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Thread: Mls/Mdef Suggestions?

trifidac
Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:44 am
#14

I don't mean to sound mean but with that kind of LS, you picked a bad template and against the majority of BH/CM you won't survive very well.




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VulcanLionheart
Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:02 am
#15

ok i made saber today and it came as like this


95 sac

28 fc

1.6 speed

458-555 damage

425 dps


How is that?



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Kev0r
Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:08 am
#16






VulcanLionheart wrote:

ok i made saber today and it came as like this


95 sac

28 fc

1.6 speed

458-555 damage

425 dps


How is that?






Better than it was


Two little hints to help you out....


NEVER stop tuning crystals or pearls. Dedicate your life to the finding of better resources. Don't give up, because 4 days ago I looted a "fair", gave it to my mate, and he tuned to 105/105 -5


Also, if your mind needs a regen badly then use /kneel. It regens slightly faster but jedi can still attack from a kneeling position. If you're not chasing him anyway, you can stay still, regen some mind and use saber throw or a good advlas rifle





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Biaggi
Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:29 am
#17

I would like to just back up what kevor just said about tuning pearls i sold a good crystal a week ago and the guy wanted to know if i had anymore for sale as he tuned it to 109 -6fc... so keep buying those crystals and pearls you never know they may have better tuning results now.......



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sebastainlenzi
Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:58 am
#18

I am a MLS/MDEF healer 4040........This template is really effective vs. any BH template..........PvE you just cant be beat if you watch your force and rest when you need it but with the PJ's on you have 7200 force (that is a lot).


Food stacking works for me, i take spice tea, bofa and blob first....with in like 4 min i can pop testers noodles, and remember i poped a spice like booster blue and all the def/off skill treats i want like Pie and vayerbrook and thundercloud and veg.Every 4 minutes you can stack another level of food on. What i mean by this is first round its all one stat food then second round its 2 stat and then 4 minutes later its a 3 stat food and so on till the breath of heaven or mando wine.


I hope i explained myself to some degree, i realize it makes sence for me and i have stock in a lot of food but i have tested this thing and still test this thing. Only one BH has as of late given me a run for my money.......i escaped but with 30 other one on one encounters i must be doing something right.


I think that the mls/mdef healer 3XXX enhancer XXX2 is a good template but with any template a wise man told me to truely master your template you need to work at it and any template will be a good one once you do that. I dont have root but i can always burst run and close critical distance with my opponent. I can use buildings and get around them i have drain action and man i cant tell you how many BH told me that they had no action to do crap.


Theabove players advice is really good but if you dont play your jedi how will youever know how to play him...how will you master. You do need a better saber for sure and betterperals, can you borrow a LS exp suit or make one? Those 2 points are a must esp for poor perals or crystals. Good luck and hope to hear some great stories of the BH you wacked.






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VulcanLionheart
Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:17 am
#19


My saber now playable i think.Now I began to hunt krayts with my guildies to find new pearls and finish my template in 2 days.Thnx again for your advices.Btw ı dont have a respec token and will stay as I am.Maybe I can change that xxx2 enhance with 2xxx one.But that channel thing is important also.

Message Edited by VulcanLionheart on 09-28-2005 03:19 PM



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Gully311
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:05 am
#20

If I may... try this...


MLS/MDef/Heal 3000/Enh 2000 Only takes 600K to grind out and change so if you hate not having channel that much it doesn't take that much to go back...


You lose Channel yes, but I argue that Channel is death in PvP because of the HAM costs.

You lose Force Wave... not a big deal with what you gain back, Suppression

You lose Transfer Force... not a combat skill so meh

You lose Force Shield... not very effective anyway, not effective at all vs. BH


You gain Force Speed 1... everyone knows faster is better even at MLS.

You gain Force Run 1... no damage reduction and little force cost, good for keeping up with your kiters with the /follow command, and catching up if you get rooted.

You gain Force Suppression... a -root- angers a kiting BH. This gives you the chance to hack at him in one place and get a Power Hit or two in, then KD at the end of the root and go for broke.


When I weighed the pros and cons, I went with Enhancer 2000. Give it a shot... living without channel isn't as scary as it seems.



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Kev0r
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:10 am
#21






Gully311 wrote:

If I may... try this...


MLS/MDef/Heal 3000/Enh 2000 Only takes 600K to grind out and change so if you hate not having channel that much it doesn't take that much to go back...


You lose Channel yes, but I argue that Channel is death in PvP because of the HAM costs.

You lose Force Wave... not a big deal with what you gain back, Suppression

You lose Transfer Force... not a combat skill so meh

You lose Force Shield... not very effective anyway, not effective at all vs. BH


You gain Force Speed 1... everyone knows faster is better even at MLS.

You gain Force Run 1... no damage reduction and little force cost, good for keeping up with your kiters with the /follow command, and catching up if you get rooted.

You gain Force Suppression... a -root- angers a kiting BH. This gives you the chance to hack at him in one place and get a Power Hit or two in, then KD at the end of the root and go for broke.


When I weighed the pros and cons, I went with Enhancer 2000. Give it a shot... living without channel isn't as scary as it seems.





That's my plan too, gonna test it out tonight I think



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tgrif11
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:28 am
#22


MLS/Mdef , healer 3000 and enhancer 2000 is my template.


It's an awesome templte i can tell you... best one i had in Pve for sure and the important PvP (1 vs 1 against BHs).


Your force pull is enough to outlast any BH and with a good saber you tear them apart.


The root / Force run 1 are great. Channel you can live without. so it takes a few more mins to rest between fights.. big deal. if you run low on force or get attacked by a 2nd BH soon after first or whatever just use a HOLO.


Works great for me. I havent lost to a BH in a long time.


Light_Runner
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:04 am
#23






tgrif11 wrote:

MLS/Mdef , healer 3000 and enhancer 2000 is my template.


It's an awesome templte i can tell you... best one i had in Pve for sure and the important PvP (1 vs 1 against BHs).


Your force pull is enough to outlast any BH and with a good saber you tear them apart.


The root / Force run 1 are great. Channel you can live without. so it takes a few more mins to rest between fights.. big deal. if you run low on force or get attacked by a 2nd BH soon after first or whatever just use a HOLO.


Works great for me. I havent lost to a BH in a long time.








If I may... try this...


MLS/MDef/Heal 3000/Enh 2000 Only takes 600K to grind out and change so if you hate not having channel that much it doesn't take that much to go back...


You lose Channel yes, but I argue that Channel is death in PvP because of the HAM costs.

You lose Force Wave... not a big deal with what you gain back, Suppression

You lose Transfer Force... not a combat skill so meh

You lose Force Shield... not very effective anyway, not effective at all vs. BH


You gain Force Speed 1... everyone knows faster is better even at MLS.

You gain Force Run 1... no damage reduction and little force cost, good for keeping up with your kiters with the /follow command, and catching up if you get rooted.

You gain Force Suppression... a -root- angers a kiting BH. This gives you the chance to hack at him in one place and get a Power Hit or two in, then KD at the end of the root and go for broke.


When I weighed the pros and cons, I went with Enhancer 2000. Give it a shot... living without channel isn't as scary as it seems.







/agree /agree /agree


this is my template also and i'm loving it i do miss channel but as some have said i never really use it when in the middle of a fight with a bh anyway, i try to root them then run a damage macro which can then shoot straight into a state macro ....then wash and repeat if needed seems to workf for me however as many peeps have said i am still learning 'every day is a school day on swg as a jedi '




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Hulke
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:48 am
#24

I will be the MLS/MDEF Healer 3000, Enh 2000 or 0002 when Im done. My question is do you think I can get away with this if my saber stats are?


570 max dmg

2.2 mod spd

22 FC

108 SAC
VulcanLionheart
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:27 pm
#25


My saber now playable i think.Now I began to hunt krayts with my guildies to find new pearls and finish my template in 2 days.Thnx again for your advices.Btw ı dont have a respec token and will stay as I am.Maybe I can change that xxx2 enhance with 2xxx one.But that channel thing is important also.

Message Edited by VulcanLionheart on 09-28-2005 03:19 PM



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Swg-Addict
Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:37 am
#26

hmmm......tough, mostly cuz of two things:

Damage and SAC.

Same thing, damage is not THAT high (you must rely on armorbreak which is a pita if you face a 75% sliced AB armor dude) and SAC eats your pool the more you need to hit BECAUSE the damage isnt that high.

It would be AWESOME if you could get 1-2 better perls, raise the damage up to 620ish and lower the SAC to 100.

That way you would not be "forced" to spam hits contantly (bye bye action bar) to do some damage.

Like some1 said in another posting, this game is "drainwar" these days. You simply dont head out to actually "damage" somebody, its "drainwar". So make sure your "instrument" is giving you the chance to stand up a bit and fighting on your terms, not on your foe's term.



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