacks are no way enough to heal in pvp. They have a huge delay timer, and force heals have none now.






yes 60 sec I think. However there is a new food that might reduce the wait time for stims.



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khargash
Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:27 am
#45



Zorgnemer wrote:
I do use heal a lot. Lightsabers are hitting me for close to 1000 damage, if I don't heal I don't last 10 seconds.
Almost every fight I've had came down to who ran out of fp first. Channel has been a big help in those cases, getting off one last choke.
With pvp damage close to 1000, those bacta stims aren't nearly enough in pvp.



Great answer.

I'm interested in the fact you fought a MDef and a Menh. Those were the two i thought powers would have problems with, as they have defenses against powers. Were you utilising Force Breach, or didn't you need to?

Jedi_Sanderson
Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:29 am
#46






khargash wrote:





Zorgnemer wrote:
I do use heal a lot. Lightsabers are hitting me for close to 1000 damage, if I don't heal I don't last 10 seconds.
Almost every fight I've had came down to who ran out of fp first. Channel has been a big help in those cases, getting off one last choke.
With pvp damage close to 1000, those bacta stims aren't nearly enough in pvp.





Great answer.

I'm interested in the fact you fought a MDef and a Menh. Those were the two i thought powers would have problems with, as they have defenses against powers. Were you utilising Force Breach, or didn't you need to?





Breach is confirmed not working atm, so this testing will be without.




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Egaro
Thu May 05, 2005 9:07 am
#47

This has been my template since the CU started:


Master Powers

Healer 4240

Enhancer 3404

Novice Defender


I was actually doing OK. I could kill a level 80 mob solo, although it took 1/2 of my force bar to do it.

I could hold my own against BH.


I was so happy- it's what I always wanted. I was seriously SO HAPPY.


A few days ago they added a warm-up onto lightning. I was like, "no big deal, I can use other force attacks."


Now that they have taken Choke away, I will have to go back to lightsabers, I guess. If they switch Choke back later, and I can't get it because the respec is over, I will be pretty upset.


Seriously, I was really, really happy, and it's totally gone now. For a year of playing, I got what I always wanted for one week, and then they took it away.


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FeydNebar
Thu May 05, 2005 9:13 am
#48

Yes, Wielder has been nerfed big time. I never thought I'd say this but I am finally sick of the constant round of rushed patches, adjustemnts and nerfs.


If they don't fix Powers, I'll....


Ok I wont say it, but you know what I'm thinking.



Barb-Wire
Thu May 05, 2005 9:15 am
#49






FeydNebar wrote:

Yes, Wielder has been nerfed big time. I never thought I'd say this but I am finally sick of the constant round of rushed patches, adjustemnts and nerfs.


If they don't fix Powers, I'll.... eat a tater-tot


Ok I wont say it, but you know what I'm thinking.







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egha
Sun May 08, 2005 11:57 pm
#50

when are we going to get some lovin, i mean, come on man throw us a freaking bone. powers needs to be bumped up a bit, in damage and bumped down alittle more in fc......



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Lbocca
Mon May 09, 2005 1:36 am
#51

I have to agree, but I'm not waiting around for said "lovin'". I'm changing to defender. Ican kill non jedi with my template, ranged professions are theeasiest, but when it comes to fighting jedi, I always run out of force first. In PvE (speaking about high mobs like krayts or DWB uglies) I have to be the one to back away because getting hit will doom me, and I KNOW that none of the damage I do is high or quick enough to stand up to them. I like Force choke, love force cloak. Both are a kinda "hangin with your friends hey check this out" type specials. Intimidate is great, it can help out in a group and force weaken (even though I'm not sure it completely works) does some damage that just adds a new element to fighting. But if I want to be competitive when the FRS comes out, or even to go out there and help people in the GCW, Powers doesn't seem to be the too great of a choice. I hope they fix it, and I envy you guys that have the patience to stick with it.


Leroxee
Mon May 09, 2005 1:40 am
#52

I really hoope we find out soon, my template at the moment is powes, ive had it b4 it got nerfed, but i need to know if choke will get stacked again b4 respec goes, i dont wana be stuck with a nerfed combat prof>>>>
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