Jedi Archive
Thread: Idea to stop the hate
Gelotri wrote:
And how is it nerfing another profession? They arent losing any skills. The only thing that really affects them is the ability to kill another player. If they really want to do that then let them go fulltime Overt and I am sure someone will oblige them.
The idea behind the post wasnt to be ugly. The idea was to throw some ideas out and see what others thought. Its called open forum. No attacks needed. Save them for in game. Thank you.....drive through.
Think of it this way...let's say that jedi would be turned into fighting npc's only. How many jedi would call that a nerf? Jedi is a PVP profession, just like Bounty Hunter. To remove their ability to hunt player jedi would hurt both professions...and the vast majority of jedi would be opposed to such an idea. BH's already have npc marks that are far more profitable than jedi, they still hunt jedi.
Gelotri wrote:
Having been on both sides of the fence, I believe I can make an educated suggestion. Some may like it some may not. It is an idea that has been beat to death. It IS something that should be addressed by the developers no matter what idea they come up with.
BH missions on Jedi
With the not so recent discovery that they can spawn an NPC to take out AFK grinders, why not replace BH missions on Jedi with BH and Jedi NPC's that can only be attacked by the Jedi they have come for. My logic is this:
- Jedi are in no way close to being able to handle a stacked BH let alone multiple BH's at once, as a general rule (there are always exceptions).
- With the game mechanics allowing Jedi to be hunted by BH's with no penalty to the BH for losing, it is a simple case of sanctioned player griefing. This is just my opinion. How can a lvl 80 stacked MBH be allowed to attack a lower level Jedi? If you run a regular mission from a regular mission terminal, they couldnt draw a level 50 mission. So how can they be allowed to attack a level 50 Jedi?
- Why can the Developers not make it so when a Jedi attains enough Visability, a random spawned BH/Jedi NPC comes for them, and of equivalent level?
- BH's have their own terminals and now an awesome Loot table attached to their profession. They have their content technically.
Just a few thoughts and maybe others can add onto this. Mature responses only please.
Oh Yes so all jedi under level 80 that do not have a full template should get a free grind up... What is it with you jedi? It is like the "force" has blinded you, you have no common sense...
allproucando wrote:Well, if we did that route, the player BH will complain that they can't make any money off of the Jedi because they would claim that their source of getting 226k is slim now since there is now a npc that helps them to kill off player jedi. It just wouldn't work out too well. I just want to see the 75 percent armorbreak reduction armorsuit gone then we the jedi have a great chance to fight back and as well, reduce some of the food potency would help out. It is just that we can do the same by eating the same food. It is just the armorbraek suit is what I really have a problem with.
If they have the 75 percent reducton armorbreak suit and couple that with 4000 doc or 4000 cm then they can either beat us or make it become a draw and forcing us to run away because our force is running low or mind is about to go. Again, the mind has become an issue already. So I think it boils down to the armorsuit and the powerful CM/BH's. We just have to level the playing field a bit more with our current abilities and not nerf anything. For instance, force combat speed should be back to 25.0 points and the heal timer should be reduced to 4 or 3 second delay timer, not 6 seconds. As well, fix the mind cost for using the Lightsaber and the healing powers.
Your reliance on this one skill makes you weak. Imagine what the BHs have to go through-a weapon that has a lower min than that of an LS and has no armorbreak. Once BHs are given an armorbreak, you might be able to justify taking ab slices out. However, it is our only defense against a skill that, otherwise, has no counter.
Edit: I agree with unnerfing the Jedi mind situation. It really is sad how fast their mind can go out. Personally, they should remove the mind costs from normal attacks and reduce the mind cost of infusion.
Message Edited by Shender on 09-08-2005 04:32 PM
e3ApeXX wrote:
Oh Yes so all jedi under level 80 that do not have a full template should get a free grind up... What is it with you jedi? It is like the "force" has blinded you, you have no common sense...
i have been working on my jedi since i made it(finally after 9 months) and since the bh started coming around, i have not griefed them once.. nor have i ever been capable of killing them.. anyof them(i know i suck)
there are a few who have dueled me after killing me, letting me learn how to do better and learn more about my profession. also earning a lot of respect from then at the same time.
I personally feel that we as jedi just need to not flame or hasslea bh for killing or hunting, and offer to duel them again after they win or we win however it turns out. that way we will all be able to enjoy this game we love enough to pay $15 a month to play. i know i will get flamed probably for writing this, but hey it is only words.. and in the end the game we play is exactly that.. a game.. so practice makes perfect, and relax..it is not like they are hurting anything. perhaps if we change our paradigm, then we we can have a chance at changing theirs??
Jacella wrote:
So, the point is that you are losing to Bounty Hunters and now want them to stop being able to take your mission even though you gained the visibility by choice and don't want to face the preprocussions of that action.
No Jacella, I either didnt explain it clearly enough or you didnt read it well. I havent been BH'd in a while. I work on keeping my Vis low. I am just reflecting on what I have witnessed. Also, if you read the original post, there are repercussions to Vis and they cant be paid off......they are NPC's. This way you dont have people sending and receiving hate tells or complaining about player griefing. It defuses the situation. I just dont think its a cool thing to have one group of players that can basically grief lower CL players with nothing to lose.