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ScottyFL

Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:35 am

My third gen 2h saber maxes out at over 500 right now. With Force Speed 2, I can kill all rancors pretty quickly.

But Barb is right, unless the CU changes things - MLS is the best all-around Jedi mastery. If I do go MLS, however, I'll do it for the defense, not the offense. My offense is pretty good right now.

But, to get MLS, I'm gonna have to forgo Animal Attack, at least until I go Master Powers. The reason? Force Armor 2 + Force Intimidate 2 + MLS is a defensive juggernaut.

And you can't have all that and both MLS+Master Powers. One mastery has to go, and I guess it's Master Powers.

Barb-Wire

Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:41 am

#15

force intimidate is only useful on non-jedi animals and NPC.

force armour is self inflicted force drain. i rejoiced on TC bria each time i fought a jedi that tossed up FA. but if you got someone feeding you force you can tank for a very long time in PVE like that.

personally i prefer the 73 force regen every ten seconds and all the perks that come witha double mastery. im not there yet SHOULD be master sabers tonite and i can go back to working on powers. but i can see the advantages of it now having had the oppurtunity to fight on TC with my partial template.

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l_StarFox_l

Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:46 am

#16

I'm thinking of switching to double mastery. Fighting regular professions has become a joke now, so I'm more interested in Jedi vs Jedi combat. Double mastery is pretty much a heavy prequisite for that.

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ScottyFL

Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:46 am

#17

Yep, agree Barb, but FI2, which I have now, is gonna be dandy against BHs!

ossireese

Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:55 am

#18

ScottyFL wrote:

My third gen 2h saber maxes out at over 500 right now. With Force Speed 2, I can kill all rancors pretty quickly.

But Barb is right, unless the CU changes things - MLS is the best all-around Jedi mastery. If I do go MLS, however, I'll do it for the defense, not the offense. My offense is pretty good right now.

But, to get MLS, I'm gonna have to forgo Animal Attack, at least until I go Master Powers. The reason? Force Armor 2 + Force Intimidate 2 + MLS is a defensive juggernaut.

And you can't have all that and both MLS+Master Powers. One mastery has to go, and I guess it's Master Powers.

Please explain to me how you can have a 500 dam 2handed third gen when the top pvp guys need 4 almost perfect (-9 50/50 ) pearls to get a 500 dam 4th gen double blade

Apology accepted captain Needa..

ScottyFL

Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:50 am

#19

Update: My 3rd gen damage is just 425 max. It sure hits for more than that, though.

WookieOgre

Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:06 am

#20

JemyM wrote:

Currently im doing very nice in PvE with only Force Armor 1...

but against a player...

first of all, the fight will take a long time. You can heal, the opponent can heal. 45% synthsteak might sound much, but its out in 30-40 seconds, then what?

Force Intimidate 2 is very expensive, and time out in 1,5min. Force Armor 2 might look good at the paper, but suck up alot of force. It works fine for awhile, but in the end you will have used up most of your force while the MLS guy havnt even started to use his.

Furthermore, when you are both maxed out, the MLS guy will do 65% more damage than you do, thanks to his natural toughness, 4th generation saber and more powerful special.

Just thought I'd mention, if you are using steak in PvP that is not the best option. Steak fills up way to fast IMO. Only time I will take steak is when I immediatly log into the game to go look for someone to buff me. By the time anyone comes for me my stomach is clear.

What you should be using is waffers.True theyhave less damage reductionfor less hits but they only have 5 filling.You can eat those all day compared to 2-3 steaks and your done. Trust me in real PvP when you have not one but multiple people hitting you waffers is the way to go.

In PvP everyone must realize that sometimes the best food is the food that gives you more options. Having less filling gives you more options, like k/d food, vercup, pik pie, ect....

Barb-Wire

Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:37 am

#21

ScottyFL wrote:

So maybe I don't need MLS after all, lol.

Message Edited by ScottyFL on 02-16-2005 05:06 PM

i made it to master sabers last nite and the difference even with my 3rd gen and old saber4 specials is simply astounding. the specials at master are amazing. the defense in PVE is VERY VERY nice. think of it like the diff tween sabers 3 and saber4...

i just want to make that point for you from having last nite gone from sabers 4 to master the experience is still fresh in my mind. each time i make a major step in progress on my way to master powers master saber heal 4004 every thing i had considered in choosing this path has been confirmed in how i thought it would work.

the only thing missing in master sabers is ranged damage reduction and i get that from intimidate. defender is no substitute.

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ScottyFL

Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:40 am

#22

Yeah, Barb, I gotta do MLS. See my other posts.

My only concern now is time.

Vehon

Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:55 am

#23

FA2 is good, if used right. If you use it as a main source of protection and just a knight then you are surely hurting. But if you are using it to help with a first strike attack, or when you get into a bit of trouble then its worth it.

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Barb-Wire

Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:22 am

#24

ScottyFL wrote:

Yeah, Barb, I gotta do MLS. See my other posts.

My only concern now is time.

time is relative!! when i plug into SWG i do at least one buff on jediness. after that i may go do other things but i ensure i make SOME progress each time i log in. i have a full time job and family. fortunately we are both gamers to the extreme so our weekends tend to be playing. however i have been jedi since november.

a friend of mine has much less play time than i do and he made his template and has re-ground in less time than i have just gotten to master sabers....

the difference i guess is that i KNOW what i want out of jedi. there is no doubt in me so each box i get i know i never have to revist and re-grind. being doubt free is a freedom of itself. i can tell your still not sure. and that is where your concerns are stemming.

one buff a nite at a slow pace is 400k. that is 2million XP a week. you need 35 million to double master. that is 17.5 weeks to finish. much less time than it takes to go through the village to unlock... at master sabers your XP gain goes up because it takes FAR FAR less time to kill something. so 17.5 weeks is an outside estimate...

totally doable if you do one buff each nite not counting weekends...

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Former Dark Force Wielder
Ex-Imperial Navy

ScottyFL

Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:35 am

#25

I can only play about 3 days a week max. Can't play every night, darn it.

But you know what: I'm gonna get there, no matter how long it takes!

JemyM

Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:34 pm

#26

WookieOgre wrote:

Just thought I'd mention, if you are using steak in PvP that is not the best option. Steak fills up way to fast IMO. Only time I will take steak is when I immediatly log into the game to go look for someone to buff me. By the time anyone comes for me my stomach is clear.

What you should be using is waffers.True theyhave less damage reductionfor less hits but they only have 5 filling.You can eat those all day compared to 2-3 steaks and your done. Trust me in real PvP when you have not one but multiple people hitting you waffers is the way to go.

In PvP everyone must realize that sometimes the best food is the food that gives you more options. Having less filling gives you more options, like k/d food, vercup, pik pie, ect....

I have a planned strategy, and I have no idea if it would work or not. My template is 4004 Saber, Master Healer, Master Enhancer, and I will likely never ever end up in a fight vs another Jedi. What I need to worry about are BH's that wont be able to be stackers.

Food:
Thaktillo
Vercupti
Exo-Protein
+ Eventually Neutron Pixie
Brandy or Mandalorian Wine

Force Powers:
Force Armor 1
Force Speed 2
Force Resist States

The strategy is to take one hell of a beating, then TotalHeal all back. My HAM will stay at 4500, and I will have 40+25+25=64% armor with very little filling/forcecost.

I wont mess with Jedi, but after I tapped their armorfood (whatever) away, its HeadHit3 FTW.

If all else fails, ForceRun3.
If all else completely fails, Regain Consciousness

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