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Thread: Turn it off now!

Court-Jester
Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:05 am
#27






Sissor-BP wrote:





Court-Jester wrote:





Sissor-BP wrote:





Court-Jester wrote:





Dy-nod wrote:

Turn off the xp loss for bh death, or turn off visibility altogether until you fix this bloody mess. The Designers of SWG are griefing people with their new content by allowing all the junk that is going on to continue. I won't rehash, only a completeidiot wouldn't know what these issues are by now.


Let us enjoy the new expansion as much as everyone else...or at the very least don't penalize us for it.


I used to enjoy bh visits, kept the game enjoyable and kept me on my toes. Now it's a joke and you at SOE know it's a joke...turn it off NOW and let me play the content I paid $30 for!



Dy



P.S. On the Loot Cloak and species restrictions...considering that NPC Ithorians have been seen wearing them...Bite me SOE! You won't respond to the 100's of posts and dozens of threads on this issue...yet you wave it in our faces....just plain sick.






Your highlighted segments are why we need my ideas. People like you are ruining our (my) profession. Check link in sig for suggestions.






Wrong Jester, it is people like you that are ruining the Jedi profession by not being flexible.


Do you honestly think that LA will allow a pure PVP FRS to occur again? LA know that the idea of jedi staying hidden is key and will not allow people to advance solely through PVP which can take place in the open. LA will only advocate a system that promotes Jedi in Hiding like we were all originally told we should be in the pop-ups and on screen messages that you so obviously read as you became Jedi.


You knew this so you shall deal with it!
Players cannot be trusted to remain hidden given a powerful profession if the only route of advancement is through PVP. This is Why LA are so pivotal in creation of the new FRS, they are working on a way to provide advancement through both PVP and PVE means. Jedi is a PVP profession, yes but its advancement will no longer be through PVP alone, this muchI guarantee.





Funny you should mention reading. Did you actually read the things in my link? I neither mentioned PvP nor FRS. Try again smart guy.







Considering you have a link saying Slayer of teh Carebear i dont think any reading is necessary to understand what you are looking for.







You should have stopped there. The old, open mouth insert foot, saying comes to mind.




_______________________________________
G h e i s t v C o u r t - J e s t e r v L i l i t h
Death Before Dishonor - Master of 32 professions
Future Jedi Correspondent and Defender of the Jedi Profession

[ ] Has beaten SWG on Ultra Bring the PainMode (Perma Death)
[x] Has beaten SWG on Super Difficult Mode (Saber-tef / Skill Loss)
[x] Has beaten SWG on Chap my Hide Mode (Post-9)
[x] Has beaten SWG on Bring out the Gimp Mode (Post-Curb)
[x]Refuses to play SWG on Carebear Mode (Post-NGE)
Sissor-BP
Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:07 am
#28






Court-Jester wrote:





Sissor-BP wrote:





Court-Jester wrote:





Sissor-BP wrote:





Court-Jester wrote:





Dy-nod wrote:

Turn off the xp loss for bh death, or turn off visibility altogether until you fix this bloody mess. The Designers of SWG are griefing people with their new content by allowing all the junk that is going on to continue. I won't rehash, only a completeidiot wouldn't know what these issues are by now.


Let us enjoy the new expansion as much as everyone else...or at the very least don't penalize us for it.


I used to enjoy bh visits, kept the game enjoyable and kept me on my toes. Now it's a joke and you at SOE know it's a joke...turn it off NOW and let me play the content I paid $30 for!



Dy



P.S. On the Loot Cloak and species restrictions...considering that NPC Ithorians have been seen wearing them...Bite me SOE! You won't respond to the 100's of posts and dozens of threads on this issue...yet you wave it in our faces....just plain sick.






Your highlighted segments are why we need my ideas. People like you are ruining our (my) profession. Check link in sig for suggestions.






Wrong Jester, it is people like you that are ruining the Jedi profession by not being flexible.


Do you honestly think that LA will allow a pure PVP FRS to occur again? LA know that the idea of jedi staying hidden is key and will not allow people to advance solely through PVP which can take place in the open. LA will only advocate a system that promotes Jedi in Hiding like we were all originally told we should be in the pop-ups and on screen messages that you so obviously read as you became Jedi.


You knew this so you shall deal with it!
Players cannot be trusted to remain hidden given a powerful profession if the only route of advancement is through PVP. This is Why LA are so pivotal in creation of the new FRS, they are working on a way to provide advancement through both PVP and PVE means. Jedi is a PVP profession, yes but its advancement will no longer be through PVP alone, this muchI guarantee.





Funny you should mention reading. Did you actually read the things in my link? I neither mentioned PvP nor FRS. Try again smart guy.







Considering you have a link saying Slayer of teh Carebear i dont think any reading is necessary to understand what you are looking for.







You should have stopped there. The old, open mouth insert foot, saying comes to mind.






Really...


Well when you finally understand that the old days are gone and are not coming back you will be eating those words. You will probably run crying to mommy saying 'wahhh they took away my power' where those of us who dont care about the power but enjoy the meaning of jedi will celebrate your loss.





¤ Sissor - Jedi ¤ Dinie - Smuggler ¤
¤ Swilja - Officer ¤ Everilda - Trader (Structures) ¤
¤ Eesive - Entertainer ¤
Smuggling, Entertaining and Crafting all need a lot of love
Combat is not everything
No new Entertainer content in the foreseeable future, Why?
Because the Devs love PVP too much to even admit there are other reasons to play this game!
GeoTA
Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:08 am
#29






Dy-nod wrote:

Turn off the xp loss for bh death, or turn off visibility altogether until you fix this bloody mess. The Designers of SWG are griefing people with their new content by allowing all the junk that is going on to continue. I won't rehash, only a completeidiot wouldn't know what these issues are by now.


Let us enjoy the new expansion as much as everyone else...or at the very least don't penalize us for it.


I used to enjoy bh visits, kept the game enjoyable and kept me on my toes. Now it's a joke and you at SOE know it's a joke...turn it off NOW and let me play the content I paid $30 for!



Dy



P.S. On the Loot Cloak and species restrictions...considering that NPC Ithorians have been seen wearing them...Bite me SOE! You won't respond to the 100's of posts and dozens of threads on this issue...yet you wave it in our faces....just plain sick.





Totally agree!

Court-Jester
Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:12 am
#30






Sissor-BP wrote:



Really...


Well when you finally understand that the old days are gone and are not coming back you will be eating those words. You will probably run crying to mommy saying 'wahhh they took away my power' where those of us who dont care about the power but enjoy the meaning of jedi will celebrate your loss.








Maybe some of us would like the Jedi class to live up to its personification. I certainly won't give up the fight for a better profession. And I certainly won't bend over while they destroy us. I do not care to simply lay down and give in to whatever changes that may come up. Including and not limited to, the weakening of my profession.




_______________________________________
G h e i s t v C o u r t - J e s t e r v L i l i t h
Death Before Dishonor - Master of 32 professions
Future Jedi Correspondent and Defender of the Jedi Profession

[ ] Has beaten SWG on Ultra Bring the PainMode (Perma Death)
[x] Has beaten SWG on Super Difficult Mode (Saber-tef / Skill Loss)
[x] Has beaten SWG on Chap my Hide Mode (Post-9)
[x] Has beaten SWG on Bring out the Gimp Mode (Post-Curb)
[x]Refuses to play SWG on Carebear Mode (Post-NGE)
Cyprus301
Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:13 am
#31






Court-Jester wrote:


You should have stopped there. The old, open mouth insert foot, saying comes to mind.






^"doas you say? not as you do?" oh,, here is another one... "Do not speak in the hearing of a fool," AKA "to argue with a fool is to be a fool." (anyone else know where this saying is found?)




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Sissor-BP
Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:13 am
#32






Court-Jester wrote:





Sissor-BP wrote:



Really...


Well when you finally understand that the old days are gone and are not coming back you will be eating those words. You will probably run crying to mommy saying 'wahhh they took away my power' where those of us who dont care about the power but enjoy the meaning of jedi will celebrate your loss.








Maybe some of us would like the Jedi class to live up to its personification. I certainly won't give up the fight for a better profession. And I certainly won't bend over while they destroy us. I do not care to simply lay down and give in to whatever changes that may come up. Including and not limited to, the weakening of my profession.





Then you have just got to realise that you have already lost.




¤ Sissor - Jedi ¤ Dinie - Smuggler ¤
¤ Swilja - Officer ¤ Everilda - Trader (Structures) ¤
¤ Eesive - Entertainer ¤
Smuggling, Entertaining and Crafting all need a lot of love
Combat is not everything
No new Entertainer content in the foreseeable future, Why?
Because the Devs love PVP too much to even admit there are other reasons to play this game!
Cyrex
Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:28 am
#33

Greetings one and all,



Welcome to the world of PvP, as always when one is pitted against another with a set of skillsets that are not exactly equal , people will latch onto what gives them an advantage and the ability to survive. When some of these advantagesare taken away there will be an outcry. Many many beta testers warned of this very thing, that SOE would spend many many hours balanceing classes and skillsets. In the end there will be some sort of outcry about anything involveing anything todo with classes and skillsets. Human beings are very crafty and will find the loopholeor te advantage, this is why MMPORGS will always be chasseing their tail, they will in no way be able to keep up with 250K plus players.


What are the solutions? PvP needs to really be thought out,Whether a form of limited PvP or active PvP or whatever, there is a slow erosion taking place, frustration, anger, and in general uncetainity on where this realm is going. It might be nice if someone would get a solid group of PvP'er and gamers in general and get them to explain how PvP works, how gank trains are created, griefing, spikeing, ambushing, training, etc etc and then someone might be able to make something that works , but I have my doubts. Everytime someone says they have a method of creating a solid PvP systemm, it always falls into the class balanceing issues, the gear issues, the skillsets, in the end in PvP the dog is always chaseing it's tail.


Conclusion? Not sure there are any, SWG is coded and online, massive changes are almost impossible to make without creating a termite nest that Terminx would run away from. Maybe they have learned they're lessons, maybe not..only time will tell.





First step towards wisdom is knowing you know nothing
Dy-nod
Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:21 pm
#34


It needs to be turned off...simple as that...



Dy




Dy-nod
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Turd_Ferguson523
Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:18 pm
#35



Dy-nod wrote:

It needs to be turned off...simple as that...

Dy






No it really doesn't. Its simple to you of course because thats what 'you' want. And its not likely to happen anyways. Pretty obvious they want the majority of Jedi gone.



Makiino
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Dy-nod
Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:24 pm
#36






Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:





Dy-nod wrote:


It needs to be turned off...simple as that...



Dy








No it really doesn't. Its simple to you of course because thats what 'you' want. And its not likely to happen anyways. Pretty obvious they want the majority of Jedi gone.





Yes it does for the reason's cited in the first post in this thread. Whether its likely or not. Just saying no adds zip to this thread so beat it. I liked the forced PVP aspect of Jedi. So before you go nuts on the response...take a moment to read the original post.


It is not balanced at the moment...and it's allowing for major content to be griefed...so turn off xp loss...and for that matter turn off xp gain on Mustafar..until this gets sorted...I am not endorsing a grindfest their either...just fairness for all to enjoy the content...


Dy





Dy-nod
Master Weaponsmith
Project Mongoose Mayor
-PheaR-
Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:24 pm
#37






Sissor-BP wrote:

Just admit your version of Jedi is dead and buried and deal with it, there is no going back, the only way is forward so stop trying to bring back old ideas, they wont happen. Only those in SOE and LA know what is to happen to us but we can make judgements of what is to happen based on what has been said, we do not however have any say in what will happen. So your attitude and beliefs of what Jedi need are dead and mute.



Thank you come again!






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Grunzer
Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:34 pm
#38






Dy-nod wrote:

I have the expansion but I cannot bring myself to even go there...I have heard the first hand reports of what's going on in my server and others...the issues are well defined...


They gave us no option...they are just plain griefing us from content.



Dy








I haven't gone either. From what I'm hearing it sounds like Griefing/Killstealing/LootWhoring Central. And not my scene.






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Turd_Ferguson523
Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:34 pm
#39



Dy-nod wrote:


Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:


Dy-nod wrote:

It needs to be turned off...simple as that...

Dy






No it really doesn't. Its simple to you of course because thats what 'you' want. And its not likely to happen anyways. Pretty obvious they want the majority of Jedi gone.


Yes it does for the reason's cited in the first post in this thread. Whether its likely or not. Just saying no adds zip to this thread so beat it. I liked the forced PVP aspect of Jedi. So before you go nuts on the response...take a moment to read the original post.

It is not balanced at the moment...and it's allowing for major content to be griefed...so turn off xp loss...and for that matter turn off xp gain on Mustafar..until this gets sorted...I am not endorsing a grindfest their either...just fairness for all to enjoy the content...

Dy






Well I won't go nuts with the reply, but its not going to happen. And beat it? Please, you start paying my monthly fees for this game, then you can have a say where/when I post or not, til then, pipe down chuckles. Go back to dreaming.



Makiino
I've found no people for killing time, so I found time for killing people
[Combat Medic] - [Master Rifleman]
Melting Imperials, from the IMPside out

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