Jedi Archive
Thread: Exploits inside, SOE condone harrasment, No bans forthcoming....... Devs, take note!
dowdell3000 wrote:
Duno how long you have played this game, but heres a lesson, SoE have, and will do, whaever they see fit. Whether you like it or not, they arent gona re-design the system just for you.
MsNiL wrote:
It's never too late to attempt to teach SoE some history.
Mr_Desert wrote:
But it IS the system. I dont think a lot of things are right here but at the end of the day we all know the rules, the things we have to be careful of, the things that will reduce most to tears. If you IGNORE these things then it will be a very painful experience tbh
I think BH's should focus on cleaning up Theed Starport instead of chasing padawans in the outer rim.
That should be the system.
MsNiL is one of the older members of the community. At least I remember seeing posts from MsNiL for a long time. Personally I'm from the 3rd day of live (borked log in servers meant that I couldn't get my registration finished any earlier-harbinger of the future?) and I see things very much like BOTH of you. MsNiL doesn't really think that there's much chance of teaching SoE to listen to it's customers, but there IS always an optimistic side. LOL
dowdell3000 wrote:
MsNiL wrote:
dowdell3000 wrote:
Enlighten me on these changes they made for you...
MsNiL wrote:
They already did, several times.
dowdell3000 wrote:
Duno how long you have played this game, but heres a lesson, SoE have, and will do, whaever they see fit. Whether you like it or not, they arent gona re-design the system just for you.
Launchpad seems to have left you out on every publish/hotfix...
Removed the xp loss on pve death.
Disabled the frs.
Fixed forcearmor.
Fixed visibility in groups.
Removed the /8 xp system.
And you did all the for us?
Why arent you the jedi Coro?!
Wow! People on this forum are WAY too literal. This is more of an abstract statement. The original statement that MsNiL made was about it not being too late for SoE to change the game (to make it's customers happy). I don't really think that it was a direct comment for the poster who said that the changes were for MsNiL specifically.
Message Edited by teddypinkbod on 10-03-2005 05:36 PM
Darka-ce wrote:
TrsatiQuelray wrote:
Exploit: BH hanging around you while you grind, then their friend finds you on terminals and the 'sqaud' hits you for 6.
SOE: Working as intended, so they condone this harrasment
Bans?: Anyone ever seen an account banned for this?
Hmmm.... Maybe the devs should really look into this whole visibility system?
Also:
1. Lambda's dropping on your lair while grinding - instant vis.
2. Kunga spawns dropping as you attack lair - SOEmake sure you getVisibility? Happened 6 times in 2 hours to me so no co-incidence.
SOE - Your mechanics force visibility, hence you force all Jedi to get visibility however careful they are. You can't stop fly-by's!!!!!! So time to rethink this whole hash-of-a-system you created and as I already posted and has been made clear to you, your own CSR's think the Jedi being forced into PvP against their wishes is harrasment.
Flame away all those with +700 sabres, I expect that from you.
Okay first, I don't have a 700+ saber, alas mine is a lowly 617. Second, It is called Bounty HUNTER. He is not griefing provided he's not vis camping you (staying closer than 32m). Third NPCs spawns are random. Forth, You posted what, 4?? 5?? Carebear PvE Jedi threads now? Did you not understand what Jedi was when you were throwin' your 'nades during the village grind? Fifth and finally, since you are so unhappy being Jedi, I propse this: Play your alt. My friend, you are the same kind of person who, when they don't like a TV show, tries to get it canceled vs. doing the obvious, changing the channel. Stop trying to change a profession that affects thousands simply because YOU don't like it. Just change the channel.
Literal? Im just quoting the guys statement.
Iawalein wrote:
dowdell3000 wrote:
MsNiL wrote:
dowdell3000 wrote:
Enlighten me on these changes they made for you...
MsNiL wrote:
They already did, several times.
dowdell3000 wrote:
Duno how long you have played this game, but heres a lesson, SoE have, and will do, whaever they see fit. Whether you like it or not, they arent gona re-design the system just for you.
Launchpad seems to have left you out on every publish/hotfix...
Removed the xp loss on pve death.
Disabled the frs.
Fixed forcearmor.
Fixed visibility in groups.
Removed the /8 xp system.
And you did all the for us?
Why arent you the jedi Coro?!
Wow! People on this forum are WAY too literal. This is more of an abstract statement. The original statement that MsNiL made was about it not being too late for SoE to change the game (to make it's customers happy). I don't really think that it was a direct comment for the poster who said that the changes were for MsNiL specifically.
MsNiL wrote:
It's never too late to attempt to teach SoE some history.
Mr_Desert wrote:
But it IS the system. I dont think a lot of things are right here but at the end of the day we all know the rules, the things we have to be careful of, the things that will reduce most to tears. If you IGNORE these things then it will be a very painful experience tbh
I think BH's should focus on cleaning up Theed Starport instead of chasing padawans in the outer rim.
That should be the system.
QFE. If you're gonna whack somebody, whack the idiot prancing around theed starport. He's predictable. At least jedi on dantooine aren't making asses out of themselves for no apparent reason.
MsNiL wrote:
dowdell3000 wrote:
Enlighten me on these changes they made for you...
MsNiL wrote:
They already did, several times.
dowdell3000 wrote:
Duno how long you have played this game, but heres a lesson, SoE have, and will do, whaever they see fit. Whether you like it or not, they arent gona re-design the system just for you.
Launchpad seems to have left you out on every publish/hotfix...
Removed the xp loss on pve death. BAD IDEA
Disabled the frs. BAD IDEA
Fixed forcearmor. GOOD IDEA
Fixed visibility in groups. BAD IDEA
Removed the /8 xp system. GOOD IDEA
So the count is now 3-2, in favor of bad ideas.
PvE death XP loss- should have never been taken out, maybe for a month or so post-cu to allow players to adapt to the new system. Then re-instate it.
Remove FRS - Yes the old FRS was flawed. But atleast it provided us with something to pass the time. Should have been left active until the new FRS was atleast in testing.
Force Armor fix - was needed, and good idea.
Group Vis Fix - Bad Idea. I mean the whole point of the CU was to make combat (and leveling IMO) more interactive and challenging. Yet they do this and allow Jedi, who they want to remain hidden and rare, an easy grind.
1/8 XP system - I do believe that was the worst Idea I've ever saw from a Dev Team. Not using it was their best idea yet.
I just want to add a few points for the flamers:
1. I am a Pre-CU jedi
2. I knew Jedi was PvP and perma-overt before we got hit with the nerf-bat of the CU. Pre-CU I had a chance against a kitted out BH and back then I was only 0044 LS! Now I can't even hope to beat one. Not once. And all because we got nerfed so bad. And please dont give me that rubbish about choose your template on this matter or that I don't like PvP. I try to avoid PvP yes, but as I stated, game mechanics are designed to give it you.
3. No white dots, probots, or anything else appeared the 5 times in a few hours I had a Lambda drop on me.
Games changed, system needs to.
WhitelighterofSH wrote:
So the count is now 3-2, in favor of bad ideas.
PvE death XP loss- should have never been taken out, maybe for a month or so post-cu to allow players to adapt to the new system. Then re-instate it.
No point in pve death.
Remove FRS - Yes the old FRS was flawed. But atleast it provided us with something to pass the time. Should have been left active until the new FRS was atleast in testing.
The FRS wasnt working as intended. With proper cheating an Enhancer or Wielder had god mode coming for them. It also pushed Jedi into the GCW where they where absolutely not wanted. Furthermore the cu broke Enhancer, Wielder and Healer to work in the FRS. It also neglected real light side Jedi, and there was alot of ego going on.
Group Vis Fix - Bad Idea. I mean the whole point of the CU was to make combat (and leveling IMO) more interactive and challenging. Yet they do this and allow Jedi, who they want to remain hidden and rare, an easy grind.
Pre-cu: Could grind without visibility
Post-cu: After the group vis was removed you could grind without visibility
No Jedi up to this date had a harder grind than Jedi right after CU up to the point where this was fixed. Only cheats, respecs and double xp could allow you to go forward. The Group-Vis-Fix fixed the grind that they broke in the CU.
1/8 XP system - I do believe that was the worst Idea I've ever saw from a Dev Team. Not using it was their best idea yet.
Probably.
BeefStoo wrote:
QFE. If you're gonna whack somebody, whack the idiot prancing around theed starport. He's predictable. At least jedi on dantooine aren't making asses out of themselves for no apparent reason.