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Thread: Simple request to devs regarding visibility...

SSJRadiated
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:53 am
#14

The main point again is realism, i'd totally support making jedi harder to get AND vis easier to attain. The game is full of jedi standing around showing off their powers in the middle of busy cities. These should be the jedi on the terms.


The jedi willing to hide (as they should in this timeline) should have a fighting chance of staying hidden and still be able to have the same fun the "show offs" have.


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SSJRadiated
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:30 pm
#15


That isn't how I understood vis was supposed to work, So what your saying is only jedi are reporting other jedi to the BH terminals? Seems kinda backwards to me. I mean Obi-Wan didn't say "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if a million souls cried out in torment and were silenced at once, Oh, and the jedi's name is Darth Vader"


I guess all in all it makes the game alot less fun for us few jedi that don't run around with robes on, LS equiped, and jedi titles over our heads. I would think the devs would want the jedi to hide for many reasons besides realism, but in doing so were not allowed access to some of the best content.


TheDivineMajin
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:47 pm
#16

Quit complaining. You have your alpha class and your magic flashlight, so take it with all that comes with it.
Akel
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:59 pm
#17

If you don't want VIS don't fight the NPCs there are plenty of other critters you can AFK grind your way to the top with until you are strong enough to deal with BH's.

Pday
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:02 pm
#18

you agreed to bh fights when you got jedi, enjoy the content with your free alt, oh and i am a jedi. Jedi complaining about forced pvp are kinda like guys in the army complaining when they get shipped abroad.



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NoStyleGuy
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:07 pm
#19

/sarcasm

bah why should jedi have to get vis? Why shouldn't they just be allowed to access all of the games content with impunity. while being stronger than anybody else. why should they have to put up with 'forced pvp' at all? why dont the dev's just make "jedi" a starting class that u can grind up to in 24 hours.

/sarcasmoff

Jedi isn't a normal profession. Im a pistoleer, and i can enjoy all the NPC content I want with no fear of forced PvP. why dont you join me?



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trixb4kids
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:08 pm
#20

i agree with the original post but i highly doubt the idea would fly, this isnt the first time its been suggested.



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Jacella
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:09 pm
#21






SSJRadiated wrote:


That isn't how I understood vis was supposed to work, So what your saying is only jedi are reporting other jedi to the BH terminals? Seems kinda backwards to me. I mean Obi-Wan didn't say "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if a million souls cried out in torment and were silenced at once, Oh, and the jedi's name is Darth Vader"


I guess all in all it makes the game alot less fun for us few jedi that don't run around with robes on, LS equiped, and jedi titles over our heads. I would think the devs would want the jedi to hide for many reasons besides realism, but in doing so were not allowed access to some of the best content.







Ok...look at it this way. The Sith are reporting a lot of jedi to the BH guild, Jabba and others are reporting jedi, and people on the street are reporting jedi....Order-66, boys and girls. How you get visibility in a roleplay sense is up to your own imagination. The fact remains that the only way visibility can be removed in this game is to make all jedi perma-overt or to re-establish saber/powers tefs.





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Geddeo
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:12 pm
#22

CSI Coronet found a mysterious crime scene today. It seems that 30 meatlumps just 250m from town were hacked to pieces by whatapeared to be a lightsaber. Reliable sources say they have found a dna sample of the attacker and are putting together a bio signiture.The Emperor assured the public that asizable bounty will be placed on this mass murderer and justice will be served.


There, maybe that is how you get vis even though you don't leave any survivors. Besides, Jedi shouldn't kill npc's unless they have to, leave the mass murder to us sith.


Jacella
Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:18 pm
#23






Geddeo wrote:

CSI Coronet found a mysterious crime scene today. It seems that 30 meatlumps just 250m from town were hacked to pieces by whatapeared to be a lightsaber. Reliable sources say they have found a dna sample of the attacker and are putting together a bio signiture.The Emperor assured the public that asizable bounty will be placed on this mass murderer and justice will be served.


There, maybe that is how you get vis even though you don't leave any survivors. Besides, Jedi shouldn't kill npc's unless they have to, leave the mass murder to us sith.








Ooooohhhh....I like that!!! Good roleplaying


And I don't mass murder...we call it exterminating vermin.







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SSJRadiated
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:01 pm
#24

I can see both sides of the argument (and especially like Geddeo's scenario =). I guess I just get sick of getting cut off from most of the better content,and hope that the new system in the works can take a different approach to the whole situation.


This game has been taking a hard turn towards consentual PVP. After years playing different mmo's and getting ganked by the ever annoying unemployed kid typeswho have nothing better to do than figure out every exploit and use every 3rd party program they can in order to grief good honest players, I've finally given up the idea of going headlong into PVP situations.


I however for some reason did tons of hologrinding anyway knowing at some point I'd be forced into these situations and that is fine. It just burns me that the jedi that openly disregard the vis system are the ones who can have all the fun, while the jedi who choose to stay hidden (which IMHO makes the game more realistic for the timeline) are cut off from tons of fun content. IF only a system were made that made it more beneficial to hide the fact that your a jedi the whole game would at least seem more realistic imo.


If only the devs had put in the system they talked about where Boba Fett or Darth Vader would strike down the jedi openly displaying powers in busy towns.


Oh andbtw I would never afk grind, If I did ever take shortcuts I wouldnt still be a padawan.

GrimzKeeper
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:48 pm
#25






SSJRadiated wrote:

I can see both sides of the argument (and especially like Geddeo's scenario =). I guess I just get sick of getting cut off from most of the better content,and hope that the new system in the works can take a different approach to the whole situation.


This game has been taking a hard turn towards consentual PVP. After years playing different mmo's and getting ganked by the ever annoying unemployed kid typeswho have nothing better to do than figure out every exploit and use every 3rd party program they can in order to grief good honest players, I've finally given up the idea of going headlong into PVP situations.


I however for some reason did tons of hologrinding anyway knowing at some point I'd be forced into these situations and that is fine. It just burns me that the jedi that openly disregard the vis system are the ones who can have all the fun, while the jedi who choose to stay hidden (which IMHO makes the game more realistic for the timeline) are cut off from tons of fun content. IF only a system were made that made it more beneficial to hide the fact that your a jedi the whole game would at least seem more realistic imo.


If only the devs had put in the system they talked about where Boba Fett or Darth Vader would strike down the jedi openly displaying powers in busy towns.


Oh andbtw I would never afk grind, If I did ever take shortcuts I wouldnt still be a padawan.





Those of us who "openly disregard the vis system" have already spent the time in solitude grinding our temps. Vis is fine as it is, actually its way to easy now with groups not causing any.




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Geddeo
Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:25 am
#26






SSJRadiated wrote:

I however for some reason did tons of hologrinding anyway knowing at some point I'd be forced into these situations and that is fine. It just burns me that the jedi that openly disregard the vis system are the ones who can have all the fun, while the jedi who choose to stay hidden (which IMHO makes the game more realistic for the timeline) are cut off from tons of fun content. IF only a system were made that made it more beneficial to hide the fact that your a jedi the whole game would at least seem more realistic imo.






I know it burns, but you are stuck in a catch 22 here. If you want to play your jedi more realistic and try to stay hidden, then you are going to be missing out on content. A person in hiding doesn't go out and do crazy heroic stuff, they move to some small town and get a desk job. However, desk jobs tend to be boring and the people in them start looking for ways to make their lives more exciting. So you have some options in this case.


1. Do fun content stuff with your jedi one night and then play with your alt for 3 weeks. You can roll play it like you are some rebel coming out for an imortant mission and risking vis and life for a short time and then going back into hiding or something. This sucks because you won't get to play with your jedi that often, but it is more realistic.


2. Get some jedi abilities that will allow you to run away from bh's. There is no rule that says you have to kill or be killed. If you don't have a template that is good against bh's just run away from the battle. Enhancer is good for this. You get armor, stasis, root and force run. Not all jedi were combat guru's, and survival is a victory in itself.


3. Damn the torpedoes and go do whatever you want without worrying about vis. Sure you will get hunted every once in a while. Just make sure you play at peak hours so you are not the only jedi logged in and on the boards and I doubt you will see many BH's


4. Start a petition and get the devs to change the way the game works yet again. Get frustrated with the lack of response from the dev team and the flames from the rest of the jedi community. Build a following and get the corespondent to back you. After about 6 months you may see your request for a vis change go through and may not, but if history of this game can teach us anything it is that if you get your wish and the devs change vis yet again it will be in no way like you intended it to be and probably make your game experience worse not better.


5. Play like you have been and vent your frustrations on the boards whilepeople like mehope no dev reads it and takes you seriously.


I personally like concentrating on things I can control rather than wait for the devs to change something I don't like. Otherwise you just end up on these boards whining about how a doctor can actually out heal you and that it is impossible to kill a bh/cm. Or maybe if your proposed changes go through you will be on the GCW board whining about how many jedi there are and how easy it is for them now and why should they be 1.5x the power of a normal template.


Ok, rant over
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