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Thread: Thunderheart acknowledges (post deleted) lightsaber speed as bug. Tiggs acknowledges LS Speed bug

Seifer187
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:11 am
#27






Baciacca wrote:





delanstarrunner wrote:




KorvacL wrote:
Blah blah blah, thats all I ever here hearfrom SOE...






Update your sound drivers . . .





Is that kinda like "Get a new Video Card to help clear your visibility".




omg that was classic i loved that one




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SJH
Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:44 am
#28







Thunderheart wrote:






Kryptic2 wrote:

Any chance of getting Jedi saber speed problems acknowleged as a bug you are aware of?


Kryptic



Yes, it is an issue we are aware of.


Sorry but I don't have an ETA atm...






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Metalsaber
Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:46 pm
#29



Phantom513 wrote:


Seifer187 wrote:


Baciacca wrote:


delanstarrunner wrote:

KorvacL wrote:
Blah blah blah, thats all I ever here hear from SOE...



Update your sound drivers . . .



Is that kinda like "Get a new Video Card to help clear your visibility".


omg that was classic i loved that one



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definately one of the best responses ever. I bet that csr got promoted.



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cahn-a-licious
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:27 am
#30






EmpireHunter14 wrote:

you can use it aslong as you don't have a speed buff at the same time.





dear god pay attention.......saber speed not force speed, where have you been?



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i used to be 4 accts out of 450k active accts
then 2 accts out of 250k
then 1 out of 200k
now 0 of 175k as of dec 25th....
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cahn-a-licious
Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:30 am
#31






Zarqon wrote:





twighead wrote:



a start yes. but exactly which speed problem is he acknowledging? the bug where you have to remove and replace pearls? the cool down timer bug? or the one everyone want's fixed, which is the saber actually atacking at your properly moded speed?




Actually, I did some tests less than a week ago, and modded saber speed seems to work just fine.






then your testing was wrong, actually. that or you are the only jedi in swg with accurate speed. i am guessing the first is true.



Keed-Jedi
Cahn-not
I am a SOE customer. Now, if they would only treat me like one...
i used to be 4 accts out of 450k active accts
then 2 accts out of 250k
then 1 out of 200k
now 0 of 175k as of dec 25th....
i am a soe shareholder and do know how many active accts there are.
Zarqon
Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:33 am
#32




cahn-a-licious wrote:



Zarqon wrote:



twighead wrote:
a start yes. but exactly which speed problem is he acknowledging? the bug where you have to remove and replace pearls? the cool down timer bug? or the one everyone want's fixed, which is the saber actually atacking at your properly moded speed?



Actually, I did some tests less than a week ago, and modded saber speed seems to work just fine.



then your testing was wrong, actually. that or you are the only jedi in swg with accurate speed. i am guessing the first is true.



You can read about the tests yourself. I've posted themhere . The conclusion was that my swing time was around 3 seconds with17 in LS speed and around 2.1 seconds with 87 in LS speed, using the same special attacks in both cases. This tells me modded speed works. Please provide some of your own tests if you say something else.

Message Edited by Zarqon on 09-18-2005 02:35 PM




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gera
Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:40 am
#33


aka.


Ok, we know wich lightbulb we need to replace, but we don't have a spare in the building, we are checking the schedule to see when someone can go to the departement store and buy a new one. it requires a lot of precious dev time we just can't spare atm...




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cahn-a-licious
Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:29 am
#34






Zarqon wrote:




cahn-a-licious wrote:



Zarqon wrote:



twighead wrote:
a start yes. but exactly which speed problem is he acknowledging? the bug where you have to remove and replace pearls? the cool down timer bug? or the one everyone want's fixed, which is the saber actually atacking at your properly moded speed?



Actually, I did some tests less than a week ago, and modded saber speed seems to work just fine.



then your testing was wrong, actually. that or you are the only jedi in swg with accurate speed. i am guessing the first is true.



You can read about the tests yourself. I've posted themhere . The conclusion was that my swing time was around 3 seconds with17 in LS speed and around 2.1 seconds with 87 in LS speed, using the same special attacks in both cases. This tells me modded speed works. Please provide some of your own tests if you say something else.

Message Edited by Zarqon on 09-18-2005 02:35 PM




you are swinging at the exact same speed as your sabers base spd...with only like novice sabers you will swing at that no materr what you do. your tests are not reflective of every jedi that has a modded saber spd of around 1. i not need to test to know that i do not ever swing at my modded spd of 1.02. you can continue to be the only one that has their speed fixed.....your 3.0 spd is horrendous and therefore no one would ever know the wiser.



Keed-Jedi
Cahn-not
I am a SOE customer. Now, if they would only treat me like one...
i used to be 4 accts out of 450k active accts
then 2 accts out of 250k
then 1 out of 200k
now 0 of 175k as of dec 25th....
i am a soe shareholder and do know how many active accts there are.
Zarqon
Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:20 am
#35






cahn-a-licious wrote:



you are swinging at the exact same speed as your sabers base spd...with only like novice sabers you will swing at that no materr what you do. your tests are not reflective of every jedi that has a modded saber spd of around 1. i not need to test to know that i do not ever swing at my modded spd of 1.02. you can continue to be the only one that has their speed fixed.....your 3.0 spd is horrendous and therefore no one would ever know the wiser.





Look here... you are NOT supposed to be able to swing at your modded speed when you are using a SPECIAL attack.


All attacks have 1 primary cool down, for the attack itself. And 1 secondary cool downthat is for allother attacks. All attacks also have a time DELAY FACTOR. For saber hit this is close to 1 and you swing close to your modded speed. For advanced attacks such as headhit, this is higher, maybe around 1.5, if you look at tests done for other professions. Note that my own tests agree with this, as it predicts a delay factor of 2.13/1.49 = 1.43.


Nevertheless, there are many who still doesn't believe it works, so I will try to make some more tests tonight.






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iskareot
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:28 am
#36






Baciacca wrote:





delanstarrunner wrote:




KorvacL wrote:
Blah blah blah, thats all I ever here hearfrom SOE...






Update your sound drivers . . .





Is that kinda like "Get a new Video Card to help clear your visibility".




rofl I remember that CSR one... oh man that was great.




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chaosSgt
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:24 am
#37






Zarqon wrote:




cahn-a-licious wrote:



Zarqon wrote:



twighead wrote:
a start yes. but exactly which speed problem is he acknowledging? the bug where you have to remove and replace pearls? the cool down timer bug? or the one everyone want's fixed, which is the saber actually atacking at your properly moded speed?



Actually, I did some tests less than a week ago, and modded saber speed seems to work just fine.



then your testing was wrong, actually. that or you are the only jedi in swg with accurate speed. i am guessing the first is true.



You can read about the tests yourself. I've posted themhere . The conclusion was that my swing time was around 3 seconds with17 in LS speed and around 2.1 seconds with 87 in LS speed, using the same special attacks in both cases. This tells me modded speed works. Please provide some of your own tests if you say something else.

Message Edited by Zarqon on 09-18-2005 02:35 PM




I suggest you read this other post http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1125248&view=by_date_ascending&page=1


We can agree that our saber information is bogus and master sabers 132 LS speed (incl FS general spd), is useless given that fact:


Normal Saber is Gen4 double blade 3.2 no pearl mods
Attack SpeedL 2.33
Your modified Speed 1.37
Damage 583-679
Elemental Type Heat
Elemental Damage: (SRD)203
Acc bonus - 0
EBDPS 358.18/sec
Your modified DPS 608.56


just testing [(583+679)/2 +203(heat)]/2.33 is yes you guessed it 358 (allowing hidden decimals looks accurate)

So what the *&^& does modified DPS mean [(583+679)/2 +203(heat)]/1.37 = 608 ????


Face it there is something bogus; And note for not having master sabers you have a pretty good saber base stat all speed based pearls I suppose &/or speed crafted. Unlike a master would normally be looking for damage. Your own tests show you dont get either your base or given fuzzy math even your modded speed. Noteintroducing different sabers also introduced a difference between general melee speed and LStype specific speed. Also you confirm by attaining near basse speed that master and 2 other trees have nospeed mod. Broken


Average speeds:


2-H DB


Base speed:2.28 2.28


Modded sp. 1.49 1.92


3 cycled att. 2.13 3


2 cycled att. 2.6 3


We can be sure to agree modified DPS is an error for you or MLS since we both agree that we will never hit at modified speed.


Doing lvl 50 factionmissions, I turned on fr3 to limit damage and killed the flag while using the in-game time stamp.
Before testing from my home city I changed pearls and crystals out. I macroed the hits till the combat showed alternating each type. The base saber hit does'nt have the bug so you can attain a smidgen more over base by alternating saber hit with an advanced attack.
1) Spamming saber hit alone calcualted to base attack speed with no pearls speed mod, thats 3.2 hits/ second
2) Alternating Head hit body hit the attack speed was the pearl modified base Attack speed of 2.3 hits/ second

Zita
Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:48 am
#38

so they are aware of it and they do not have an eta roflamo those a*s****s should fix all bugs instead of adding ToOW, yeah they need money but im sure they get more money if those existing bugs were fixed and all players can enjoy this game.but its easier adding new stuff instead of fixing AHHH DAMN SOE FTW ROFLMAO
Slaphead316
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:08 pm
#39


How about reducing the timer on force heal and remove the gamebreaking mind cost for healing and infusion. fix pearls or give us the ability to craft lightsabers as good as pre cu jedi


until then the profession will be as good as master brawler lol


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