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Thread: Is this what jedi are becoming????

Nathanielstarr
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:14 pm
#27

Jedi are worried about bounty hunters but they duel each other out in the open. They'd rather use an exploit (/duel to determine if a BH is after you is an exploit) than try and play by the rules.

If you don't want to deal with bounty hunters then definetly do not duel in major cities.
Yenu
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:36 pm
#28

Do you want to know something dumb? I load in Theed and go to the bazaar to pick up my crate of booster blue and there was a group of Rebel overt Jedi nearby and without noticing them two of them sent me a /duel /endduel. That is how paranoid some are, I only have one profession master after publish 9 conversion and I was carrying a lightsaber with street clothes... Even when I am on my main character I get asked in tell "are you here to kill me?" while I am holding a powerhammer with a Teras Kasi Master title.

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The duel and end duel is a way for jedi to know if you are after them. If you are after one of the jedi he will get a message saying " You can't duel this person".
Iawalein
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:45 pm
#29






Praastep wrote:

Jedi have almost always been, for the most part,a paranoid, and fanatical bunch.


The resaon for the behavior is simple, if you consider the gameplay they are subjected to for months of grinding, always looking over thier shoulder.


You'd be paranoid, distrusting, resentful, and downright psycho too.


Don't hate the players, hate the game, or at least the devs who designed this wacky system in the first place.







Exactly.


Give the player a grind that is 35 times longer than mastering a full standard template (as an ADDITION to this template), make this grind subject to severe losses through game mechanics, give the power over XP loss to a PLAYER class, then wonder why there is hostility, paranoia and just plain animosity. Seems to be a calculated outcome in my opinion.


If it was not supposed to lead to this, why not make the jedi XP loss NPC related?


Oh, and you're only paranoid if no one is out to get you. LOL





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Loook
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:48 pm
#30

I got killed at bazaar today while in the midst of changing clothes...didnt realize till i was stasis'd.


lame.





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Yenu
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:51 pm
#31

DAnte wrote:




hey i agree with you on that...


i guess i am the last sportman out there then because i beleive in fair play...

hopefully they will take some of this to the development stage and implement these ideas.. i hate PVP... i don't like killing another player to me it seems unfair... you worked hard to make yourself what you are... then to fight and loose... and loose what you worked hard to achieve is not fair... the xp loss for jedi is a borked idea... if it was less or there was maybe a different system in play or heck even have other kinds of bounties.. like sumgglers... other criminals and such... maybe even GCW bounties... like the Colonels in the game.. but have it that they have to be combatant.. this i believe would bring back the GCW as well and give us what we really want...


1 other thing i want to see go away is jedi duels infront of a starport... but thats my opinion and i know its not going away so i shall live with it...


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I agree with you but you would like to thank the old jedi who complain about the new jedi. They are the reason for the xp lost. Long time ago they used to use their BH alternate characters to kill his own jedi for easy cash orve and over again. SOE didn't like that and added the xp lost. Thank you again almighty pre cu jedi. This little problem needs to be fix before xp lost removal


Many nerfed we see in the game is due to people abusing the system. For the people who has been around when nobody mastered their profession yet, you know what I'm talking about.
TheMonkeyDude
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:25 pm
#32






Nathanielstarr wrote:
Jedi are worried about bounty hunters but they duel each other out in the open. They'd rather use an exploit (/duel to determine if a BH is after you is an exploit) than try and play by the rules.

If you don't want to deal with bounty hunters then definetly do not duel in major cities.





It is quite literally, through your average game play, impossible to remain off the terminals.


When i was a newb padawan i had one kunga get within 30m of me and i got a bh, visability is a once ya got even a tiny bit your on the terms.


It's also kinda funny, i remeber bh's using a /duel exploit which prevented jedi from doing ANY thing, perhaps i should search for your posts advocating fixing that.


Until no bh exploits it'd be best for you to shut that hole in the front of your face you call a mouth when your about to poke other classes for doing it.


If i were to say all bh's where retarded a$$holes and base it off your posts alone one would have to agree, but luckily you aren't the only bh in game.
Nathanielstarr
Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:32 pm
#33






TheMonkeyDude wrote:





Nathanielstarr wrote:
Jedi are worried about bounty hunters but they duel each other out in the open. They'd rather use an exploit (/duel to determine if a BH is after you is an exploit) than try and play by the rules.

If you don't want to deal with bounty hunters then definetly do not duel in major cities.





It is quite literally, through your average game play, impossible to remain off the terminals.


When i was a newb padawan i had one kunga get within 30m of me and i got a bh, visability is a once ya got even a tiny bit your on the terms.


It's also kinda funny, i remeber bh's using a /duel exploit which prevented jedi from doing ANY thing, perhaps i should search for your posts advocating fixing that.


Until no bh exploits it'd be best for you to shut that hole in the front of your face you call a mouth when your about to poke other classes for doing it.


If i were to say all bh's where retarded a$$holes and base it off your posts alone one would have to agree, but luckily you aren't the only bh in game.





I've had jedi tell me differently and low level jedi seem to stay off the terminals these days. I have not had a low level (less than 200k) mark in weeks.
Elven_Prowler
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:00 pm
#34




I think a simple fix to it would be to give xp debt back to jedi upon PvE death and remove it from BH death.



not really possible if you ask me. I do think 500k is a bit steep, but you do have to keep jedi's from saying.... okay you can kill me for 75k credits. I also think that now that xp isn't really limited by jedi skill boxes, (Limited by your grind group) it should be an equal opportunity loss. But I think PVE death penalty really should be reinstated. I mean really, dieing pve nowdays? what are you doing? trying to solo a krayt or what? PVE death is easy to avoid and therefore should be a worse offense than a BH kill. I totally understand factional kills being pulled out to encourage the GCW though.
Turd_Ferguson523
Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:52 pm
#35



Praastep wrote:

Jedi have almost always been, for the most part, a paranoid, and fanatical bunch.

The resaon for the behavior is simple, if you consider the gameplay they are subjected to for months of grinding, always looking over thier shoulder.

You'd be paranoid, distrusting, resentful, and downright psycho too.

Don't hate the players, hate the game, or at least the devs who designed this wacky system in the first place.






BS. I haven't bought into the 'product of your environment' theory regarding people in real life. I certainly don't buy into it in a damn game. People are given choices in life as they are in this game. You make a certain choice, you deal with the consequences, especially knowing what the parameters are for living within that choice beforehand.



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Gillik
Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:29 pm
#36

easy non logout macro


/stand;


/pause 10;


/sit;


/pause 10;


/macro <name>;








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Dante_Cryvante
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:02 am
#37


oh yeah i have had that before...



its kinda annoying.. but to stop the paranoya i yell to them NO I AM NOT HUNTING...



I AM SHOPPING.... then walk to them and start asking them where the heck can i find the paticular item i am looking for... most times they are cool... but there are times i was banned from a city because i was standing on the steps of there city hall... i am sorry i decided to sit there and log... when i came back on i went use a item in there and saw i was banned... some people.. well its there city... so what ever... just never go back there anymore.. only hurts there merchants when your customer base is banned from the city... lol











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Pday
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:04 am
#38






Dante_Cryvante wrote:


oh yeah i have had that before...



its kinda annoying.. but to stop the paranoya i yell to them NO I AM NOT HUNTING...



I AM SHOPPING.... then walk to them and start asking them where the heck can i find the paticular item i am looking for... most times they are cool... but there are times i was banned from a city because i was standing on the steps of there city hall... i am sorry i decided to sit there and log... when i came back on i went use a item in there and saw i was banned... some people.. well its there city... so what ever... just never go back there anymore.. only hurts there merchants when your customer base is banned from the city... lol







depends a bit, but im a member of a rebel guild, our city is a rebel stronghold, we ban most imps on sight.



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ArranSound
Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:11 am
#39






Pday wrote:





Dante_Cryvante wrote:


oh yeah i have had that before...



its kinda annoying.. but to stop the paranoya i yell to them NO I AM NOT HUNTING...



I AM SHOPPING.... then walk to them and start asking them where the heck can i find the paticular item i am looking for... most times they are cool... but there are times i was banned from a city because i was standing on the steps of there city hall... i am sorry i decided to sit there and log... when i came back on i went use a item in there and saw i was banned... some people.. well its there city... so what ever... just never go back there anymore.. only hurts there merchants when your customer base is banned from the city... lol







depends a bit, but im a member of a rebel guild, our city is a rebel stronghold, we ban most imps on sight.





In my case I was a rebel and banned from a rebel city. The funny thing is that I was onlyscouting out remote cities on Dant for my Jedi, as I'd heard that GVT missions were good. I basically did most of my grind on wild lairs in the outermost edges of Endor.


I was only trying out some missions on my alt, to asertain the potential for getting visibility on my Jedi in that location. In retrospect maybe I should have spoken to him, but it was kind of strange seeing someone following me at a distance, maybe it was my own Jedi paranoia that had manifested itselfon my alt, that made me see if I could break free from his following.





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