Jedi Archive
Thread: Is master enhancer worth it or?
bindzor
Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:20 pm
#15
I dont know about that sap costs too much force/lasts only1min (used to be 3 i think)/ and it only does -25% (used to be -50%)
FarSuperior wrote:
MLS, ME, H 4040 is a bit better
and yes its worth it... whoever says that it is worthless doesnt know wat they are talking about... cus i pwned people with that temp all the time lol
xEPICx
Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:25 pm
#17
bindzor wrote:
I dont know about that sap costs too much force/lasts only1min (used to be 3 i think)/ and it only does -25% (used to be -50%)
FarSuperior wrote:
MLS, ME, H 4040 is a bit better
and yes its worth it... whoever says that it is worthless doesnt know wat they are talking about... cus i pwned people with that temp all the time lol
Actually, it's -30% mind and -35% action with the improved version of Sap.
bindzor
Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:27 pm
#18
xEPICx wrote:
bindzor wrote:
I dont know about that sap costs too much force/lasts only1min (used to be 3 i think)/ and it only does -25% (used to be -50%)
FarSuperior wrote:
MLS, ME, H 4040 is a bit better
and yes its worth it... whoever says that it is worthless doesnt know wat they are talking about... cus i pwned people with that temp all the time lol
Actually, it's -30% mind and -35% action with the improved version of Sap.
think they nerfed that again
Drazharr
Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:38 pm
#19
eternalfool wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
eternalfool wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
Legundon wrote:
bindzor wrote:
Is MLS/ME/H4400 worth it? Is it any good or just worthless? PVE/PVP/FUN?
if your a jedi.. statis run works..
if your a dark jedi.. you fight and try to click AI but then you realize you respeced into a MLS ME and the icon doesnt work anymore..
then you die...
no when ur a DJ like myself... u pull choke and AB and dervish (just for the look of surprise on their face and the cool animation) then some KB/intim/sabery moves... maybe drain... use stim D's and 500 heals (yes i fit the dark part nicely donmt i?) use some FR1 and some cloak (just to piss em off) hey.... i need no AI.... or defenses at all really... thanx tho for pointi9ng out wat FotM's do and not wat DJ's do
QFE
thank u... and incase u could tell from my skills.... my temp is MLS/MP/enh 2xx3/ nov healer (to me its the perfect dark jedi temp)
It is the perfect DJ template, and seeing some more around wouldnt hurt, though being rares fun too
As a MLS/MP/4040 Healer with one respec left, I have thought hard about the MLS/MP/en3002 template (I would prefer Force Speed 2 instead of Force Drain.
Because the truth is, even with 4040 Heal, if I start having to heal much, I'm dead. I have to surprise and deal overwhelming damage. And to surprise, I need to have more force to hide with cloak than my current template provides,
RebelArchAngel
Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:42 pm
#20
Drazharr wrote:
eternalfool wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
eternalfool wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
Legundon wrote:
bindzor wrote:
Is MLS/ME/H4400 worth it? Is it any good or just worthless? PVE/PVP/FUN?
if your a jedi.. statis run works..
if your a dark jedi.. you fight and try to click AI but then you realize you respeced into a MLS ME and the icon doesnt work anymore..
then you die...
no when ur a DJ like myself... u pull choke and AB and dervish (just for the look of surprise on their face and the cool animation) then some KB/intim/sabery moves... maybe drain... use stim D's and 500 heals (yes i fit the dark part nicely donmt i?) use some FR1 and some cloak (just to piss em off) hey.... i need no AI.... or defenses at all really... thanx tho for pointi9ng out wat FotM's do and not wat DJ's do
QFE
thank u... and incase u could tell from my skills.... my temp is MLS/MP/enh 2xx3/ nov healer (to me its the perfect dark jedi temp)
It is the perfect DJ template, and seeing some more around wouldnt hurt, though being rares fun too
As a MLS/MP/4040 Healer with one respec left, I have thought hard about the MLS/MP/en3002 template (I would prefer Force Speed 2 instead of Force Drain.
Because the truth is, even with 4040 Heal, if I start having to heal much, I'm dead. I have to surprise and deal overwhelming damage. And to surprise, I need to have more force to hide with cloak than my current template provides,
about the healing: Yea... thats why i didnt do that... i thought i would temp myself to use it to heal too much... i use Stim D's... sometime s force heal... cloak to regen... i wanted drain cuz i like it lol =P
Drazharr
Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:45 pm
#21
Oh, as for Master Enhancer being worth it - depends.
Personally, I think the only good Master Enhancer box skill is Stasis - that one's a doozy and I wish I had it.
But Force Run 3 is an escape-only skill - you can do any damage with it on, unlike Force Run 1. I know, I know, you can toggle it on and off, but that uses too much force. If they had it like it used to be, where you could choose between FR1/2/3, then it would be very valuable, indeed.
Regain Consciousness? Now that the only xp penalty you get is from BH kills, I don't see the real value in this one. When you use it, you are "groggy" and you can't attack. Better to clone and get back in the fight than to waste time with Regain Consciousness.
I think the Master boxes of MLS, Powers and even Healer are better (standing alone) than the Master Enhancer box. I do think the Master Enhancer box is better than the Master Defender box, because of Stasis. Unfortunately, you have to get a whole useless tree (Force Resistance) to get the Master Enhancer box.
Drazharr
Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:50 pm
#22
RebelArchAngel wrote:
Drazharr wrote:
eternalfool wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
eternalfool wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
Legundon wrote:
bindzor wrote:
Is MLS/ME/H4400 worth it? Is it any good or just worthless? PVE/PVP/FUN?
if your a jedi.. statis run works..
if your a dark jedi.. you fight and try to click AI but then you realize you respeced into a MLS ME and the icon doesnt work anymore..
then you die...
no when ur a DJ like myself... u pull choke and AB and dervish (just for the look of surprise on their face and the cool animation) then some KB/intim/sabery moves... maybe drain... use stim D's and 500 heals (yes i fit the dark part nicely donmt i?) use some FR1 and some cloak (just to piss em off) hey.... i need no AI.... or defenses at all really... thanx tho for pointi9ng out wat FotM's do and not wat DJ's do
QFE
thank u... and incase u could tell from my skills.... my temp is MLS/MP/enh 2xx3/ nov healer (to me its the perfect dark jedi temp)
It is the perfect DJ template, and seeing some more around wouldnt hurt, though being rares fun too
As a MLS/MP/4040 Healer with one respec left, I have thought hard about the MLS/MP/en3002 template (I would prefer Force Speed 2 instead of Force Drain.
Because the truth is, even with 4040 Heal, if I start having to heal much, I'm dead. I have to surprise and deal overwhelming damage. And to surprise, I need to have more force to hide with cloak than my current template provides,
about the healing: Yea... thats why i didnt do that... i thought i would temp myself to use it to heal too much... i use Stim D's... sometime s force heal... cloak to regen... i wanted drain cuz i like it lol =P
But you know, if you are gonna only have 500 heals, why not get rid of that Novice Healing box, too! Go all the way! Use those points and go 4004 enhancer instead? You'd have enough force to turn Force Run 2 off and on with that temp.
Do those 500 heals really do you any good?
xEPICx
Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:00 pm
#23
You can attack right after using it but it fooks up your force regen for a while.
Drazharr wrote:
Regain Consciousness? Now that the only xp penalty you get is from BH kills, I don't see the real value in this one. When you use it, you are "groggy" and you can't attack. Better to clone and get back in the fight than to waste time with Regain Consciousness.
Drazharr
Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:02 pm
#24
xEPICx wrote:
You can attack right after using it but it fooks up your force regen for a while.
Drazharr wrote:
Regain Consciousness? Now that the only xp penalty you get is from BH kills, I don't see the real value in this one. When you use it, you are "groggy" and you can't attack. Better to clone and get back in the fight than to waste time with Regain Consciousness.
Yes, you can attack, but your force will drop like a stone. So, in effect, you can't really attack after using it.
RebelArchAngel
Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:44 am
#26
Legundon wrote:
bindzor wrote:
Is MLS/ME/H4400 worth it? Is it any good or just worthless? PVE/PVP/FUN?
if your a jedi.. statis run works..
if your a dark jedi.. you fight and try to click AI but then you realize you respeced into a MLS ME and the icon doesnt work anymore..
then you die...
no when ur a DJ like myself... u pull choke and AB and dervish (just for the look of surprise on their face and the cool animation) then some KB/intim/sabery moves... maybe drain... use stim D's and 500 heals (yes i fit the dark part nicely donmt i?) use some FR1 and some cloak (just to piss em off) hey.... i need no AI.... or defenses at all really... thanx tho for pointi9ng out wat FotM's do and not wat DJ's do