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Its not "Knight Vs Master" damn roleplayers

The "Jedi Knight" is a Master Defender.

The "Jedi Master" is a Master Enhancer, Dark Council Member.

Master defenders were tough and any Good master defender good beat any DARK JEDI ENHANCER no matter what rank he is, the only way the majority of DARK JEDI ENHANCERS Beat Master defenders were from just Forcerunning around and /draining the Defender.

Yet again, DARK JEDI COUNCIL MEMBERS at rank 10 only had 69% forcearmor with bad enhacner and healing mods, he is in an enclosed spot. Defender > DARK JEDI ENHANCER on rooptops etc.

Now the same thing isn't said for LIGHT JEDI COUNCIL MEMBERS who had 78% forcearmor with very good enhancer mods and healing mods, in a enclosed spot , a LIGHT JEDI COUNCIL MEMBER should be able to tank and kill atleast 3 DARK JEDI ENHANCERS (no matter what rank) and would be able to just stay there tanking/channeling until the defender ran out of force.

This is why many times it only took the Jedi Chancellor, and 3 or 4 of us Jedi COuncil members too kill 10-20 Dark Jedi Council memebers and other ranked Dark knights with the FOTM powers lines + Forcearmor2.

Why do i even bother explaining these things lol>

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ImperialObserver101 wrote:
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Its not "Knight Vs Master" damn roleplayers

The "Jedi Knight" is a Master Defender.

The "Jedi Master" is a Master Enhancer, Dark Council Member.

Master defenders were tough and any Good master defender good beat any DARK JEDI ENHANCER no matter what rank he is, the only way the majority of DARK JEDI ENHANCERS Beat Master defenders were from just Forcerunning around and /draining the Defender.

Yet again, DARK JEDI COUNCIL MEMBERS at rank 10 only had 69% forcearmor with bad enhacner and healing mods, he is in an enclosed spot. Defender > DARK JEDI ENHANCER on rooptops etc.

Now the same thing isn't said for LIGHT JEDI COUNCIL MEMBERS who had 78% forcearmor with very good enhancer mods and healing mods, in a enclosed spot , a LIGHT JEDI COUNCIL MEMBER should be able to tank and kill atleast 3 DARK JEDI ENHANCERS (no matter what rank) and would be able to just stay there tanking/channeling until the defender ran out of force.

This is why many times it only took the Jedi Chancellor, and 3 or 4 of us Jedi COuncil members too kill 10-20 Dark Jedi Council memebers and other ranked Dark knights with the FOTM powers lines + Forcearmor2.

Why do i even bother explaining these things lol>

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??? were you even a jedi preCU?? I was a master healer master saber and I beat the defender in that video

and about that roleplay coment whish I by far am not do I realy have to type jedi in front of knight for you to know I was talking about a jedi?

Yep heal states then stand. Dervish delivers another dizzy right away and then kd away. Simply stated 9/10 fights were won by the first guy to get a dizzy kd to stick. Yes there was a work around, but there are work arounds today as well. And 0004 Healing wasn't "Worth something" it was "required". Healer needs work, but I much prefer the versatility of the post CU template system.

I said "YOUR" saber sux, not mine, meaning some people were too lazy to kill for their own pearls even when they were there for the taking.. I had about 100 pearls by Dec of '03.

yes you could heal all three bars but the force cost was higher than healing 1 bar, FC was especially a concern if you were a ranked dark Jedi with Mpowers.

Stop using a macro and pay attention to what specials you use. You don't know how to overide your commands?

You and the other guy are still in the same boat.

Lag? No problems pre vs post CU.

Lag? No problems pre vs post CU.

Sure you know, but there wasn't always a 30s timer on being able to kd again.

Sure you know, but there weren't the same counters pre cu as roots and snares didn't exist.

I never watch peoples videos because they can be made to show whatever outcome is desired.

Could have been an easy fix, hasn't been done yet.



Buku
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Message Edited by BukuJohnson on 09-29-2005 07:19 AM

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Srider_Killarney wrote:

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ImperialObserver101 wrote:
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Its not "Knight Vs Master" damn roleplayers

The "Jedi Knight" is a Master Defender.

The "Jedi Master" is a Master Enhancer, Dark Council Member.

Master defenders were tough and any Good master defender good beat any DARK JEDI ENHANCER no matter what rank he is, the only way the majority of DARK JEDI ENHANCERS Beat Master defenders were from just Forcerunning around and /draining the Defender.

Yet again, DARK JEDI COUNCIL MEMBERS at rank 10 only had 69% forcearmor with bad enhacner and healing mods, he is in an enclosed spot. Defender > DARK JEDI ENHANCER on rooptops etc.

Now the same thing isn't said for LIGHT JEDI COUNCIL MEMBERS who had 78% forcearmor with very good enhancer mods and healing mods, in a enclosed spot , a LIGHT JEDI COUNCIL MEMBER should be able to tank and kill atleast 3 DARK JEDI ENHANCERS (no matter what rank) and would be able to just stay there tanking/channeling until the defender ran out of force.

This is why many times it only took the Jedi Chancellor, and 3 or 4 of us Jedi COuncil members too kill 10-20 Dark Jedi Council memebers and other ranked Dark knights with the FOTM powers lines + Forcearmor2.

Why do i even bother explaining these things lol>

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??? were you even a jedi preCU?? I was a master healer master saber and I beat the defender in that video

and about that roleplay coment whish I by far am not do I realy have to type jedi in front of knight for you to know I was talking about a jedi?

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Rank 10 jedi council member pre CU, MLS/mehancer/4004 heals. Never lost too any defenders, or dark jedi enhancers or the overlord in 1v1's. Only person i couldn't beat was other council members who could be bothered fighting for 2hours, rank 10 v rank 10 or chancellor duels are ,pound pound pound then drain drain drain drain drain pound pound pound drain drain drain drain, only way too beat a rank 10 or 11 light jedi.

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mauvros wrote:

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Srider_Killarney wrote:

Reasons you might lose a jedi duel in the CU

"you can not knockdown recovery knocked down"

your heal healed someone else ( fixed by macro's but now you have heal up there twice can you get some more bottons I am out?)

"you can not heal while in combat"

" you can not heal while moving"

your saber sucks cuz primiums are no more

you ran out of health

you ran out of action

you ran out of mind

your default botton over road your heal

you can't tell what action you are performing next because you don't have a combat window

you can't eat your food, it wont let you eat that piece you have to pull out a different one

the server is lagging, your target is to far away even though you are standing on him

the server is laggy

reasons you might lose a jedi duel in the preCU

ran out of force

reasons you might have ran out of force

not enough foods or the right foods

not a double mastery

the good enough pearls YET ( this one is an easy fix)

you need practice

jedi duels were far more fun preCU

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"Your target has no damage of that type to heal"
Can also get you killed by a BH. Marco with the /forceheal self fixes though.

Sad that we must add macros to our hotbars to compensate for SOE's bugs.

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the additions to jedi could have been done with the old system, and if you had dizzy kd problems I feel bad for you. I had none
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If I stuck the Dizzy/KD first then it wasn't too bad. It is very simple though, MHealer heals states and HAM in one click, Defender has state defenses dizzy sticks less often, Enhancer has state defenses dizzy sticks less often, Powers...?

I do not miss the spider enhanced mind poison stacking, the 100m CM tosses, the defense stackers I couldn't hit with Powers, the 90% Lightning resist comp, the ADK LS resistant PSG, the bugged LS resistant Mabari armor, the artificial ranking of Jedi, or insane legendary weapons one bit.

Your OP speaks of post vs pre CU Jedi duels. Obviously your views are based on your perspective, and my views are based on my perspective. If I had gone with one of the Pre CU FOTM builds instead of Mpowers, and or ranked up the FRS I am sure I would have a different perspective on which version of the game I prefer. In any event all I can say is that while Powers is still very weak vs other Jedi, it is a lot more viable post CU than it was pre and that makes the game more enjoyable for me.


Buku
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I was a dark enhancer pre cu. I had over 50 jedi duels.... I lost ONE and that was to a light healer (due to very little fc for total heal) Defenders were cake, enhancer was basically king. I take it you either didn't have a jedi, or didn't pvp with a jedi pre cu.

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Goarev wrote:
I was a dark enhancer pre cu. I had over 50 jedi duels.... I lost ONE and that was to a light healer (due to very little fc for total heal) Defenders were cake, enhancer was basically king. I take it you either didn't have a jedi, or didn't pvp with a jedi pre cu.

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I take it you didn't have a full council of light jedi who knew how too pvp and the chancellor being the best pvper before the FC and after them.

Around 30ish jedi after rank 8 on light frs, rank 9's,10's and 11 was full lol , All mls/mehancers/4004 with the exception of 3 master healers.

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ImperialObserver101 wrote:

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Goarev wrote:
I was a dark enhancer pre cu. I had over 50 jedi duels.... I lost ONE and that was to a light healer (due to very little fc for total heal) Defenders were cake, enhancer was basically king. I take it you either didn't have a jedi, or didn't pvp with a jedi pre cu.

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I take it you didn't have a full council of light jedi who knew how too pvp and the chancellor being the best pvper before the FC and after them.

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Nah the highest on our server was a dark jedi templar. I was 2k from guardian so the 4th or 5th highest on the server.... But yeah the ranks on our server didn't get up very high....

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Goarev wrote:

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ImperialObserver101 wrote:

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Goarev wrote:
I was a dark enhancer pre cu. I had over 50 jedi duels.... I lost ONE and that was to a light healer (due to very little fc for total heal) Defenders were cake, enhancer was basically king. I take it you either didn't have a jedi, or didn't pvp with a jedi pre cu.

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I take it you didn't have a full council of light jedi who knew how too pvp and the chancellor being the best pvper before the FC and after them.

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Nah the highest on our server was a dark jedi templar. I was 2k from guardian so the 4th or 5th highest on the server.... But yeah the ranks on our server didn't get up very high....

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ah no organized fightclubs then when it was deemed legal eh?

Wu sanchez had just made rank 7 consular before the lowca server FC started, he def earned chancellor spot and didnt die once after it lol.

i like the cu though that cant kd recovery while kd'd can be very very annoying