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Thread: How fun is.........My *Krayt* T-21 VS my *Lightsaber*

Wini
Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:05 pm
#27






Theycallmewezbo wrote:

tell me which one does better in pvp kkthx





T21, with SEA's.





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Cutlass-Shadowfire
Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:11 pm
#28

My Saber is 545 DPS 3d gen (pre CU as the changes were going on) , for what ever reason I cannot make a better saber at all.


My BH Pistol can be Pup's to 972 DPS with 82 Sac at 1.7 sp or PUP'd to 652 at .072 sp with 53 sac.


Needless to say if I want to do Damage I have to do it on my BH my Saber is a modified Flashlight even with maxed 2h and DB saber Accy and Speed CA's (and I miss every other hit on it too reducing my Saber to more or less a Colored wepon)


Theycallmewezbo
Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:22 pm
#29






Wini wrote:





Theycallmewezbo wrote:

tell me which one does better in pvp kkthx





T21, with SEA's.






Most likely the t21 would kill in pve fast. but in pvp it sucks because of low accuracy. Oh and whoever posted their ranged defense then it reflects it accuratlyif you are holding a ranged weapon. Some people still think melee and ranged defense mean the defense vs a melee weapon, and defense vs a ranged weapon. But to tell you the truth it actually means The defense while holding a melee weapon and the defense while holding a ranged weapon. Unless you can make the rifle accy over 700 then you arent going to hit at the max.



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Pday
Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:21 pm
#30






Theycallmewezbo wrote:





Wini wrote:





Theycallmewezbo wrote:

tell me which one does better in pvp kkthx





T21, with SEA's.






Most likely the t21 would kill in pve fast. but in pvp it sucks because of low accuracy. Oh and whoever posted their ranged defense then it reflects it accuratlyif you are holding a ranged weapon. Some people still think melee and ranged defense mean the defense vs a melee weapon, and defense vs a ranged weapon. But to tell you the truth it actually means The defense while holding a melee weapon and the defense while holding a ranged weapon. Unless you can make the rifle accy over 700 then you arent going to hit at the max.





i know a guy with over 350 accuracy before foods, then add about 200 from foods and 150 from a squad leader.



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EvilAztec
Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:16 pm
#31

How about an ADK'dFeatherweight FWG5 my alt carries:


w/ pup from top


Acc 15


Speed -.32


Damage +126


Attack Speed 1.41


Damage 503-1084


Acc Bonus 3


Wound 13.8


DPS junk anyway


SAC 90


This beats the speed, min and max damage, and SACon my LS plus it's kinetic. It doesn't cost force to use, and if you can't root or snare me I'll never have an armorbreak applied to my 8041 energy resist ADK'd Tantel.


Pups are cheap and have 500 uses... Balance this is not.





MsNiL wrote:

You are talking about a military weight masterlicensed T-21. There's not much more you can do with it than shooting stuff. It's damagereduced by PSG's and it doesnt armorbreak. Master Rifleman is kinda limited that way.










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THEsmuggla
Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:39 pm
#32






EvilAztec wrote:

How about an ADK'dFeatherweight FWG5 my alt carries:


w/ pup from top


Acc 15


Speed -.32


Damage +126


Attack Speed 1.41


Damage 503-1084


Acc Bonus 3


Wound 13.8


DPS junk anyway


SAC 90


This beats the speed, min and max damage, and SACon my LS plus it's kinetic. It doesn't cost force to use, and if you can't root or snare me I'll never have an armorbreak applied to my 8041 energy resist ADK'd Tantel.


Pups are cheap and have 500 uses... Balance this is not.





MsNiL wrote:

You are talking about a military weight masterlicensed T-21. There's not much more you can do with it than shooting stuff. It's damagereduced by PSG's and it doesnt armorbreak. Master Rifleman is kinda limited that way.












SUPER QUOTE!

Nathanielstarr
Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:06 pm
#33






THEsmuggla wrote:





Physion wrote:

We have enough skills available to mitigate the dmg. If you don't know how to utilize them, then that's your problem.


Zer-Oth, Dark Jedi Knight.






Well man, if you want to see EVERYBODY dabbling or using the same template....you must not understand what is called FREEDOM.



My favourite skills are Powers and lightsaber. So why on earth should i get less choice making me a cannon glass, since if i take defense ill have not heal----but if i take heals i will not have defenses.










What about those that don't want to be Jedi at all? We shouldn't have to be jedi to compete so now we're meeting in the middle for the good of the game and face it...a jedi's life isn't that hard anymore.



Jedi are still stronger that's why half of everyone has one. If you don't utilize yours to the best of your ability then that's on you.


Pday
Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:08 pm
#34






Nathanielstarr wrote:





THEsmuggla wrote:





Physion wrote:

We have enough skills available to mitigate the dmg. If you don't know how to utilize them, then that's your problem.


Zer-Oth, Dark Jedi Knight.






Well man, if you want to see EVERYBODY dabbling or using the same template....you must not understand what is called FREEDOM.



My favourite skills are Powers and lightsaber. So why on earth should i get less choice making me a cannon glass, since if i take defense ill have not heal----but if i take heals i will not have defenses.










What about those that don't want to be Jedi at all? We shouldn't have to be jedi to compete so now we're meeting in the middle for the good of the game and face it...a jedi's life isn't that hard anymore.



Jedi are still stronger that's why half of everyone has one. If you don't utilize yours to the best of your ability then that's on you.






il happily **edit** any jedi on any server in 20 minutes on my alt. its not a fault of jedi that 99% of non jedi suck and have no clue how to pvp.




Iadao

4-4-4-4 Sick inhumane S.O.B

GCW forum motto : Lets all go beat some more DEAD HORSES

yeah it's only a game, but the time and money I invested in it are certainly F'ing REAL.

Nathanielstarr
Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:58 pm
#35






Pday wrote:





Nathanielstarr wrote:





THEsmuggla wrote:





Physion wrote:

We have enough skills available to mitigate the dmg. If you don't know how to utilize them, then that's your problem.


Zer-Oth, Dark Jedi Knight.






Well man, if you want to see EVERYBODY dabbling or using the same template....you must not understand what is called FREEDOM.



My favourite skills are Powers and lightsaber. So why on earth should i get less choice making me a cannon glass, since if i take defense ill have not heal----but if i take heals i will not have defenses.










What about those that don't want to be Jedi at all? We shouldn't have to be jedi to compete so now we're meeting in the middle for the good of the game and face it...a jedi's life isn't that hard anymore.



Jedi are still stronger that's why half of everyone has one. If you don't utilize yours to the best of your ability then that's on you.






il happily **edit** any jedi on any server in 20 minutes on my alt. its not a fault of jedi that 99% of non jedi suck and have no clue how to pvp.






So talking in circles is your answer? And avoiding actually debating my post but responding to it? Where in my post did I say that 99% of everyone cannot beat a Jedi?

Message Edited by Nathanielstarr on 11-02-2005 06:00 PM

Pday
Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:02 pm
#36






Nathanielstarr wrote:






Pday wrote:





Nathanielstarr wrote:





THEsmuggla wrote:





Physion wrote:

We have enough skills available to mitigate the dmg. If you don't know how to utilize them, then that's your problem.


Zer-Oth, Dark Jedi Knight.






Well man, if you want to see EVERYBODY dabbling or using the same template....you must not understand what is called FREEDOM.



My favourite skills are Powers and lightsaber. So why on earth should i get less choice making me a cannon glass, since if i take defense ill have not heal----but if i take heals i will not have defenses.










What about those that don't want to be Jedi at all? We shouldn't have to be jedi to compete so now we're meeting in the middle for the good of the game and face it...a jedi's life isn't that hard anymore.



Jedi are still stronger that's why half of everyone has one. If you don't utilize yours to the best of your ability then that's on you.






il happily **edit** any jedi on any server in 20 minutes on my alt. its not a fault of jedi that 99% of non jedi suck and have no clue how to pvp.






So talking in circles is your answer? And avoiding actually debating my post but responding to it? Where in my post did I say that 99% of everyone cannot beat a Jedi?

Message Edited by Nathanielstarr on 11-02-2005 06:00 PM





if jedi were still stronger, i wouldnt be able to incap the averidge jedi in about 20 seconds. Your post is based on something you think is right.



Iadao

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GCW forum motto : Lets all go beat some more DEAD HORSES

yeah it's only a game, but the time and money I invested in it are certainly F'ing REAL.

lunas
Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:11 am
#37

i'll admityour post-cu sabers can suck compared to pre-cu. The thing that makes even you post-cu sabers good is the min max dmg difference. My adv laser is 450-1186 dmg. i'll admit i consistantly hit in the 800-1k range but i do tend to hit for 300 at all the wrong times hehe. What you guys need to realize is Jedi knights are supposed to be 1.5 times stonger than me and you guys are all paddies. I'll bet you even get saber crafting mods inthe FRS ( if it ever comes )



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Pday
Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:19 am
#38





lunas wrote: i'll admityour post-cu sabers can suck compared to pre-cu. The thing that makes even you post-cu sabers good is the min max dmg difference. My adv laser is 450-1186 dmg. i'll admit i consistantly hit in the 800-1k range but i do tend to hit for 300 at all the wrong times hehe. What you guys need to realize is Jedi knights are supposed to be 1.5 times stonger than me and you guys are all paddies. I'll bet you even get saber crafting mods inthe FRS ( if it ever comes )




actually the quote goesa full template jedi padawan is supposed to be 1.5 as strong as a non jedi character, as said by the old jedi correspondent, there has never been a counter quote to it. My kinetic bowcaster is 700 min, 1337 max, 82 sac. If jedi padawans are supposed to be 1.0 as most non jedi seem to thing, yall need to be powered down to our level. Oh and for the adv laser get damage powerups instead.






SonGouki wrote:







JEDI GENERAL INFO:





  • A full-template Jedi Padawan is supposedly balanced to be 1.5 times as powerful as a regular profession combat template.





Message Edited by SonGouki on 06-22-2005 09:47 PM




This is the quote as it was made by SonGouki and there has never been a counter quote from a developer or a correspondent to counter it. The entire post can be found in the jedi forums called : Jedi in the CU information.

Message Edited by Pday on 11-02-2005 12:25 PM



Iadao

4-4-4-4 Sick inhumane S.O.B

GCW forum motto : Lets all go beat some more DEAD HORSES

yeah it's only a game, but the time and money I invested in it are certainly F'ing REAL.

Jengu-Fet
Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:22 am
#39

It's balanced!! trust SOE!!




























































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