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Sena1 wrote:

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PodgerTheGreat wrote:

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Sena1 wrote:

its not an exploit.. and if they were smart and used /open it wouldnt spawn sbds everytime they loot.

So cloaking on the corvette for powerplants is an exploit, cloaking to get past enemies is an exploit. Then what in the hell is having a force cloak skill?

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the corvette is a different situation entirely... the vette is instanced... there ain't people from other groups up there, or have I missed the implementation of an instanced DWB?

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shows how much u know, ever notice overspawn on the corvette? yeah thats because of cloakers. ever seen a person on ur corvette run who wasnt in ur group? yeah i have to.

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not really considering you need an entire group to do it unless you're cloaked?

Just FYI. A cloaker was doing this to us the other night again and we grabbed a CSR. He witnessed the whole thing. The CSR also witness a cloaker drawing agro and clearing a path for his friends to get to the bottom of the DWB with very little fighting (They only needed to fight the guys to get the passkeys.

Expect a nerf in the way cloak works soon thanks to these griefers/exploiters...

yep u need a group and its not an exploite, besides couple of days ago i got patch 23 downloaded (again without noice or any posted notes) and noticed my force cost dramadicly increased when i was cloaked. yes im master powers, and no i wasnt overt. there was nothing hostial around me at all. i had a freind do the same thing to test that it wasnt just me and he lost more then double of what it normaly takes. so it looks like it has been nerfed. if this info is already known then oops my bad, but if anyone else has noticed the same plz let us know.

thx soe

Message Edited by VilKaleThaos on 08-22-2005 07:08 PM

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PodgerTheGreat wrote:

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silentjunior wrote:

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PodgerTheGreat wrote:

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silentjunior wrote:
its not an exploit...just a easy way to get some money

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something you're familiar with? well, i hope you're master powers so that when cloak is moved to the master box you won't have need to complain about it

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i dont have cloak and i dont need it

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i see... so if you were in the DWB, someone was running through cloaked and stealing the loot you need while aggroing mobs on you... you'd be okay with that?

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id be perfectly fine with it...id give the SBD something to deal with...

It annoys the hell out of me, but why not just make the DWB instanced and/or make it if your opening a cabinat thing that they have to uncloak for just say like 5-10 seconds. Tons of time to get a SBD or two on them.

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laz_souto wrote:

Ok First off I am Powers 0400, So i use cloak quite regularly and am not against it in Priniciple

For Cloak to be fair to non-jedi a few things need to happen: (1) It needs to break upon any action that has interaction with another object, character or player. So if I heal myself, or buff myself it should not break, but the second i heal someone else, loot something, or converse with a NPC it should break. (2) It needs to be made so that it aggros nothing, it should be as though you do not exist. (3) The force cost should be made equivlent or larger than aviod incap, because it is not only more usefull but more deserving of the nerf bat, if it was made to cost what aviod incap does, or even more so that a jedi with channel and everything else, constantly healing his force could not hold it up for more than a minute or 1 minute 30 seconds, that way Bounty Hunters dont SCREAM CHEAT!!! CHEAT!!! everytime we use it.

I REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD DAYS OF PERMA-DEATH!!! DO YOU???

FOR ALL THE JEDI WHO SAY WE ARE ALWAYS NERFED: WE ARE STILL MORE AWESOME 1v1 THAN ANY OTHER PROFF, SO GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!

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You notice he or she mentions nothing about moving it to the Master Box, but that would diectly effect his or her template choices. So we offer nerfs that really don't mean much to him or her since it is a dabble skill for how he or she uses it, not how generally used by those who mastered the Powers discipline. 1 & 2 maybe, 3 with everything else Powers is currently no way. Yes I am biased towards Powers, it was my first mastery, MP MLS heal 4004 prior to the CU and everything with powers after to what I am now(it will change with my final respec when FRS gets here or I go absolutely bonkers with the stupid message flashing Q5min). With Astomechs clearly indicating there are less weilder novices than any other Discipline the issue is not as great as those who hate cloak make it out to be. Go after the tards abusing the skill by getting them on EULA violations which have nothing to do with the skill and everything due to the maturity of the player using the skill.

I don't think instancing it will fix the issue.

I don't thinkany one skill should allow a player to continually loot ANYTHINGwithout risk. And thats what cloakers are doing. Also the DWB is supposed to be one of the hardest areas in the game. Should anyone be able to complete content like this by fighting just 15 NPCs? Again, this is what cloakers are doing.

I'd say the number on each server are small. Maybe 10 or so cloakers doing this. But the greifing they cause is against the EULA.Allowing them to endlessly loot high end loot drops without risk is justbad for the in game economy.

When you see cloakers doing this, particularly drawing agro towards you while they are cloaked, get your whole group in CSR chat in LaunchPad. If you hound them enough they will get an in game CSR for you. The only way to stop this is to get a CSR to witness it.

Also use the /who command. This will tell you who is in the area including cloaked Jedi.

cloak nerfing is th eonly way to fix this as of now....rather hard if they instace it 8man DWB group would be rather hard IMO but they could do what WoW does the higher lvl NPC the better chance it can uncloak them and if this is done of course they can still run by players(there the same lvl as players who would cloak in DWB) but so if they have to run by a lvl 200 SBD they uncloak.

problem solved