Jedi Archive
Thread: IT s Official, jedi suck
like i said before, pre cu jedi, that i grinded to full template pre cu, vs a post cu respec grinder, is like a hore talking to a virgin. the virgins just dont get it. you cant miss what you never had.
i think what gets us the most, is i grinded the pre cu jedi. almost 1 year.
i didnt get the 2 week respec grind. but thats what jedi are now.
freak88 wrote:
and pday, i have a mswords/mpike/doc4000, can tank anything you can.
also a tkm/mswords/doc4000 can do the same thing.
just pick any 2 melees and add doc4000. its easiers with pike tho. only takes 1 day.
what you have that i dont have is wasted skillpoints, i could outtank template 1 all day since it does not have imp cob, you have wasted sp in master pike, its not needed to have more than 0-0-4-0 pike if any, pick up imp cob, powerboost and the acc tree, oh and i will outtank and outdamage both templates due to constant access to doctor buffs.
/agree,
BUT when you have a pike 25 speed shirt, and a 25 general melee speed jedi nerfed mabari belt, and a 700 ish kaminoan great staff, you go mpike msword doc 400.
As a "jedi wanna-be" (grinding now) Master Bounty Hunter I can most assuredly tell you that you are wrong for thinking Jedi's suck. I have had my arse handed to me more times than I can count. The only time that I go Jedi hunting now is when I'm bored or just wish to die. Who cares if a swordsman can whip a jedi? They can't hunt you. I have fought many jedi and won; however I also had my arse handed to me by a swordsman/TKM. Who freaking cares? You think I got upset when they nerfed the crap outta TKM? (which I was) Darn straight! You know what I did? I got over it, changed profession, and became a Bounty Hunter.
So here's the deal: Jedi hide - BH hunt. Jedi should not be running all over the starports "flashing" their sticks ya know? I go to the terminals HOPING to find one of their names. Everytime I go on a hunt for a REAL person; my heart starts beating with anticipation. I have never dropped a jedi mission. Even if I check them out and know for certainty they are gonna wax me. It's very exciting. If nothing else just to see if I can do it. It always seems that jedi never break a sweat. I used to complain that I couldn't come close to outdamaging a jedi. I have had to become very cunnning and use every exploit I can. If it means waiting in the bushes until the force runs low then so be it. I've yet to meet a BH that can go straight up toe-to-toe with a serious Jedi.
Cmdr_Magic wrote:
First off. Somebody somewhere has to be the strongest. Is the person you listed above a very tough fight? Yes. WouldI loose with my current status? Yes. Does that mean they can't be beaten? NO!!!! There are jedi that have spent time to become "well equipped" as well. I have seen jedi that have done this and have perfect sabers and capped with tapes beat them. With the snares now this temp can be kited easily. this template may counter jedi well but that doesn't mean it is the best template. MBH MRM eat these guys alive now.Balanced Jedi does not mean you can beat anyone and everyone.
Pday wrote:
Cmdr_Magic wrote:
freak88 wrote:
why grind jedi, when you can have your arse handed to you by a mswordsman Not always true. just watched a Jedi beat one last night. Both were experienced pvpers. jedi now lack in every category,
heals= 1 on a timer sux
damage = lowest in game sux
armor =lowest in game, easily broken sux
Then why can I still win 75% of my duels with non-jedi? The profession you talk about should never win a duel with an experienced pvper. Also I should die to every single bh that comes after me.....I have not died once, and I am a post-cu jedi with post-cu pearls and I do not have cloak and I am not a runner. If our armor is so bad why can a MDEF solo almost anything? Please learn about how jedi specials effect damage as opposed to other specials before you say your damage is the lowest.
we are outdamaged , out heales, and out armored by every combat class. the revamp was suppose to bring a frs so that our skills could be way improved over all that was stolen from us, such as 85 saberblock. This statement alone reveals your true feelings. You want Jedi to be invincible. You feel that Jedi should never loose. Jedi should be powerful, but not invincible. If 85% block was put back in without group TEF than Jedi would be ridiculously powerful. And if they did put 85% block back and Group TEF back to balance it, then everyone would start whining again to remove the Group TEF again just like before......It never ends.
jedi are now a joke of a profession, i wouldnt even call them medics with flashlights, that would be giving them way to much credit.
meanwhile bh dev players come in on thr weekends to make bh/bh missionds funner with better loot drops.
i guess once you make jedi, its /endgame time to move on to another non-soe ggame, because all jedi have been given is nerfs, nerfs, more nerfs, and a handful of empty promises. Do you honestly think we are the only profession that deals with that? There are plenty of others. I will not bother listing professions here. If you don't know what I am talking about take a few minutes and look at some of the other professions' forums. We are not the only profession in this game.
meanwhile devs like blistex who has all this free time, can come in on weekends to make bh missions better, funner, with uber loot. New mobs from Mustafar drop loot equal to that of MBH missions. I am not talking for someone else. I looted them myself. It was a random mob, not something I camped.
jedi= a bored player with nothing to do, unless you like getting your arse kicked by other combat professions. Only if you don't know your template. If you actually learn how to use the strenghts in your template you should Never get creamed. Beaten maybe. Everyone looses sometimes, but never creamed.
jedi for the lose
Do we have bugs? Yes. Would I like to see things improved for Jedi? Yes. Are we the weakest profession? Not by a long shot.
The reason you can beat non jedi pvp'ers most of the time is that a good, well equipped non jedi is hard to find, id like to see you fight some of the actually good non jedi pvpers. along the lines of a m.swordsman with 75% armor break sliced armor, with a med droid out, capped on tapes with a 1200+ max 700+ min powerhammer and 300+ accuracy.
m.bh/m.rifleman is a freaking joke, i can stand there and have 2 of them shooting at me and it will still take them about 15 minutes to kill me not to mention if i step behind something they dont have los and have to come and get me.
current status of SWG :
STACKERS > everyone else
a perfect saber and capped on tapes is no match for hitting master defenders for 750 every second.
LordZahn wrote:
Jedi have gone down hill since about pub 7.
More like pub 10.. The Jedi Revamp was not too bad - would be nice if we could have all 4 diciplins though.