Jedi Archive
Thread: To All Jedi
IdrisTycho wrote:I will agree that the current system for Jedi PVP is flawed, but this player did nothing wrong. He saw a tefed person of the opposite faction and killed them. Maybe he wanted to see what it was like to fight a Jedi, and maybe he felt that a Rebel Jedi was scum and deserved a deathblow. I am not going to criticize him for that. If the Jedi was actually working towards being an Dark Jedi, it's sort of a shame, but that doesn't change the fact that he was allowed to attack and kill him.The game mechanics are set up to allow and even encourge players to kill jedi. It was part of a system to keep the number of high level Jedi down. This system having lots of flaws makes this feel like griefing to a Jedi, but it's just part of the system the DEVs set in place for us. To go completely ape-sh*t on a player for doing something that is both within rules, not exploiting, and part of the DEV's design, is just immature.You knew what you were getting into when you opened the Jedi slot. You knew you were going to have to fight players eventually. To gripe and moan about a single, fair death from one player is childish. Just suck it up and move on. Be more careful next time, find ways to avoid future fights. Learn tricks for rapid escape. Play smart. And when you lose anyway, just accept it. Hell it's changing anyway, why freak out about it?
He may have done something wrong. You don't know whether he was the one who started the verbal abuse, you don't know if he was taunting the Jedi or using exploits to kill him, you don't know really anything about this fight. The entire account of the story takes 2 sentences, nothing in life is that simple. There is nothing here that states that the Jedi was of the opposing faction, only that he was TEFed. A Jedi TEF allows anyone to attack them whether they are rebel, imperial, or neutral. There are 2 facts here that make me assume there is more to the story than what is being told.
1) It is a second hand account of the situation from a friend of the person who supposedly did nothing wrong and was supposedly harassed by the Jedi in question.
2) No one verbally abuses someone just because they died in a PvP fight. Especially when they stand and fight instead of run away. The original poster said that the two players "dueled" which implies that they both accepted the fight. Usually duels are to incap, not to the death. Chances are they dueled and the Jedi was under the impression (whether mistaken assumption or flat out lie on the part of the poster's friend) that there would be no deathblow. Jedi can outrun anyone because they have both burst run and force run. If the Jedi wanted to get away, he could have.
Kaijac wrote:Dear Jedi's of the communityI would like to remind you all of the risks you take in being a Jedi, and the fact that you are open to attack when you have TEF. Being a Jedi is risky business, so please be aware of the consequences.Why do I remind you all of what is so pretty obvious?Well, I recently heard a story from a good friend of mine, who had an encounter with a Jedi. The Jedi had TEF so my friend decided to take him on, they dueled and my friend deathblowed the Jedi.The Jedi then began to verbally abuse my friend.....Now I'm not saying that ALL jedi's are whinning gits,But, if you're a Jedi, and you get attacked and end up being DB'ed, please, don't bother /tell your attacker and begin a barage of insults at him.just ACCEPT IT and get on with playing the game
Sounds like you're the one crying here. And you're not even one of the players.
Get over it.
Works both ways. I had a friend who was confronted and constantly kept getting tells during the fight.Use /addignore if it bothers you so much.
Kaijac wrote:
Dear Jedi's of the community
I would like to remind you all of the risks you take in being a Jedi, and the fact that you are open to attack when you have TEF. Being a Jedi is risky business, so please be aware of the consequences.
Why do I remind you all of what is so pretty obvious?
Well, I recently heard a story from a good friend of mine, who had an encounter with a Jedi. The Jedi had TEF so my friend decided to take him on, they dueled and my friend deathblowed the Jedi.
The Jedi then began to verbally abuse my friend.....
Now I'm not saying that ALL jedi's are whinning gits,
But, if you're a Jedi, and you get attacked and end up being DB'ed, please, don't bother /tell your attacker and begin a barage of insults at him.
just ACCEPT IT and get on with playing the game
Kaijac wrote:Dear Jedi's of the communityI would like to remind you all of the risks you take in being a Jedi, and the fact that you are open to attack when you have TEF. Being a Jedi is risky business, so please be aware of the consequences.Why do I remind you all of what is so pretty obvious?Well, I recently heard a story from a good friend of mine, who had an encounter with a Jedi. The Jedi had TEF so my friend decided to take him on, they dueled and my friend deathblowed the Jedi.The Jedi then began to verbally abuse my friend.....Now I'm not saying that ALL jedi's are whinning gits,But, if you're a Jedi, and you get attacked and end up being DB'ed, please, don't bother /tell your attacker and begin a barage of insults at him.just ACCEPT IT and get on with playing the game
Hrmm. I've read your post and carefully considered what you've said and all the potential ramifications that I can see.
What really stands out most though, is that I just don't care.
SimianHunter wrote:
He may have done something wrong. You don't know whether he was the one who started the verbal abuse, you don't know if he was taunting the Jedi or using exploits to kill him, you don't know really anything about this fight. The entire account of the story takes 2 sentences, nothing in life is that simple. There is nothing here that states that the Jedi was of the opposing faction, only that he was TEFed. A Jedi TEF allows anyone to attack them whether they are rebel, imperial, or neutral. There are 2 facts here that make me assume there is more to the story than what is being told.
1) It is a second hand account of the situation from a friend of the person who supposedly did nothing wrong and was supposedly harassed by the Jedi in question.
2) No one verbally abuses someone just because they died in a PvP fight. Especially when they stand and fight instead of run away. The original poster said that the two players "dueled" which implies that they both accepted the fight. Usually duels are to incap, not to the death. Chances are they dueled and the Jedi was under the impression (whether mistaken assumption or flat out lie on the part of the poster's friend) that there would be no deathblow. Jedi can outrun anyone because they have both burst run and force run. If the Jedi wanted to get away, he could have.
The only real point you made is the one about dueling. If it was a regular player duel and he DB'd that is complete idiot I will grant you that. The rest of your points are irrelevant. Sure we only see one side of the argument, but it doesn't mean the argument isn't a valid one. He is simply stating if you get attacked and you lose, dont freak out on your killer.
There is nothing here that states that the Jedi was of the opposing faction, only that he was TEFed. A Jedi TEF allows anyone to attack them whether they are rebel, imperial, or neutral.
This is just plain incorrect. The only players who can attack a TEFed Jedi is a player of the opposite faction. Why would you even make a statement like this without verifying it yourself? That all by itself causes your post to lose a great deal of credibility in my eyes.
No one verbally abuses someone just because they died in a PvP fight. Especially when they stand and fight instead of run away.
LOL! Do you even play the same game as me? We are talking about SWG here right? I get people complaining about PVP ALL the time. In fact anytime there is a PVP contest of any sort at all, some one is being a jacka$$.
I could understand the jedi being pissed,
Imagine the situation if you would as a normal toon.
To get to the next skill box you need 1.8 million xp, after5 (being cloned 6 times means a skill lose) or so deaths you lose a skill box.
You are currently are on 5 deaths and 1.75 million xp which has taken 4, 5 or 6 weeks to get ( as each kill only gives 500 ish xp as a jedi). You get death blowed and you lose the pervious skill box, you also lose (a major proportion of you xp) plus the extra xp lost for having to re learn the skill you lost. So all you effort has been done for nothing.
I am not complaining. It is how the game is, it is part of the game design, fine. But anyone who puts in that sort of time and effort for anything, be it work, sport or swg would get pissed if it was for nothing. I would, should he take it out on the other player, not really but you can understand the jedi's perspective. How do you normally feel when you clean the car for a 2 to 3 hrs and then birds **edit** on it or it starts to rain, most people get pissed because there time and effort has been wasted, same situation.
You can't do anything about it but it is infuriating.
IdrisTycho wrote:
There is nothing here that states that the Jedi was of the opposing faction, only that he was TEFed. A Jedi TEF allows anyone to attack them whether they are rebel, imperial, or neutral.This is just plain incorrect. The only players who can attack a TEFed Jedi is a player of the opposite faction. Why would you even make a statement like this without verifying it yourself? That all by itself causes your post to lose a great deal of credibility in my eyes.
No one verbally abuses someone just because they died in a PvP fight. Especially when they stand and fight instead of run away.
LOL! Do you even play the same game as me? We are talking about SWG here right? I get people complaining about PVP ALL the time. In fact anytime there is a PVP contest of any sort at all, some one is being a jacka$$.
Um, I think you are smoking crack. My rebel character had no problem attacking a rebel Jedi last night. The fact that it's a second hand account by a friend of one of the people involved doesn't invalidate his statement "don't verbally abuse people" but it does call into question the facts of his 2 sentence story. He's not going to say "yeah my friend sent the guy a tell saying he sucked and that he'd had a harder time killing kreetles, but that's no excuse" he's going to that he did nothing wrong and that it was all unwarranted. Some people talk **edit** and deserve to be verbally abused for it.
IT GOES BOTH WAYS BABY. Too many times my 4144-initiate ass has raped and pillaged some friggin' dummy who thinks he can take a jedi due to all the hype. I proceed to jam my saber in placed it doesn't belong....and they **edit** and complain that if I wasn't buffed they (who are buffed at the time) could have taken me. Oh that mindblast was a lucky trick....or just because you have full HAM and I'm dead doesn't mean it wasn't a close fight.
When I fight someone as a jedi...win or lose....i /tell Good Fight.
SimianHunter wrote:
Um, I think you are smoking crack. My rebel character had no problem attacking a rebel Jedi last night.
